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To ask what age you believe it’s appropriate to drink

144 replies

MaryIlover · 31/10/2022 09:09

I’ve seen quite a few threads on here lately in which it seems the prevailing view is that any drinking under the age of 18 is bad and should not be permitted or facilitated by parents. To be honest I don’t really find this marries up with my own experience. Personally I think it’s the norm or at least quite common to start having parties drinking with your friends at about year 10/11 so that would be around 14-16 and that feels about right. My worry with making my DC wait until 18 is that firstly it would cause resentment if they were being left out of all their friends and secondly by 18 most of her friends would be going out clubbing and much more used or alcohol and therefore DC would end up placing themselves in far more risky situations rather than being thrown in at the deep end. Personally I think 15/16 is about the right age (I was about 15 myself) but to condemn all ‘underage drinking’ just seems really out of touch and unrealistic. Aibu?

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WorrieaboutFIL · 31/10/2022 16:36

I don't know why everyone is recommending wine... It blows my head off... And I'm 42. Maybe a small glass is ok.

theonlygirl · 31/10/2022 16:52

NashvilleQueen · 31/10/2022 14:54

I try to mitigate the risk rather than ban. So say to my 15 yr old:

  • no competitive drinking (eg downing drinks to order or drinking stupid spirits-based cocktails with unknown quantities of alcohol). I say quite clearly that people can die in this way and so it's not an unreasonable ask.
  • try to only have one drink an hour (eg one can/bottle of cider) if you're there for the evening
  • take a soft drink option from time to time and especially if you're feeling dizzy, sick or sleepy
  • don't be the person everyone is talking about afterwards as the most pissed/embarrassing one at the party.

Some great advise on this thread. DS1 is 15 / year 11. Has been allowed a glass of something fizzy at Xmas but he's not started going to parties yet where I know there is alcohol. I don't really want him to have any alcohol at this age but he's going to at some point I assume. What I really don't want is him turning 18 and maybe going to uni and going absolutely nuts cos he's never experienced it or how it makes you feel, so I almost feel as though I have to start offering it to him.

Cw112 · 31/10/2022 17:00

I think 16 is okay to start at home and then build it up so they can learn about tolerance and keeping yourself safe gradually. I'd have gone out with friends from 16/17 and tbh stopped drinking at that age myself because my friends were all hammered and I ended up being the one making sure they all got home safe/ weren't being sick on themselves/ taken advantage of and I didn't feel like they'd have my back if I was drunk. It felt easier to say I just didn't drink than deal with the pressure to get really drunk. So I didn't start again until I was in uni and there was less pressure. I think it really depends on the kid, how sensible they are and what their friendship group is like?

Applesandcarrots · 31/10/2022 17:24

We used to get small beer at home with lunches on special occasions from I think 13-14.
Outside drinking was quite normal from 16? Not with parents though😁
We got tastes when young like few sips of this and that to large entertainment of adults present when we pulled faces.
Not grew up in UK

Applesandcarrots · 31/10/2022 17:26

NashvilleQueen · 31/10/2022 14:54

I try to mitigate the risk rather than ban. So say to my 15 yr old:

  • no competitive drinking (eg downing drinks to order or drinking stupid spirits-based cocktails with unknown quantities of alcohol). I say quite clearly that people can die in this way and so it's not an unreasonable ask.
  • try to only have one drink an hour (eg one can/bottle of cider) if you're there for the evening
  • take a soft drink option from time to time and especially if you're feeling dizzy, sick or sleepy
  • don't be the person everyone is talking about afterwards as the most pissed/embarrassing one at the party.

And eat! That's one thing which really helps. Eat.
Lots of girls used to not eat before drinking and it doesn't end well.
Eat before and during if you can.
Water

DelilahBucket · 31/10/2022 17:33

I think it totally depends on the child. I was 13 when I was allowed a weak snowball at Christmas (I'd had little sips before then), 14 when I was allowed a barcardi breezer at Christmas or family parties, 15 I was allowed alcohol at parties but again it was alcopops and by 15 1/2 I was out clubbing (unknown to my mum), drinking and smoking (never touched drugs). That said, I never got so drunk I had no recollection and I am still like that now.
I adopt a similar attitude with DS now he is nearly 15, although up until now he has only tried little sips. He has alcohol free lager which he has on a Saturday night when DH has some beers and I have wine, or we took him out for birthday cocktails for his 14th and he had a cocktail. The none alcoholic options are far greater now and I think he will sway towards those.

