To think JKRowling should be in the House of Lords

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She is probably the best selling living author writing in English

She has given a great deal of money to charity

She has conquered the disadvantages of being an unemployed single mother by her own efforts

She is a great role model for women and girls

It’s not difficult to find instances of women or even female teachers that have sexually assaulted girls. And they’re not trans.

You still haven't said what a woman is.

Yes a really horrific attack. You don’t treat everyone with a shared characteristic the same based on a really tiny minority.

Of course you do. NAMALT but we have sexed based protections because some men are.

And it is undeniable that some trans women are like that.

Tell me why we should remove all safeguarding again? Who does it benefit? Answer not women and girls. No Thank You.

Although men who offend are a minority they are not such as extreme minority as to justify no precautions

Then precautions are justified because of the difference in offending rates between males and females

There is no evidence that TW offend at a lower rate then non trans men ( although they appear at higher rates than none trans men in UK jail for sex offenses this may be because of how data is captured )

Given up to a few percent of men identify as transgender and very few men are called Kevin likelihood of meeting a bad TW is higher than meeting a bad Kevin

Does that mean we can allow Kevin's to use any facility they like? Go to the woman's jail? Play in womens sport?

Equality for Kevin's that what I say - they are the real minority here

And I think that JKR has conducted herself in an incredibly classy way, while others run away at the first sign of 'abuse' (aka someone disagreeing with their opinion), she has stood her ground, refused to allow death and rape threats hound her away. Because she cares about women and girls. She is awesome.

What are her views on anything other than the obvious. Other than her gender critical views to those who support her being in the House of Lords know or even care?

don't be such a cabbage. Plenty of us have posted in this thread about the other good works she does.
But you just want to carp on about one thing? have at it. Or rather take your agenda elsewhere

I didn't ask what "good works" she has done. I asked if those who would like her to be in the house of lords know or care what her views are on topics other the gender critical ones.

clearly her views are that those good works are needed. Was that too difficult?

She has written various essays over time, you could read those and find out. Hint: they're not full of transphobic ranting as some people would like you to think

I started this thread because I came across an ancient reference to Tony Blair’s concept of ‘peoples peers’, which was promulgated as being the choice of voters, to democratise the House of Lords. Of course, nothing much came of it, it was out in the hands of a ‘committee’ , who chose much the same people as usual.

Eugh

That's a very vague answer. What "good works" does she think are needed?

And yes I’m well aware that most violence and sexual assaults are committed by men.

Thats why "TW" are excluded. They are men.

That's a very vague answer. What "good works" does she think are needed?

The support and safety of children world wide is a main "work" JK believes is needed.
She has set up her own children's charity and supports via donations of money and her work to several other children's charities.

It takes a 5 minute Google to see what causes JK supports.

I didn't ask what "good works" she has done. I asked if those who would like her to be in the house of lords know or care what her views are on topics other the gender critical ones.

Well I think her GC views are pretty fucking important to protect the safety and dignity of girls, I don't think they are niche and right wing.

But yes I do care and know what other charities she supports. The information is widely available. Do you think they are unworthy?

Wasn't JKR the first person ever to get knocked off the billionaires list solely due to the amount she was donating to charity? And she set up her own charity.

All this 'what good things has JKR ever actually done?' crap is just disingenous bollocks.

She works/donates to end institutionalisation of children, medical issues and vulnerable women and children. She supported the Labour Party until it no longer knew what women were and why they need certain protections and she was anti-Brexit and pro Scotland staying in the UK.

She's also pro gay rights, including same sex marriage and the rights of same-sex attracted people to remain so without cries of bigotry and attempts at conversion therapy by people who claim to be liberal and socially conscious.

I've been around feminist boards a long time, this tactic is boring now. If you want more details than those we've provided: look them up yourself. We are not here to do your work for you.

You basically accused us of only caring that she has GC views. That's not true.

I'm not a huge fan of her books, although i have enjoyed the ones I've read, especially The Casual Vacancy which had interesting layers. I've found her story behind choosing to go under Initials + Lastname interesting. And i have found the blind determination to have her as a bogeyman disappointing but not surprising.

I'm sure she has said a few things in anger that she might have put differently had she had time to think about it. Who hasn't? But the utter demonification of a woman going about her business is staggering.

You basically accused us of only caring that she has GC views

But even were it true what's the problem?

Caring about the safety and dignity of women and girls is valid.

It's not niche or right wing as previous posters have suggested.

No - we need to get rid of the House of Lords, it's an antiquated bastion of privilege. I don't want to see JKR or anyone else in it. She might get votes if she stood as an MP perhaps.

It is true.

It is true.

It's pretty rude to call people liars.

However so what if it is true for some on the feminist boards?

Concerns for the safety and dignity of women and girls is not a niche or a right wing view no matter what you think?

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Yeap, that is why my daughter is reading us all the Harry Potter books and we all sit through it, just because she is gender critical.

As for the people saying she is not a great writer. I'm not an English lit expert, but what does it take to be a great writer?

Dickens is full of faults and yet he is generally acknowledged as having been pretty good.

@celestialsphere what's that acronym? don't presume to tell me or anyone else what we think. There's a dear

Anyone who is genuinely concerned for women and children would be interested in all policies that affect women and children not just policies those related to trans issues.

You still haven't said what a woman is.

Everyone knows what a woman is. Most people understand the complexities around sex and gender identity.

It’s a question never asked in good faith and I think from now on the most dignified thing to do is just not engage. Hopefully politicians etc will learn this too.