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AIBU?

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To not want my baby at work?

153 replies

Chloe0500 · 28/10/2022 05:54

Hey!

I'm really sorry this may be quite long as I feel I need to give context on the situation for you to fully understand where I'm coming from. I'll add a TLDR at the bottom.

I'm currently 29 weeks pregnant with my first baby and am a support worker for adults with physical disabilities, learning disabilities etc. The place I work consists of 8 very large attached houses with around 12 residents living in each and we as support workers are there 24/7 helping them with their daily lives. Some need more support than others, some go out to work every day, are completely independent but just need support with managing illnesses etc.

Anyway when I found out I was pregnant I had to tell my manager at 7 weeks due to some houses having more challenging behaviour and I was hit in the stomach. We then had to have a meeting with a few other staff members who work in that house so that they knew why I had to leave if any signs of that behaviour came around. It was specifically said in that meeting that I didn't want any other colleagues or residents knowing about the pregnancy as I was so early on and just wanted to keep it to myself anyway. But the next day I walked in and a resident asked me if it was true I'm pregnant! This really annoyed me as the resident told me that a certain colleague had gone round telling all residents straight after that meeting and the full community now knew about it. From then on, I couldn't enter any houses without people whispering about me etc.

Fast forward to now, I've made the decision I want my baby kept completely private from my work since im there as a professional, not a friend. I told my colleagues and manager this. Then I went for a 4D scan and came back to work and my colleague on shift wanted to see the pictures. I got one up on my phone and showed him and he shouted "everyone come look at the baby!" And showed all the residents the scan picture. I know this was an innocent gesture and they are just happy for me but I just feel like this is my private life and I keep being robbed of experiences I should be sharing, not other people.

A few residents have asked me if I'm going to bring the baby into work so everyone can see her and I keep making excuses such as "covid is still around and it'll be flu/cold season so I don't want the baby being around so many people" but they always have responses such as "we can come to your house and see her so not many people are there", "we can see her outside" etc. There's also one resident who used to help out in a nursery and keeps saying things like "I can't wait until she's born, I'll take her for walks and change her nappy and give her bottles" and I don't have the heart to tell her she'll never meet my baby due to her mind being of a 15-16 year old (she's in her 40s) and I know it'll upset her.

Not only this, one of my main duties is encouraging residents to maintain personal hygiene. I even struggle to get some of them to shower, wash or brush their teeth daily before they go to work!

And now other members of staff are reassuring residents I'll be bringing baby in to meet them and when I privately tell them otherwise, they make out like I'm evil and shouldn't be in this job if I don't want to share every detail of my private life with them! Some even have residents over to their homes for a cup of tea etc and that's just not me at all. I like to keep my home life seperate. They all already know where I live, my partners full name, his line of work, my parents names and occupations, all my pets names. I just want this one thing for myself. I constantly have residents coming up to me and touching my bump too and I feel awful telling them not to but it just isn't professional and I don't like it in general.

So AIBU for wanting this? Does this make me a bad support worker? I feel like I shouldn't be annoyed like I am and I feel so guilty for it.

TLDR: AIBU for wanting to keep my baby away from residents I support? Main reasons are: They very rarely shower and don't wash hands after using the toilet, I want to maintain professional boundaries, they already know everything about my private life, this is my first baby and I want her for myself anyway, covid is still a thing. In other lines of work, babies are not allowed to be brought in so why is it different because of my role?

Once again, sorry it's so long. I just want you to understand the situation.

Thanks!

OP posts:
Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 28/10/2022 11:04

Woolandwonder · 28/10/2022 08:12

This. It's totally up to you if you don't want to pop in so that your colleagues and service users can meet your baby, and totally reasonable for you to want to keep some of your home life private. But the way you talk about some of the service users is a bit odd and critical, do you understand why some people with ld might not understand those boundaries and might be excited to meet a baby, being in supported living doesn't make people unkind or uncaring, they are just people.

One of them punched her in the stomach. That’s why she is a bit concerned

KettrickenSmiled · 28/10/2022 11:10

Fuckitydoodah · 28/10/2022 06:14

I think your title is misleading. It infers you'd have to take your baby in whilst you work. You just don't want to take her in for people to see.