Teatotally · 31/10/2022 20:47

SuTissue · 31/10/2022 15:44

My sil and her husband have teenage boys and lately they are full of all this stuff about letting them get used to drinking at home so they learn to drink responsibly etc.
SIL had strict parents who certainly didn’t allow their kid to drink alcohol as teenagers so her being so sure of herself that her approach is the right one isn’t based on experience.
I don’t comment when she’s giving her speeches about it and telling us about parties she’s thrown where she’s serving alcohol to her ds and his friends (they’re 15/16 and she also lets her 12 yo drink a small glass of beer here and there) but my own opinion is, sometimes it works out ok, sometimes not.
My dm was relaxed about alcohol and had the same attitude as SIL. My younger sister ended up in rehab at 18 for alcoholism. I binge drank when I was younger and got into a awful, dangerous situations. It was a hard habit to break.
So, obviously it didn’t work out very well for us. My parents were separated at the time. and dad is an alcoholic though so I think if there’s any history of addiction or mh problems in the family, you should be extra careful around alcohol with teenagers for obvious reasons.
You also have to look at how much you actually drink yourself - if it’s a healthy reasonable amount then fine but if you actually drink way more units per week than recommended or binge drink, you should be very careful about what attitude/ habits you’re passing on. My sil actually drinks too much herself so that’s why I get alarm bells when I hear her pontificating about “normalising drinking” for teenagers.
I don’t think it’s right to give other peoples kids alcohol or let them drink it in your home unless the parents know and are ok with it.
It’s harder for immature bodies to process it. It’s a depressant. Those should be other considerations.
I think most kids probably will drink anyway or at least experiment with it but personally I think the best thing is to make it as difficult as possible for them when they’re still your responsibility and to make them aware of the dangers. And not to drink very much in their presence.
I don’t think letting them drink in moderation at home necessarily means they won’t binge drink outside the home and I don’t understand the attitude that it’s completely inevitable that drinking alcohol regularly will be part of their adult lives - not everyone drinks and it’s better not to.

Really interesting SuTissue. I agree. My Sister drank from aged 14 and my parents were very lax about her going to pubs and nightclubs underage. I always hated the taste of alcohol, hence my username! However, my parents having a relaxed attitude to drinking in my sister's case did not enable her to have a healthy relationship with alcohol. She started off binge drinking then became increasingly dependent on alcohol and finally became an alcoholic, and died aged 34 from alcoholic liver disease
. As another poster has written up thread, some studies correlate drinking at an early age with more likelihood of having a difficult relationship with alcohol in later life. I find a lot of people in this country's attitude to alcohol really upsetting. On another thread, it was insinuated you are boring if you don't drink and people seem very accepting of alcohol as being a harmless substance just because it's legal. However I realise that my own experiences are colouring my views. My DD is 15 and it's difficult to know what to do for the best given that alcoholism can run in families.

marlowe5 · 31/10/2022 21:01

@Dixiechickonhols - age 13. So yes, I have sent my elder DS to parties with a few beers from age 16 - all worked fine and he seems now, at much older, to have a relatively fine attitude to drink. Quite reasonably I was not expecting parents to be presenting free-flow unlimited spirits to young teenagers to the point of them being extremely unwell (not mine being ill but others'.) Not sure what @PeachPies means by suggesting that I 'should have got in first', but nah, I wouldn't be plying my own 13 year old with unlimited neat spirits and wouldn't have expected other parents to do so either.

Whataplanker · 31/10/2022 21:13

Teenagers don't seem as focused on alcohol as they were when I was younger. It is more about the weed now from what I can see (and smell!)

lookoutkid · 31/10/2022 21:15

I’ll twerk on a table at 3 in the afternoon stone cold sober* and hope my kids are the same*

😂 #mumgoals

Dixiechickonhols · 31/10/2022 21:42

marlowe5 · 31/10/2022 21:01

@Dixiechickonhols - age 13. So yes, I have sent my elder DS to parties with a few beers from age 16 - all worked fine and he seems now, at much older, to have a relatively fine attitude to drink. Quite reasonably I was not expecting parents to be presenting free-flow unlimited spirits to young teenagers to the point of them being extremely unwell (not mine being ill but others'.) Not sure what @PeachPies means by suggesting that I 'should have got in first', but nah, I wouldn't be plying my own 13 year old with unlimited neat spirits and wouldn't have expected other parents to do so either.

13 is too young and not normal at all in our area. I wouldn’t be happy with that.

Darbs76 · 01/11/2022 08:16

My DD is 14 and I’d be quite annoyed if a parent gave her alcohol at a party. She’s had a sip of fizzy wine at her uncles wedding and hated it. I was drinking before 14 and although I don’t drink at all now for health reasons, my friends I was drinking with are all heavy drinkers in adult life. One her whole life revolves around drink and I’d say she’s a functioning alcoholic. So I’m glad this generation doesn’t seem to be following in our footsteps

bloodyplanes · 01/11/2022 10:17

My kids have all been allowed a small drink at Christmas or with a special meal since around 13-14. They were allowed to drink with friends ( supervised obviously) at around 15-16. All are now adults and 3 of the four dont drink at all and the one that does only drinks when out with friends.

