To think that medical professionals should not be cutting off the breasts of teenage girls?

[WandaWomblesaurus]

twitter.com/ChoooCole/status/1586016843088601088?s=20&t=oQb2o7XLCvcTpf-dGzhBIw

"My breasts were beautiful, now they’ve been incinerated for nothing. Thank you, modern medicine.”

Chloe Cole's story is heartbreaking.

AIBU to think that this is medical abuse and that we should not be doing this to children?

Threads like this usually get moved to the feminism/sex and gender board so that people don't see them. Hopefully this one will stay where it is. All political parties and most institutions have been captured by an insane, misogynist ideology. If you haven't been paying attention, you need to start.

All political parties and most institutions have been captured by an insane, misogynist ideology. If you haven't been paying attention, you need to start.

100% this. Please, if you haven't looked into this issue, please do so now. The 'break it down for me' thread on the feminism:sex and gender board is a good place to start.

I've read tweets and reddits from FTM transitioned who believe that they can grow their breasts back by just stopping T and taking supplemental oestrogen because men can grow breasts by taking it.

Oh ffs. Men can make the breast tissue they've already got grow. Some men's breasts grow because of medicines like spironolactone.

Exactly - showing that these girls do not grasp the consequences of what they are signing up for. Anyone who thinks they can have a mastectomy then just grow back their breasts has been lied to or is incapable of understanding the information they've been given. Either way, they are not giving informed consent.

There was also a post on Reddit recently where someone saw that the official name for their “top surgery” was mastectomy on hospital paper work and was shocked. Didn’t even realise that’s what she was having done.

That's crazy.
It's just self harm dressing in rainbows.

Not sure on surgeries but the start is puberty blockers which is given to children here leading to wrong sex hormones prior to 18, which along with social transition leads to a high propensity to progress to surgery - where if nothing was done around 90% would self resolve and be at peace with their sex by 18. It is a pathway which is hard for a child to desist from once started.

And ironically males who identify as women or non binary are more likely to not have surgery (80% remain intact) and just have hormones and stick a bit of makeup on.

Do you have actual data on all of that, or is it just suppostition?

Not to hand but data I have seen- check out info by Helen Joyce and Anabelle Shrier who for example.

www.transgendertrend.com/current-evidence/

Boys who say they want to be girls must be given puberty blockers, so we're told, so that they can keep their bodies small and slim and youthful, even though they grow older. So that they are meant to "pass" as female.

And girls who want to be boys - but they are given the same puberty blockers too? That also restrict girls' growth? So they turn out to be... even smaller than nature intended, even though they want to be men?

So how does that logic work, then?

I'm sorry, but I think this whole business is totally fucked up, and we need to protect all children from causing unnecessary irreversible damage to their bodies.

What people do as adults is their own business. But children? No. We do not experiment on children, or use children to justify adult choices. We do not do that.

autistic girls are being told you dont like the things girls are supposed to like, you must be a boy. Reality is that girls who dont like the things girls are supposed to like grow up to be adult women. Some of them become lesbians, some meet a man they are attracted to, one who does not require them to conform to gender stereotypes, some are now persuaded to permanently ruin their health by transition.

It's a massive safeguarding failure.

It’s catastrophic.

@MumOnAMountain - *Boys who say they want to be girls must be given puberty blockers, so we're told, so that they can keep their bodies small and slim and youthful, even though they grow older. So that they are meant to "pass" as female.

And girls who want to be boys - but they are given the same puberty blockers too? That also restrict girls' growth? So they turn out to be... even smaller than nature intended, even though they want to be men?*

Who could possibly have a vested interest in legal adults with the bodies of prepubescent children? Hmm...I wonder.

YANBU.
Adults have a responsibility to protect children.

nypost.com/2022/12/03/detransitioner-im-suing-the-doctors-who-removed-my-healthy-breasts/amp/

Removal of healthy breasts - lawsuits

We're going to be seeing more and more lawsuits as these poor children grow up and realise what they have lost. It's tragic.

Amen.

I'm a woman who thought I was trans as a teenager.
Turns out I'm just a "tomboy" but I am easily led to the point of becoming obsessive with certain ideology and wanting to belong to a group. I knew I was "different" . I thought my inability to understand female socialisation/other girls and my distress at my changing body and my volatile mood in response to hormones was because I was trans.
Turns out I am autistic.

The existence and visbility of butch lesbians - who were women in a different way, in a way that I could relate to, was a major factor that prevented me transitioning.

Bring on the lawsuits.

The NHS will do the following surgeries on any female over 18 who self identifies as trans (no medical diagnosis necessary)

Surgery for trans men

Common chest procedures for trans men (trans-masculine people) include:

removal of both breasts (bilateral mastectomy) and associated chest reconstruction
nipple repositioning
dermal implant and tattoo

Gender surgery for trans men includes:

construction of a penis (phalloplasty or metoidioplasty)
construction of a scrotum (scrotoplasty) and testicular implants
a penile implant
Removal of the womb (hysterectomy) and the ovaries and fallopian tubes (salpingo-oophorectomy) may also be considered

Women who don’t self identify as trans cannot generally get a hysterectomy until they are at least 30 ‘in case they change their mind about having children’. What makes the fundamental difference between the two groups?

We know that people change their mind about being trans so why are they allowed surgery that has a permanent effect?

twitter.com/moveincircles/status/1615739909783838720?t=0qsWc1NDj4oywSO1sqVnjA&s=08

Instead people are celebrating with cakes.