To be honest I think you are being unreasonable. The job you have chosen by nature means that the residents feel some connection to you, more so than any other kind of employee/client relationship. They are excited and happy for you. To not take the baby in to show them once born feels a bit mean. If you don't like them having anything much to do with you then maybe you're in the wrong job.

@Fuckitydoodah You're right, the thread title was misleading - I imagined it would be about OP not being able to find childcare & so being forced to take her baby with her.

But she cleared that up in her OP, & you are wrong to think it's unreasonable to keep the baby away from OP's work environment.
I don't know what's going on with the senior management here, but this oversharing of personal info - to the point of inviting residents to into staff homes - breaches all safeguarding protocols. Staff personal info should be confidential. Staff are not there to make friends with residents - they are there to provide support, empathy, personal care etc. Not to divulge each other's private information.

Did you miss the part where OP, a few weeks pregnant, got punched in the gut? Some of the residents have issues, (it's called 'challenging behaviour' in the sector) & it's for this & many other good reasons that boundaries should be maintained by staff, by management, & by the organisation as a whole. It is basic stuff, & hard to believe how far basic level regulatory requirements are being flouted here.

KettrickenSmiled · 28/10/2022 11:12

PeekabooAtTheZoo · 28/10/2022 07:52

The boundaries at this place are horrendous, I wouldn’t be able to cope with how staff don’t seem to give a fuck about privacy or dignity of other staff. Its a safeguarding disaster waiting to happen and in all honesty I would look for another job with professional colleagues. I can’t believe the residents know where you live and visit other staff at home this is seriously unsafe.

This.

OP - you are not going to be able to change your employer's inappropriate culture, it is too widespread & pervasive. If I were you, I'd take my maternity leave, spend some of it finding a new job, & never return.

StickofVeg · 28/10/2022 11:18

To me the problem is you are giving unclear signals. You have: told your manager you were pregnant due to an incident in a house, but then let her discuss it in a team meeting; talked about your family to people at work and shown pics of your scan. You need to stop all that - and if you need to tell your manager something then you need to make sure only he or she knows and it is to be kept confidential.

If anyone asks about your baby a quick "I'm fine thanks" with a smile and change the subject. If someone asks are you bringing your baby into the answer is "No, I won't be doing that I like to keep family and work separate". Don't string people along. Get clear boundaries in place and stick to them.

NightmareSituation · 28/10/2022 11:21

At 29 weeks pregnant you are making a song and dance over nothing. You have 11 weeks before your baby arrives and maternity leave after that. No one is going to force you to bring your baby in during that time or after.

There is nothing more special and precious than a new baby and it sounds very much like your colleagues and residents are pleased for you and want to share your joy. So what if your colleague is promising someone you will bring baby in? Who cares if a resident thinks they will be able to treat your baby like a doll? The long and short of it is that it will not happen if you don’t want it too. You don’t need to be a killjoy about it though.

You need to grow a thicker skin before the baby comes. Everyone has opinions about what a new mum should and shouldn’t be doing and most of it should be taken with a pinch of salt. My piece of advice to you is to nod, smile and do whatever you please. Start practicing now and you will be a whizz by the time the baby comes.

bewarethetides · 28/10/2022 11:22

You should have raised a formal complaint the moment you found out that 'need to know' managers leaked your pregnancy (MEDICAL) details to everyone.

Why on earth didn't you?

KettrickenSmiled · 28/10/2022 11:22

It would be totally reasonable to tell them to wash their hands before touching the baby - it's a learning opportunity for them.
😂😂😂

So shocked by this comment I have to laugh or I'd cry & pull my hair out.
OP's baby is not a prop to be used as an educational tool @bigbluebus
You're another one who's not taken in the fact that she's already been punched in the gut by a resident, while pregnant, aren't you?

Most people bring their new baby to work - at least they did when people worked OOH.
Most people to not work in residential care facilities where the majority of the residents are there because they are unable to cope with independent living - often because they have behavioural or mental health challenges that can make them erratic or volatile.

