To think not everything is ‘misogyny’

[Cuppasoupmonster]

… and that the word is massively overused on here?

I’m getting quite tired of it if I’m honest, it feels like every other conversation the ‘misogyny’ card is whipped out and anyone who disagrees has ‘internalised misogyny’ (um no I just have a different opinion).

It’s becoming the ‘BeKind’ of feminism. Overused to the point it’s getting meaningless and irritating, and just used to ‘win’ any kind of nuanced topic without any proper discussion.

AIBU? 🤷🏼‍♀️

Terminology question.

Is anyone who says "hmm, I'm concerned about the high rates of abortion in our society, this seems to be quite a negative outcome" a forced birther?

It depends why they are concerned.

If your solution to this is to force women to give birth, then yes, you are a forced birther. If you look at it from the perspective of tackling social issues that might lead some women to abortion then that could be different - for example, campaigning for high quality and affordable childcare, stamping out discrimination against women in the workplace (see Pregnant the Screwed), ensuring clear and comprehensive sex education from an early age, good maternity care, mental health care, tackling the high levels of sexual assault, empowering women to leave abusive relationships. But if you just decide that abortions are all accessed by silly, careless bitches who need to be taught a lesson then we get into forced birther territory. Don't take away women's access to abortion, don't restrict it to bring abortion rates down if you see them as a problem - look at how society treats girls, women and mothers in all aspects of their lives and how that could be improved and then perhaps we will need fewer abortions. They should always be a fundamental part of healthcare, however.

@yubgummy

Depends on why you're concerned and why you think they're high

I dont think they're high at all.

They should be higher imo

You could do some calculations around how many instances of PIV sex there are in the UK every year and set that against the number of abortions (ensuring you account for post-menopausal women) and then see if it's high. Bet it isn't. Absolute numbers mean very little