To think that something has to be done about the immigration crisis?

[JudesBiggestFan]

But I don't know what? More than 900 people landed in Dover today, as I discovered when reading about the terrible petrol bomb attack on a detention centre. Detention centres overcrowded, more than 7 million pounds a day being spent on hotel rooms for illegal immigrants, horrendously slow processing of applications...people drowning in the channel and local people feeling angry and frustrated because of the strain on services. Not to mention the mental health toll on people living their lives in limbo! So what is the answer? Because I just don't know anymore but it feels like the system has completely broken down.

How do you suggest we do that? Sounds a bit sinister.

Shall we start with you?

More stats

At the end of June 2022, there were 99,419 cases (relating to 122,213 people) awaiting an initial decision, almost 2.5 times more than the number of applications awaiting an initial decision at the end of 2019 (40,032, relating to 51,228 people). The number of cases awaiting an initial decision has increased in the last 10 years, and risen more rapidly since 2018 when there were 27,256 cases awaiting an initial decision at the end of that year. The number of initial decisions made in the year ending June 2022 fell from 2019 (down 29%, to 14,706), while asylum applications increased (up 77%, to 63,089 applications). This means more cases entered the asylum system than left it, resulting in an increase in cases awaiting an initial decision

Who is 'we' ?

I've reported this thread.

It is fascist, racist and designed to engender hatred to people of other races .

Mumsnet where is your 'prevent' strategy?
This thread fosters hatred towards others and whoever started it needs to be stopped. It's appalling.

more than 7 million pounds a day being spent on hotel rooms for illegal immigrants,

Nothing is spent on hotel rooms for illegal immigrants. The clue's in the word "illegal". Illegal immigrants are in detention centres prior to deportation.

I took it to mean declining birth rate which I think we’re heading for

That wasn't hostile, I was just asking a question.

You've stated the world's population needs cut down drastically, so are you volunteering to be one of the culled or one of the cullers?

Grinding poverty caused by corrupt regimes, aided by western governments. That’s why they get in a boat.

As an outside observer, sounds like what you lack is a sensible system of regional burden sharing. Because overall refugee numbers in the UK sure as hell aren't high compared to other countries.

I have no idea, but the rising population is not sustainable for Planet Earth. Loads of people say this but as usual on here, I say it and everyone is quick to jump down my throat for a completely normal comment

And more stats - especially when it comes to Albania

Grant rates vary considerably by nationality as the protection needs of specific groups or individuals differ, usually depending on the situation in their home country. Of nationalities that commonly claim asylum in the UK, Afghans, Eritreans and Syrians typically have very high grant rates at initial decision (97%, 97% and 98% respectively), while nationals of India, for example, have low grant rates (4%; see Figure 3). As noted, a significant proportion of the people applying for asylum in the UK at present are from nationalities who are also seeing high grant rates

Within a nationality, grant rate can vary. For example, for Albanians the overall grant rate in the year ending June 2022 was 53%, but for Albanian adult men the grant rate was 14% and for Albanian women and children it was 90%

It’s attitude like yours that fosters resentment. Telling people to shut up just because you don’t agree is why we end up with issues like Brexit. The irony is astounding.

More than 60,000 have arrived illegally by boat since January 2018 and almost all claim asylum.
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Here are some takeaways:
We now have the highest number of asylum claims in 20 years
The cost of asylum operations to taxpayers is now £2.1 billion per year and has nearly doubled in just one year (£5 million per day is being spent to house claimants in hotels).
The backlog of claims has now surpassed 100,000 – with 40,000 people waiting a year or more for their claim to be initially considered
The number of claimants receiving asylum handouts is now an astounding 116,000 (up from 33,000 in 2014).
This year sees the highest asylum claims since 2002, and the fifth highest number ever (the four years between 1999 and 2002 saw higher numbers, with the peak in 2002, of 103,081 applications).

I rather suspect most of the 220 'children' that have vanished from the system are '16' year olds.

@perseverence it's not fascist or racist or inciting hate to say we have a problem with illegal immigration at the hands of criminal gangs - and that having thousands of traumatised children with little or no English plus thousands of young single men arriving here are not good things.

The government is desperately trying to encourage more immigration to fill the many jobs going begging in industries such as farming and hospitality.

The logical answer would be to offer safe passage for asylum seekers accompanied by an efficient process for checking asylum claims. Whilst the claims are being checked, asylum seekers should be allowed to work. Any found not to be genuine should be deported back to their own countries. We could save ourselves a fortune in cancelling the Rwanda nonsense. Win-win.

Just ignore that poster, they are just attention seeking - they apparently reported my first post for racism which is bizarre as it has no mention of race in it whatsoever:

Never mind immigration, the world's population needs to be cut down considerably.

Legal immigration for people with skills we need? Brilliant. Encourage it

We are desperately short of workers in hospitality, retail, care & farming.

Seems there might be a win win there if only we could put aside our pickiness.

The cost of asylum operations to taxpayers is now £2.1 billion per year and has nearly doubled in just one year (£5 million per day is being spent to house claimants in hotels

Is this just asylum or is it also refugees as well?

This might be an eye opening read for you re Albania, and one that probably won’t appear in the Daily Mail. (Not suggesting you’re a reader though!) The problem is with people trafficking and crime gangs, not war.

“The number of unaccompanied Albanian minors arriving in Kent on small boats across the Channel is “unprecedented” and represents a “new problem” for Kent County Council (KCC), local authority leaders say amid concerns these young people are being targeted by people traffickers.”
www.cypnow.co.uk/news/article/concerns-over-trafficking-of-lone-albanian-children-arriving-in-kent

And France is also not a war zone, but I’m unsure how people can fail to understand that yes, it’s safe for holidaymakers and the average French person, and not at all safe for asylum seekers. Both those things can be true at the same time. If the French authorities don’t house them, and they can’t work, they’re homeless with no way to buy food. The camps they build are often targeted by far right gangs or ordered to close by the police. Doesn’t sound like conditions you can describe as safe.

Remember the photos of the group of smirking "children" who came off the boats and put under the care of social services? None of them looked under about 30!!

So offer safe passage to traumatised children to minimise their trauma. And given the major problem we have with worker shortage in many industries, let's welcome those young single men and get them into work.

The burden is felt by working class communities. They are the ones who are affected when services get cut because there's not enough to go around anymore and strain in the system.

The wealthy & middle classes see this as an easy way to #bekind knowing that they get private education, housing, and medical without needing the council involved...

@FrownedUpon

Of course that happened 🙄

Can you provide a news report, from a reputable source that can verify the absolute load of scaremongering bollocks you've shared with us today?

Oh you can't? What a surprise....

The ‘problem’ will be allowed to get to so overwhelming that the government will call an amnesty of some such scheme without calling it an amnesty. And all those in hotels, detention centers and in the black economy will be given resident status to reset the clock. Hey presto! Millions of new workers, as if by magic.