It is the most basic safeguarding practice for staff personal info to be kept confidential, for staff to maintain a professional boundary between the workplace & their private homes, & to follow elementary safety protocols such as not bringing babies - or any family members to visit.

I think some PP are confusing OP's job with some kind of elderly care, & imagining sweet, harmless old ladies cooing over a baby while soft music plays & every eye is damp with the milk of human kindness.
They are so mistaken it's ludicrous. Some of OP's residents will be people who YOU would not allow round your kids - let alone have your colleagues blab about where you & your kids live to them.

Chloe0500 · 28/10/2022 11:28

Hi everyone, there are so many replies I thought I'd just send one general one rather than reply to each. I couldve explained things a lot better but didn't want to make my post extremely long.

So in regards to me "oversharing" because they know so much about me, when I first started working there I had never worked with LD before and was approached with lots of seemingly innocent questions such as "are you married?", "do you live alone?", "where do you live?" And happily answered them because I wanted to build relationships with the residents. When I say they know where I live, I don't mean literal door number, where I'm from we are just a build up of estates so I told them the name of the estate I live in (again it was my first day and I was with a group of new starters and we all told them). They found out where in the estate I live because a resident was walking through and spotted my car. They then took other residents to see. Other information they found through finding me on Facebook. Admittedly this was completely my fault for not having my privacy settings up to scratch allowing them to see information but I just want to reiterate I have NEVER shared information that I'd class as unprofessional or that I wouldn't be happy with them knowing. There has also been times I've been off work sick and returned to residents knowing exactly what was wrong with me and asking me how I am. This information hasn't come from me, it has come from colleagues who have told them. Or I will discuss something private happening in my life with a colleague and then the next time they see me they'll say "did you manage to sort .....?" In front of residents and then they find out. This isn't done maliciously, this is because my colleagues don't see a problem with sharing about their own lives and will discuss things with each other in front of residents or even include them in the conversation so they forget that I am so private and don't realise what they've done.

The people who think I don't like the job/residents, this is completely untrue. I love my job and really care about everyone I support. I go out of my way every single shift to make really healthy nutritional meals, create craft activities, take them to the pub for a drink and I don't actually have to do any of this. This post is talking more about the residents with full capacity who are more independent and have physical conditions such as no limbs and some with very mild autism/learning difficulties. They are very clever people and I never look at any of them and see them as "disabled" or "lacking capacity" because to me we are all equal and they are all just people like me but with differing abilities and support needs. When working so close with these people for so long, you get to know them so well that you don't tend to notice and you just see them as anyone else.

The reason I talk about colds/flu/covid so much is because its the only excuse I've found that everybody understands so that's what I tend to use. Yes I could say to one resident "I won't be bringing baby in as this is my place of work" and they would completely understand what I'm telling them but they could be sitting next to another resident with autism for example who wouldnt understand what I'm saying and would become upset, anxious or angry with this reply. I have to use a universal excuse that is easy for me to explain in different ways and that's what I've managed to come up with. I'm not actually opposed to my baby being exposed to general germs.

Regarding telling people about the scan, I had no choice but to tell them where I was going as I couldn't just walk out of my shift and come back over an hour later. I had to tell my colleague that it was a scan as I needed them to cover the house for me and also I couldn't lie about where I was going as its classed as paid leave due to it being a pregnancy appointment.

And by "keeping baby to myself" I mean keeping information about her private, not literally keeping her. I'm actually very laid back about that sort of stuff and will gladly hand her over to friends/family to show her off and cuddle etc. I have actively chosen to buy a breast pump so that my mum can feed the baby as she's so excited and loves being really hands on.

The colleague who broke my confidentiality was reported straight away. It was the first thing I did however she denied everything and after that nothing was done apart from her being spoken to. I probably shouldn't have left it but it's just unnecessary stress and conflict I didn't need or want at the time.

And a lot of my colleagues I'd class as "work friends" so I wouldn't go and meet them for drinks etc outside of work but they will text me and ask how me and baby are doing, we chat in work and have a laugh etc and I know they'll all want to meet baby when she's here and I'm fine with them coming over to my house and visiting her. The problem isn't with them as I don't support them and don't need to keep professional boundaries in the same way.

