To think that something has to be done about the immigration crisis?

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But I don't know what? More than 900 people landed in Dover today, as I discovered when reading about the terrible petrol bomb attack on a detention centre. Detention centres overcrowded, more than 7 million pounds a day being spent on hotel rooms for illegal immigrants, horrendously slow processing of applications...people drowning in the channel and local people feeling angry and frustrated because of the strain on services. Not to mention the mental health toll on people living their lives in limbo! So what is the answer? Because I just don't know anymore but it feels like the system has completely broken down.

We can't take this many asylum seekers. Send them back to France. Turn the small boats back when in international waters. Kent's f*cked right now.

Legal immigration for people with skills we need? Brilliant. Encourage it.

IMO just being honest is the first step to sorting this mess out.

Things the Tory government won't say out loud - even though they all know it:
-Brexit has made it harder, due to not working with Europe on this issue
-Cuts the Tories made have impacted a LOT - borders, police, passporting/visas etc.
-Immigration leads to economic growth
-Investing in humane, fast systems is cheaper than spending to be cruel

I agree with you and any way of tackling it has to take this into account.

No. Why, was your post supposed to be?

End austerity and redirect funding back into the public services that need it. They recently passed some policy notions which includes investing in local government and the NHS. Surely you don’t have to know much about the Labour Party to know they are anti austerity, and surely it also does not take much to figure out that austerity leads to worse public services…

Of course we can

we actually take a lot less than most other western countries

Legally we cannot turn them back

Big percentage of those coming over the channel now are Albanians. Mostly young men. Albania is not a War zone. Given that we have 1000s of people waiting years for a home, where do you all suggest they are housed?

Spend more. Of course, why didn’t anyone else think of that.

Not at all, that's why I was surprised at your hostile reply.

There are children asylum seekers/refugees arriving into schools every week. I can't comment on how they arrived in the country as I don't know. But they speak little English, no information about previous schooling or any trauma they've experienced, no gradual integration into society or the british school system. Just dumped straight into a GCSE class with little or no notice to the class teacher. And some of these 15 year old male asylum seekers look more like 20 years old. But we can't say anything, we just have to get on with our job when teachers and budgets are already stretched.

@pinkfrogs I don't know about a labour government, very little faith in them all if I'm honest but on balance, immigration may improve slightly with them....but I don't see the big changes that are required, being anywhere near forthcoming

… and the governments around the world locked down to prevent the population from being cut down considerably.

Plus, you only need to look at history to realise that a pandemic does not need to be engineered in a lab for the purposes of culling the human population.

The Ultimate Bioterrorist: Mother Nature!

“Abstract: The greatest threat we face from biological agents of death today is not from humans – it is from nature itself. A bioterrorist attack that could kill hundreds, possibly thousands, of Americans is a possibility, but one with low probability. A pandemic caused by a naturally occurring biological pathogen that could kill tens of thousands, possibly millions, of Americans is an absolute certainty. Natural pandemics are a regularly occurring phenomenon throughout history. The tens of billions spent on bioterrorism defense have modestly improved our ability to resist a natural pandemic, but only modestly. This chapter examines the history of natural pandemics in America, and decribes what must be done if we are to avoid the tragedy of the 1918 flu pandemic.”

(And this was published in 2008)

We need to reform the home office legal system. Albania is not a war zone. Neither is France.

Just to reiterate, I would've stayed in the EU given the choice and I'm pro immigration.

Didn't you know that the citizens of Calais opened a rubber dinghy factory on 24th June 2016.

Was it this one? Absolutely shocking that the Home Office has lost over 220 children. It’s not even lawful to put children in a hotel/hostel with adults, yet they’ve been doing it for over a year.

As to where they’ve gone - exploited, trafficked, who knows. It’s horrific.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/oct/22/uk-asylum-seekers-home-office-accused-of-catastrophic-child-protection-failure?CMP=share_btn_tw

Well yes, unfortunately the NHS can’t grow magic money trees and services don’t run for free believe it or not.

Cuts to services can be cheaper in the short term but cost more in the long term. Sorting out a proper asylum process would be expensive at first, but they’d save money on hotels in the long term.

Theres a direct link between poverty and obesity, sort out poverty and you will save money from the NHS.

etc etc

End all wars everywhere
Make sure everyone as same economuc opportunities everywhere
End all persecution of lgb or ethnic groups everywhere etc
Make safe and legal routes

You know you don’t need to flee from a war zone to claim asylum?

Also I’m not sure many French are making their way across the channel in small boats

Why haven’t you mentioned that he was 16 years old?

Government stats here

www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-statistics-year-ending-june-2022/how-many-people-do-we-grant-asylum-or-protection-to

This graphic shows the success of applications at initial application. I guess there is one for appeals

More information on how the UK compares to other countries in Europe

In the year ending March 2022, Germany received the highest number of asylum applicants (164,925) in the EU+, followed by France (112,860). When compared with the EU+ for the year ending March 2022, the UK received the 4th largest number of applicants (66,838 – including both main applicants and dependants). This equates to 9% of the total asylum applicants across the EU+ and UK combined over that period, but the 18th largest intake when measured per head of population.

There are also many countries who have millions of refugees in camps.

www.unhcr.org/refugee-statistics/

Türkiye hosts the largest number of refugees, with 3.7 million people. Colombia is second with more than 2.5 million, including other people in need of international protection.

WTF are you talking about, how am I being fascist or racist??

It is PLAIN LOGIC that the world population needs to reduce. I did not say anything remotely like "I think people from XXX continent need to be culled immediately".

I don't believe that anyone gets into an overcrowded and dangerous inflatable, risking their lives to get here without having a very good reason.

If they are economic migrants let's employ them. We've got the jobs. Then they'll start paying taxes and putting back into our system. Rebuilding our economy.

What is criminal is not the migrant but the incredibly slow processing that greets them.

European governments need to be more honest how about they are using these convenient situation to deal with the de-population crisis. But that would be politically disastrous. Hence dressed up as a humanitarian stance. It also diverts attention from the tax and spend policies where an ever smaller group of people is paying more and more to prop the ponzu scheme.

The bottom line is we need immigration. Of both low skilled and high skilled workers. The low skilled are housed in hotels without being able to work, adding to the productivity problem. And the high skilled don’t want to come here anymore because of the low wages caused by low productivity. AKA a vicious cycle.

Some quick facts:

1. The number of boat arrivals since 1 January 2018 has now passed 50,000 and crossings are now double what they were compared with last year (which was an all-time record).

1. Seven in 10 are men between the ages of 18 and 39

1. 98% have no passport when processed

1. One in six boat crossers already claimed asylum elsewhere

In March 2021, the Home Office revealed this eye-opening fact (relating to those who came in small boats during 2019) Thousands of those crossing on boats are failed asylum claimants who have already tried their luck and been rejected in other European countries, such as France, Germany, Greece, Denmark and Switzerland (see summary). Some would have us forget this important context and receive everyone coming as a fresh claimant. This is patently absurd.5. Zero are directly coming from place of persecution

The Refugee Convention is only meant to protect those coming directly from the place of persecution. Clearly those crossing from France (a safe and civilised country with a well-functioning asylum system) are not doing so.