To think that something has to be done about the immigration crisis?

[JudesBiggestFan]

But I don't know what? More than 900 people landed in Dover today, as I discovered when reading about the terrible petrol bomb attack on a detention centre. Detention centres overcrowded, more than 7 million pounds a day being spent on hotel rooms for illegal immigrants, horrendously slow processing of applications...people drowning in the channel and local people feeling angry and frustrated because of the strain on services. Not to mention the mental health toll on people living their lives in limbo! So what is the answer? Because I just don't know anymore but it feels like the system has completely broken down.

And that's why Jeremy Corbyn is the man to run government...

You have to be in the UK to seek asylum.
You cannot legally travel to the UK with an Iranian passport, or Afghan passport or Syrian passport .
And why do they come here?
Why did millions of Brits go to Australia? Why did millions of Brits go to America? Or South Africa? Answer that one and you have your answer.

you might want to fact check your intel...👀

I suppose the difference is millions of Brits didn't destroy their documents on entry and pretend to be a different age or from a different country.

I agree this is an issue that needs to be discussed. Unfortunately this thread is a great example of some of the issues with that discussion.

1. theres a group of people who simply say “send them all back” and don’t have any interest in listening to anyone else
2. theres a group who don’t understand how it all works, don’t understand what an illegal immigrant or an asylum seeker is. Don’t understand about the lack of legal routes and some of this group don’t want to learn.
3. some genuinely do understand and want to discuss the issue. Some in this group think we have too many immigrants, some do not.
4. some shout the people in group 3 down, call them racist or bigots.

we need groups 1.2 and 4 to shut the fuck up.

there is no immigration crisis.

there is an awful government crisis trying to blow a non story up and a simple fucking solution.

give them a legal way to apply for asylum enroute Simple , currently the only way to apply is in the UK.

we are a pretty evil inward looking back water at present.

Excellent post

Again just not true 80% of those landing get asylum.

If there is no documentation to support their age, they are looked at by a specialist consultant expert in establishing age young people. It isn't a case of they say they're 15 so we accept it.

Some of the stories, from women in particular, are harrowing and some beyond imagination.

@Hawkins001

Could they be processed and as a question, would it be feasible to build a large factory or a large base and give them all work to do, sorts like a factory system, products and materials are shipped in then goods ect are made and shipped out ?
Like a concentration camp, you mean?
Yeah I think that one was already tried as part of the Final Solution in the 2nd World War 🙄

Why did they leave this country and go abroad?

Only last week a mate from Uni left the UK for America for a job, she was leaving for, and I quote, 'A better life'.

Guess what the people on the boats want?

And yet thousands upon thousands of people are risking their lives to sail from France to get to this “evil inward looking backwater” 🤔

With its free medical care, benefits and housing.

The situation with immigration is indicative of the other services in the UK, starved of funding and mismanagement over the last 12 years. NHS, passport office, hmcourts, social services, environmental health, all starved of funding and leadership, directionless. Anyone who voted for this shit show of a government must be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.

For there is some nasty shit about people on this thread.

The last person who moaned to me in real life about immigration told me this country was finished, so she was moving abroad 🤣. Right, then!

Lots of asylum seekers also arrive this way. These are desperate people who will go to any lengths to get here - doing that doesn’t make you illegal!

Dry wit is lost on here now
We need a new thread, where you can’t comment unless you’ve been here over 20 years

Ashamed? But they aren't, are they? They still believe everything they read in the Mail, they voted for Brexit and are still blaming immigration for their woes.

@FloydPepper i understand there is a system for claiming asylum from countries where lives are in danger for different reasons. I also understand that the UK government have had various successful schemes to bring people here who are seeking asylum from countries that are at war. Think Syria, Afghanistan, Ukraine etc.

However the system isn’t working as it should. Its taking too long to process claims, which means genuine asylum seekers are in limbo, plus its ridiculous to accept asylum claims from Albanians, whose European country is a holiday destination for Brits. The cost of housing asylum claimants/migrants in hotels is worrying, considering there are UK citizens who don’t have access to a room or a bed.

I rather suspect that if it was easier to apply for asylum in the UK from overseas we would still have as many people coming by boat. We have an obligation to accept people from Hong Kong and Iraq and we should accept people from Ukraine, but we don't have the infrastructure to cope with everyone who wants to settle here. It's notable that no one who seems to want immigration is willing to say how many should be accepted every year. 1000? 10000? 100000? More? I'm not anti immigration (we're hosting someone from europe) but all countries need borders. Or what's the point of being a country?

@Flubber88 subscription to Nigel Farage Youtube channel you mean?

What social rights do I have as an asylum seeker in France?
As an asylum seeker, you are entitled to benefit from social rights all your procedure long. These social rights are : health insurance (allows you to access medical care), accommodation (housing), monthly allowance (financial assistance each month), and bank account (called Livret A).

Er no. They took those countries by force and slaughtered the indigenous population. Guess we're getting off lightly huh?

There is nothing wrong with wanting illegal immigration stopped. The only people who benefit from it are the people traffickers who charge desperate people extortionate amounts of money to risk their lives in often unseaworthy boats. When they get here they often still owe the traffickers money so are taken to work on the underground market at slave wages until the debt is paid...if it ever is.
Being able to recognise that this is wrong and puts a massive strain on local government resources doesn't mean people have no sympathy for people trying to get a better life for themselves, whether they are fleeing violent regimes or are economic migrants.
However I can't see the problem being resolved so long as the French don't do much to stop the exodus at Calaise. They aren't going to do that though I don't think ...it isn't exactly in their best interests to keep the migrants themselves.

I see no E ithat modern day British migrants to Australia or the USA are slaughtering anyone. Not as a general rule anyway.

I think you've missed the point slightly a lot

Not quite, your line of reasoning.
the difference would be , they still get to come to the uk, and at the same time they can be productive to the UK economy. Then those with skills for different industries, they could then apply for roles in those industries etc