And they know baby's sex because they asked me directly. I'm not an evil person that you seem to think I am. I understand they have a genuine interest and are genuinely excited and happy about the baby so I will give them small amounts of info that I'm happy with them knowing. I've not told them her name, I've said we haven't decided yet as I this is information I don't want them having. There is reasons behind me not wanting to share certain things, for example we have one resident who goes out independently and will go up to strangers that he may have passed by once or twice and he will shout them and chat to them as if he knows them. I don't want to be out with my child when she's older and have a grown man shouting her over by her name, whether I know him or not. Like I say, I want to keep the baby private because of different reasons, not just because I'm selfish and don't want them seeing her.

I completely agree about the boundaries, some staff treat the residents as friends and I think it's unacceptable however I'm one of the minority there with over 100 members of staff who mostly think the same way. This is why I'm asking AIBU, not because I want advice on bringing her to work but because I'm being made to feel like the bad guy and that I'm bad at my job for disagreeing with the majority.

I have spoken to my colleagues privately about being unhappy with what they've shared about me but we cannot do that in front of the residents as due to behaviours, staff cannot be seen disagreeing/arguing because some residents will see this and think they can manipulate us and will make up accusations that result in staff conflict. This has happened multiple times where a resident has seen 2 staff members disagreeing and have then gone to those staff individually and said "(other staff member) said .... about you". And then done the same to the other person. Just because these people have learning disabilities it does not mean they are stupid. They are actually very clever people who know how to manipulate situations to get what they want. I don't mean that in a nasty or offensive way at all, I am just saying this to give you a bit more understanding.

And it's all well saying I could bring baby in a sling/pram but some residents would think nothing of just reaching and taking baby out of the pram or pulling at her while she's attached to me. When I enter the house, I will be instantly surrounded by residents not just looking but touching, grabbing, all talking at once and it will be very difficult to keep my attention on what's happening with the baby while this is going on. If one person is grabbing baby, by the time I've got them off her there will be someone else grabbing another part of her so it just wouldn't be a nice situation to be in. And I couldn't pass baby round and say one resident could hold her but the next (who would squeeze or drop her) say no. It wouldn't be fair.

And with the personal hygiene, until you've reached for a door handle and got a handful of human faeces or had to ask a resident (with full capacity) to change their clothes as they've been wearing and sleeping in them for over a week please don't say I'm being unreasonable for not wanting my baby being touched.

And I'm sorry if any of this comes across as me being offensive to you or any of my residents, this is not my intention at all. I'm using less technical terms so that everybody, including people who don't work in the field understands what I'm trying to say. Also yes we call them residents as this is what they choose to be referred to as. They find the term "service users" too institutional and they call themselves "the residents" and refer to each other as "other residents" so out of respect for them, this is what we refer to them as.

Thank you to those who have been kind and understanding and I'm sorry to those I've offended. This reply has ended up extremely long but I'd rather explain things properly now than leave you all questioning what I was trying to say.

Yes it is a toxic place to work and a select few colleagues are hard to deal with but at the end of the day I'm there for the residents only and they all get so excited when they see I'm on shift and that's so rewarding for me and makes it all worth it.

Oh and for reference, management don't work on site so they don't know/see what goes on and I could keep complaining but if I did it would be something new every day and I'd quickly become known as the one who just moans which is why I don't run to them all the time

OP posts:
Coucous · 28/10/2022 11:29

stuntbubbles · 28/10/2022 09:42

“Unbelievably PFB” because she doesn’t want to bring a newborn near people who punched her in the stomach? OK.

Why is she taking a baby to work anyway? Is it in the contract? It looks like she doesn't even like the residents or her colleagues - I'm not sure why she's asking.
I never taken my children to work and neither have any of my colleagues. The environment is not suitable.

KettrickenSmiled · 28/10/2022 11:34

Maybe you should look for another role, because you speak quite negatively about the people you are supposed to be supporting.

@TravellingSpoon I'm interested to learn what negatives you feel OP has expressed about her residents. I've just re-read her OP & she doesn't say anything mean about them - she sticks to facts. Some of those facts aren't happy & sunny - that's not OP being negative, she's being realistic & practical.