Dingdong90 · 02/11/2022 19:12

There is actually no lower age limit for alcohol consumption in your own home. Personally, I was allowed to have a small drink at family parties from 12/13 and I let my dd age 12 do the same, usually a small bottle of wkd or some fruit cider mixed down with lemonade. Really don't see an issue with it behind closed doors , it stopped me going crazy on the street like some of my friends at the age of 14/15 because i was allowed to sit with family and have a drink with them instead

Dingdong90 · 02/11/2022 19:12

There is actually no lower age limit for alcohol consumption in your own home. Personally, I was allowed to have a small drink at family parties from 12/13 and I let my dd age 12 do the same, usually a small bottle of wkd or some fruit cider mixed down with lemonade. Really don't see an issue with it behind closed doors , it stopped me going crazy on the street like some of my friends at the age of 14/15 because i was allowed to sit with family and have a drink with them instead

RobBeckettsUnderpants · 02/11/2022 19:24

I let DS have a can of cider last Christmas with the family meal. He was 14.5. He's had the odd cider or beer at special occasions since then but it's always supervised and with family. He's still not really acquired the taste for it so prefers the sweeter fruit ciders for now.

The rest of my family are fine with it - my parents let me and my DSis have mixed drinks and alcopops from around 13/14 in the same supervised way, but of course we both started drinking at parties from about 16 and both had THE night where we went completely OTT and blacked out at 18 but neither of us ever did it again and it was a learning experience. I will expect the same with DS in a few years, but feel that's a mistake most of us make at least once when we're young and finding out what our personal limits are.

All I can do is prepare him and teach him to be as safe and responsible as he can be. He is autistic so doesn't like feeling out of control and if he can get an idea of what his limit is in a safe environment with me so much the better!

Bloopsie · 02/11/2022 19:28

Why are people encouraging their children to drink by normalizing it, are there not enough people with liver failures around? Should you not trach your children there are better ways to spend money?My parents never gave me any alcohol,i never have drank any alcohol (beside whats in cough syrup and as rarely as possible as it makes my stomach turn)and I am 35,i dont have any alcohol in the house and when i met my husband banned him drinking too he has been been making wiser decisions for over a decade.

Thighdentitycrisis · 02/11/2022 19:34

If they asked , around 15/16 I allowed a light drink with a meal in a pub or on holiday, so quite rarely. He was used to seeing me drink with a meal and wanted to see what it felt like. Once at 6th form, Summer baby so just turned 16, there were parties and I gave warnings not to drink spirits which I think he followed being a fairly careful child.

TowerRaven7 · 02/11/2022 19:45

I’m in the States where it’s age 21 now. When I was 18 though it was legal, then right after I turned 18 they changed it to 19 though I was grandfathered in. We have one ds who started university at 18 so I had no illusions of him not drinking there. We tried not to make it a big deal, and just told him if he was going to drink, then drink responsibly. He’s had the odd sip of my wine, doesn’t like beer and thinks hard liquor is ghastly. I don’t discourage or encourage really. I do remind him we have alcoholism on both sides of the family.

GothMilk · 02/11/2022 19:50

I was raised by DF, my sister by DM.

I was allowed the occasional drink from the age of 12 - but in an ad hoc basis rather than Christmas and birthdays etc.

my sister was barred until 18.

One of us is a major party girl/borderline alcoholic and one is a very occasional drinker.

I'll let you work out which is which.

flingingmelon · 02/11/2022 19:59

14 - odd glass with a nice dinner

Wheredoallthepensgo · 02/11/2022 20:29

Some people (like in my family) just don't really drink. Drinkers always seem to think everyone else drinks too, but statistically the number of non-drinkers is increasing.

DH and I don't drink and teen DC has shown no interest so far at all. Their friend ship group are all into sports and health, and get up early on weekends to go to races and competitions. The idea that most or all teens are out partying and drinking every weekend just isn't true. They are way smarter and healthier than I was at that age Grin

Scurryfunge12 · 02/11/2022 20:32

Definitely not 10/11. More like 15/16 would be acceptable.

Wheredoallthepensgo · 02/11/2022 20:32

I keep saying ‘go on have a shandy’ to a disinterested 13 year old??? Why??

Mad. Try reading up about what alcohol does to the developing brains and liver of kids at 13/14. He's got lots of time yet!!

Lcb123 · 02/11/2022 20:33

My mum used to let me and friends have a few drinks at home past age 16, as she said she’d prefer to know we were safe than drinking in a park / beach (I mean, we did that to). I’d do the same for my kids, better that moderate alcohol drinking introduced at home than it being some forbidden fruit

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