To think that something has to be done about the immigration crisis?

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But I don't know what? More than 900 people landed in Dover today, as I discovered when reading about the terrible petrol bomb attack on a detention centre. Detention centres overcrowded, more than 7 million pounds a day being spent on hotel rooms for illegal immigrants, horrendously slow processing of applications...people drowning in the channel and local people feeling angry and frustrated because of the strain on services. Not to mention the mental health toll on people living their lives in limbo! So what is the answer? Because I just don't know anymore but it feels like the system has completely broken down.

@ProFannyTea Is this the free accommodation we should begrudge?

“Braverman's decisions directly led to overcrowding and outbreaks of scabies and diptheria at an asylum seeker processing centre in the county, it's been reported.”
www.kentonline.co.uk/thanet/news/amp/home-secretarys-decisions-led-to-scabies-at-manston-276147/

Or is it this one?
“Refugees claim they have been left for days without food after hotel chain Holiday Inn provided mouldy and rotten meals that were 'inedible'”
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/refugees-go-without-meals-hotel-28321847

And all those people so keen to jump on the Liberal bandwagon with the 'they just be desperate '. Come and spend a week on one of the Kent towns these men land in and then have a say.

@ProFannyTea

Yes I think this will impact on us negatively as you suggest

Every time anyone says the world's population should be reduced, I think to myself, why don't you do something about it then and throw yourself off a cliff.

Weird. I work with asylum seekers and spend a lot of time in the company of groups of young men. I’ve been having my say quite a lot on this thread. 😁

I don't know why race got brought into this post. And my family are not entitled to those health benefits. I just think any one who enters our country should have to fill the vacant jobs. Or do volunteering of some sort. Just kick out any criminals entering the uk.

What is really sad is that the likes of Farage and the Tory government have persuaded many that their lives are disadvantaged by immigration, that it's the immigration on public services that are resulting in poor access to services and that immigration is responsible for people having shit lives. It's a clever tactic fed by a right wing press. The problem is a philosophical and political strategy of each for themselves/ every man in his castle. The destruction of public services and profiteering from essential services is the cause of our nation's fall down the economic pile and for polarisation wealth.

Immigration benefits us hugely. Our crops have been rotting in fields. There is a shortage of delivery drivers, of care workers, of people in hospitality. Yet people seeking asylum cannot work. Syrian and Afghani professionals with good spoken English are holed up in immigration centres whilst people queue in emergency departments.

you say something idiotic?

Don't you get it.

Currently YOU MUST BE IN THE UK TO CLAIM ASYLUM, so you can't get on a plane because you need a Visa to get on the plane, many of the boat people are from Afghanistan , Iran and Syria so they wont be given one. Their choice is risk a boat if they want to claim asylum.

By having a legal route and processing in France , you'd cut the boat traffic overnight to economic migrants from places like Albania.

About half the people coming on boats are granted asylum anyway.

So to answer your question, half the people coming on boats now at least would use it. It wouldn't be easier to get to the UK as those getting processed arriving now have either a genuine claim or not.

@SystemOfAFrowns www.rightsnet.org.uk/pdfs/roap-benefits.pdf

This sounds reasonable. Add to that we need to stop the daily Mail whipping up “illegal immigrant” hysteria daily while they avert their eyes from all the billions of ponds the government wastes on their cronies. Btw, I know we can’t really stop the Mail as it’s a free press 😂

Yup

They’re also never the ones who chose not to have kids either

They risk their lives in small boats because the traffickers tell a bunch of lies about how the migrants will get asylum within 3 weeks, be earning £60,000 per year, and be living a luxurious lifestyle when here. They’re obviously not truthful about how long the crossing is either. The economic migrants aren’t crossing because they think they’ll get a hotel room and a few pounds per day.

Brexit sold and then was 'Won' on the false promise of ''Taking control of borders''.

No ''Control'' has happened, and the illegal immigration crisis is worse than ever, much to the delight of the people smugglers.

Yeah did Prince William not say something like that and he has like 3 kids 🙄

You know full well those places only account for a limited amount of asylum claimants. Conveniently however, you neglect to mention all the five star hotels being requisitioned every month by the home office purely for housing asylum seekers.

This

How angry and rude are you? Weird. Why are you so raging it’s not normal.

Again. If you make it easier by offering legal routes do you think dropping the barrier of treacherous water crossing would impact numbers wanting to come here?

It’s a pretty big barrier isn’t it, having to risk life. So give an idea of how many people you’d need to accommodate if a safe and legal route was established.

Per day is fine.

Nice. And you're probably thinking to yourself that you're the one holding the moral high ground in this debate and those disagreeing with you are the nasty ones.

It still just strikes me as a very odd thing to say. If it were a thread about global warming, sure, would have made more sense in that context.

I mean I could have come in and said ‘never mind immigrants, we need to plant more trees’ but that wouldn’t have made any sense would it? So I struggle to see how you’re comment was remotely relevant which is why it has been taken out of context when discussing the movement of large groups of people.

And I consider it an extremely flippant comment under any circumstances btw.

Hahaha 😆

Oh I’m definitely holding the moral and intellectual high ground

most on here have outed themselves as absolute idiots

Well put

Some of us actually decided not to have children. Lots of children need adoption any way. Some times you think what if but other times you see and hear the screaming toddler pulling a strop , and go off glad its not you lol.

@BewareTheLibrarians so by your own admission, not the economic migrants that the majority of people on those boats will be. Mostly from Albania at the moment , that well known war zone.