I'm guessing you've never worked in or visited a residential care home for adults with learning difficulties/behavioural challenges. When I did, we always had to have 2 large male staff on roster at any one time. For obvious reasons, like ensuring gut punches to pregnant staff members were avoided as far as possible.
I imagine you will dismiss that as "negative". More fool you. It's a fact of real life for any professional working in these settings. If you could read a single week's reporting in the incident/accident book at OP's place of work, I dare say you wouldn't be taking YOUR baby for a visit.

Stressfordays · 28/10/2022 11:34

I'm a nurse in a nursing home, I took my youngest to work when she was a baby and let them have cuddles and coo over her. It was very cute and brought a lot of joy to them. Even the ones with behaviours that challenge, I assessed their mood and let them see the baby. All 3 of my children go into work regularly and sit and chat to residents, they get a lot out of it. It gives my children a good knowledge of different disabilities and needs. Theyre very understanding children now and aren't scared by dementia patients etc.

However, if you don't want to, then its fine. Just brush off questions of you bringing baby in with a 'yeah, once were all settled' and just never do it.

cestlavielife · 28/10/2022 11:34

Fuckitydoodah · 28/10/2022 06:14

I think your title is misleading. It infers you'd have to take your baby in whilst you work. You just don't want to take her in for people to see.

To be honest I think you are being unreasonable. The job you have chosen by nature means that the residents feel some connection to you, more so than any other kind of employee/client relationship. They are excited and happy for you. To not take the baby in to show them once born feels a bit mean. If you don't like them having anything much to do with you then maybe you're in the wrong job.

Agreed
craate a social story tgatcypu can share
Thus knd of job you arexinvolved in their lives abd you wil be on lesve with your baby. Naturally they want to see the baby, so do this one off.
Your social story can say it is your job as mum to change nappies but the residents can see the baby when it visits and make a card.

LanaDooleyx3 · 28/10/2022 11:36

You don't need to take your baby anywhere that you don't feel comfortable.

I never did with mine, simply because I didn't want to.

If you are worried about upsetting your residents and colleagues when the baby is here I used to just say things like sorry baby is really unsettled today/life is a bit crazy right now/they're just getting over a cold.

KettrickenSmiled · 28/10/2022 11:42

Fingeronthebutton · 28/10/2022 08:44

With your thinking I don’t think you should be working with vulnerable adults.
Im assuming there are some adults in the complex.

Bizarrely, OP's thinking appears to be the sole beacon of reason & professional standards in the entire company @Fingeronthebutton . And even hers have been eroded to the point she has vastly overshared her personal data.

"Vulnerable adults" encompasses a very broad range of behavioural characteristics - from placid, happy residents who simply need a little assisted living, to those who are capable of punching staff, brandishing ah hoc weapons, or having such a major meltdown that it needs 3 powerful staff members to contain them.

It's not OP who is at fault here - her employer has allowed an inappropriate culture to grow to the point of toxicity. The company is one incident away from becoming a newspaper headline. Probably when a resident or staff member gets badly hurt in one of these cosy visits to a staff member's private home.

KettrickenSmiled · 28/10/2022 11:49

WhatsErFace2020 · 28/10/2022 08:57

I would agree with PP that you come across as unkind when you talk about the service users, the reason the rest of the staff don’t see a problem with talking about your baby with them is because they understand it’s an exciting thing they’ll enjoy hearing/talking about.

I also don’t understand why your making such a big deal out of this ‘decision’ just don’t take the baby in - you won’t be there anyway to field their questions anyway and the baby will be at nursery when you return.

just send a pic in and they’ll be happy.

I don't see where you get that opinion from.
OP hasn't said a single unkind thing about a resident. She has merely stated the facts about some of the challenges the residents need help managing.

The rest of the staff's opinions are also wrong. They are fuckwits.
You'd be better off basing your opinions on the facts PP who have actual experience of residential care work than scolding OP for at least having the nous to know her company's safeguarding protocols are so poor they ought to be put in special measures until they have amended their procedures, @WhatsErFace2020 - e.g:

Beyond that, the level of safeguarding sounds very unprofessional. A family member worked in a similar set-up her whole career. We weren’t even supposed to acknowledge her if we saw her out and about with a service user (part of her role was taking them shopping) for her and their privacy.

