Are you 'fatphobic'

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According to this definition it seems I am.

Aibu to think that actually that's completely reasonable?

Teen Vogue writer Catherine Mhloyi said: "In having the word 'fat' appear on the scale, she made a choice to explicitly name her demon, the fear of being called fat, which is fatphobia in its most literal sense."

news.sky.com/story/taylor-swift-video-for-anti-hero-edited-to-remove-the-word-fat-12731618

Um no it doesn't. And it's fucking really not ok to call her that just because you don't like how she thinks about her own body.

"So many people judge fat people. They think overeater, binger, Gorger, gluttony, greedy etc".

How is this not being judgmental/about her own body??

It's apparently fine to say that watching fat people eat makes you feel sick, and that fat people are 'gross'. So telling somebody that they're a judgemental arsehole when they're being a judgemental arsehole seems the lesser of those two evils. I wonder which one MN will delete first. Bet it's the arsehole one.

Oh. Come on!

"Fat" as a noun should be a neutral thing. Lizzie Velásquez is my hero for her campaigning work. My Twitter name is Fat Woman.

Yet we all know that fat as an adjective is a bullying word. It's a shifty unquantifiable range that people hide behind. It's why people like to switch to obese, that sounds more like you have a valid reason to be shaming someone or saying their existence is wrong, they should change.

Not one poster has said the comment about eating is fine. In fact many other posters have replied to the comment saying the exact opposite. I'm not sure how you've missed all those replies.

If your post is deleted then it's because it was a direct personal attack on a poster.

Those were two different posters. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you are taking your hurt caused by one poster out on another. But if that's the case, you owe Theydoyaknow an massive apology for calling her an arsehole. She described how she fears how other people would think about her if she put on weight. That's her fear, her worry about how she would be treated. That's not being an arsehole. It's being a human, with normal human insecurities.

It is a judgement being judgemental about oneself and being a judgemental arsehole are two completely different things.

I do think to some extent most people are quite fatphobic - I go out of my way to never comment on anyone's appearance and keep talk of my own fitness goals to a minimum. Having said that I think now when fat women are regularly included in fashion, pop culture and so forth there is a regeneration to be 'body positive' hence any talk of fearing fatness is frowned upon. I think all in all it's a good thing because very few women actually resemble women like Gisele or Taylor.

I get it @crumpetswithjam gets to me sometimes too, but I have noticed it isn't just limited to being fat that people do this, I had someone do it to me last night at work, about my work, they're very good at their job, or they would be, if they spent more time actually doing it and less time trying to pick apart the performance of other people and use it to try and elevate their own status, their status would elevate if they concentrated on their own work rather than picking holes in mine.

Unfortunately if you are overweight, this is something else that you have to deal with, it is bloody depressing and soul destroying at times, to know you're surrounded by such shallow, self absorbed people isn't it? I'm glad I'm not like that and try really hard to make sure those people are on the very edge of my life so their impact is minimal to nothing really. 💐

@Spencerfloral I hope you are ok, having a layer of fat around your body doesn't define your whole person, and it's hardly innovative and original to point it out and degrade someone about it is it? People who use these tactics are hardly going to win prizes for being observant. 💐

This is a true statement. People DO look at fat people and think all of those things. I didn't say I felt like this, I said I would hate to be fat and be thought of like this, judged like this.

I will be very frank and say that if threads about fat are upsetting someone, they should simply stear coear of them rather than coming in and merailing.

It's also obvious few posters did not read the article.

Swift has ED, showed how her ED makes her feel alongside other issues and was told she is insensitive to people with ED.

Those were two different posters. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you are taking your hurt caused by one poster out on another. But if that's the case, you owe Theydoyaknow an massive apology for calling her an arsehole. She described how she fears how other people would think about her if she put on weight. That's her fear, her worry about how she would be treated. That's not being an arsehole. It's being a human, with normal human insecurities

Thank you, that is exactly what I meant.

Same. That’s got to be one of the most hurtful, sickening things I’ve ever read on the internet. I hope they get some therapy to work through their issues here and never utter that to their children.

I thought it was ridiculous for people to accuse Taylor of 'fatphobia'. She was obviously referencing her own eating disorder, and the beauty standards to which she is harshly subjected to as a famous young woman. She thinks she's 'fat' but also knows she's not and that it's a demand placed on her by the industry - the two versions of her self represent her cognitive dissonance about her body. As well as the torture she puts herself through.

I think it's bullshit to call for censorship of an artist's expression.

I think there is something deeply wrong with you. This is the ugliest thing I've read on MN.

I detest this new trend of using clinically obese models in clothing ads.

I think they look awful and in no way inspire me to purchase said items.

So yes, I must be fat phobic.

This, exactly.

Why do so many very overweight people think they're the only ones allowed to talk about being overweight?

Weight is a personal thing and if someone isn't happy with theirs, trying to silence them because they weigh less than you is absolutely ridiculous.

You do you and let others do them.

@RealBecca did you deliberately completely misread my post? That’s not what I said at all and you know it. 🙄

I bet when you go to a restaurant you order just a side salad and sit there picking at it while glaring disapprovingly at anyone who seems to be enjoying their food.

See, not nice when someone does it to you, is it?

This is ridiculous. Body positivity is a load of bullshit. It isn’t healthy to be overweight, and we shouldn’t be scared of pointing out when people need to do something about their weight.

Not at all I don’t care what size someone is but I do worry about the long term health effects of the body positivity movement that encourages obesity. Body positivity is great but encouraging obesity is no better than encouraging starvation to get a skeletal body. Neither are healthy or safe for the persons body or mind. As someone who suffered an eating disordered for years due to nasty teenagers calling me fat (normal size by current standards) I despise anything that isn’t a healthy food message.

Good grief! For real? What an incredibly restricted life you must lead.

It seemed fairly obvious she was referencing her own disordered thinking, not actually presenting herself as being fat.

anyway, if it’s fatohohic to not want to be fat and be mindful of healthy eating/exercise in part to avoid it, then sure.

Oh give over 😂

'I despise anything that isn’t a healthy food message' you actually do care, more than you care to admit. Despising something signals a great deal of care.

Body positivity isn't telling everyone to go out and eat ten doughnuts. It's telling people to love themselves right where they.