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Fuck me I’ve worked with similar client groups and the professional standards where you work are appalling. Residents visiting staff at home is a safeguarding nightmare and should not be happening.

Dogtooth · 28/10/2022 11:49

I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill a bit. No one is going to force you to bring your baby in. They're excited for you because you're part of their community. You don't have to volunteer any more information than you want to.

You could turn it into something nice for them playing with dolls and showing what you do with your baby, without a baby having to be present? Or telling harmless stories like 'sometimes my baby burps' etc.

PAFMO · 28/10/2022 12:00

KettrickenSmiled · 28/10/2022 11:01

"Show interest" - sure. It's only human, & polite to do so.
Blab to each other & go against OP's direc tly expressed wish not to reveal her pregnancy in the early stages? Poor show.
Blab to the RESIDENTS? Idiotic.

PS some of your comments about your service users are a little unpleasant and give the impression you care little about their needs and understand less about their motivations.
@PAFMO one of the most basic needs to a residential service user is for the service provider to maintain totally professional & confidential boundaries between service users & clients.
Staff are not there to be friends.
Friendly & compassionate - yes.
Sharing personal info? No! - that goes against all professional standards & conduct advice.
Giving staff address details & inviting residents into staff's private homes? - Absolutely shocking. A total breach of safeguarding protocol.

Imagine the furore if a resident had an accident in a staff member's home.
Or if a resident with more "challenging behaviour" caused an incident?

OP's already been punched in the gut while pregnant. Yet you are scolding her for not becoming even more embroiled & allowing this appalling boundary-crossing to continue? I'm shocked at how many PP cannot see how wrong this company's entire culture is.

No, I agree that the company lacks professional boundaries, absolutely.

I'm not scolding her for not wanting to be more friendly. I'm scolding her (if that's what I'm doing) for clearly telling everyone about her private life when it suits, and speaking in less than professional tones on here about her service users.

Of course she doesn't have to take the child in if she doesn't want. I never said she should. What I said was that in most workplaces it's a normal thing to do. I didn't take mine.

EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 28/10/2022 12:04

PeekabooAtTheZoo · 28/10/2022 07:52

The boundaries at this place are horrendous, I wouldn’t be able to cope with how staff don’t seem to give a fuck about privacy or dignity of other staff. Its a safeguarding disaster waiting to happen and in all honesty I would look for another job with professional colleagues. I can’t believe the residents know where you live and visit other staff at home this is seriously unsafe.

Completely agree with this and others in a similar vein. Staff inviting residents to their private homes is completely unacceptable. Huge red flags for safeguarding.

I've had to let care staff go in the past because they couldn't grasp the difference between being friendly towards service users and being a friend.

Chloe0500 · 28/10/2022 12:07

PAFMO · 28/10/2022 12:00

No, I agree that the company lacks professional boundaries, absolutely.

I'm not scolding her for not wanting to be more friendly. I'm scolding her (if that's what I'm doing) for clearly telling everyone about her private life when it suits, and speaking in less than professional tones on here about her service users.

Of course she doesn't have to take the child in if she doesn't want. I never said she should. What I said was that in most workplaces it's a normal thing to do. I didn't take mine.

Please read my reply above. I haven't shared any private information that would be deemed unprofessional

OP posts:
KettrickenSmiled · 28/10/2022 12:10

Stressfordays · 28/10/2022 11:34

I'm a nurse in a nursing home, I took my youngest to work when she was a baby and let them have cuddles and coo over her. It was very cute and brought a lot of joy to them. Even the ones with behaviours that challenge, I assessed their mood and let them see the baby. All 3 of my children go into work regularly and sit and chat to residents, they get a lot out of it. It gives my children a good knowledge of different disabilities and needs. Theyre very understanding children now and aren't scared by dementia patients etc.

However, if you don't want to, then its fine. Just brush off questions of you bringing baby in with a 'yeah, once were all settled' and just never do it.

Good for you @Stressfordays

OP is NOT a nurse in a nursing home.
She is a care worker for adults with learning difficulties, in a setting where she needed to disclose her pregnancy at 7 weeks because a resident punched her in the gut, & her colleagues needed to know that the next time signs of challenging behaviour arose, OP must be assisted to leave the room.

These kind of incidents will be happening regularly in her place of work.
As a care worker yoruself, I'm amazed at your naivete.

KettrickenSmiled · 28/10/2022 12:14

I'm not scolding her for not wanting to be more friendly. I'm scolding her (if that's what I'm doing) for clearly telling everyone about her private life when it suits, and speaking in less than professional tones on here about her service users.

Cheers @PAFMO & I agree.
I'm wondering, from OP's latest update, WTF was going on with her early training - that she wasn't thoroughly grounded in how to manage interpersonal relationships with residents safely & professionally. This whole company is an accident waiting to happen.

HoppingPavlova · 28/10/2022 12:55

Regarding telling people about the scan, I had no choice but to tell them where I was going as I couldn't just walk out of my shift and come back over an hour later. I had to tell my colleague that it was a scan as I needed them to cover the house for me and also I couldn't lie about where I was going as its classed as paid leave due to it being a pregnancy appointment.

Absolute rubbish. You don’t need to detail your appointment to your colleagues, you just need to say you are going to an approved appointment. So nothing about a scan. Your actions here are creating the mountains out of molehills.

mondaytosunday · 28/10/2022 12:55

You should have stopped this at the start. You should have called out your colleague for telling everyone. You can't hide your pregnancy, however, and people are bound to ask you questions. But you do not have to engage beyond the basic and then change the subject. You are in control of what you reveal, so act like it.

Glitteratitar · 28/10/2022 13:22

HoppingPavlova · 28/10/2022 12:55

Regarding telling people about the scan, I had no choice but to tell them where I was going as I couldn't just walk out of my shift and come back over an hour later. I had to tell my colleague that it was a scan as I needed them to cover the house for me and also I couldn't lie about where I was going as its classed as paid leave due to it being a pregnancy appointment.

Absolute rubbish. You don’t need to detail your appointment to your colleagues, you just need to say you are going to an approved appointment. So nothing about a scan. Your actions here are creating the mountains out of molehills.

Agree completely. Your manager needs to know and that’s it. You can easily respond with “I have a doctors appointment” or “I have a midwife’s appointment”. And how did they even know it’s 4D, does the NHS even do those?

You’re either being private about your pregnancy or you’re not. But right now it seems you want to be open when you want to talk about it, but annoyed when anyone else talks about it.

Cw112 · 28/10/2022 14:00

It's your child at the end of the day and it's your right to parent how you see fit and go through your pregnancy as you see fit. What I would say is that I work in a similar environment to you and its difficult for the people I work with to process changes and the fact I'll be leaving to go on maternity for a long time so I did tell them as early as I felt was safe in the pregnancy to do so (making sure they had enough notice to process their feelings around it and understand it) and since then I've found certain things much easier such as they won't smoke around me now whereas before it would have been difficult to ask them not to. They also won't shout or lash out at me because they understand that would be bad for the baby. So I'm glad I told everyone earlier, it also meant my staff team could support me which is extremely important in a situation where I might need to remove myself rather than tackling a problem the way I normally would for safety reasons. So I'm not sure you've really thought through the support you could get by being more open. I would also say it's unfair to your team to expect some of them to lie to residents and other colleagues when best practice is to work honestly and congruently, infact I'd say you're massively overthinking this because if you were being more open and honest you'd also be putting in place boundaries eg. Baby cannot come in unless you're washing your hands regularly because their immune system won't be as good as ours yet, baby will only be coming in for a short visit because they're tiny and will get tired easily, you have to ask pregnant ladies for permission before touching them and stop if they say no because that's how we show respect etc etc so you're preparing people for what to expect when the time comes. Perhaps it's that baby will come in but only for looking and no touching because of covid etc. The more groundwork you lay the easier you'd make it on yourself longer term but at the end of the day it's your decision to make and noone can really tell you to do otherwise.