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Police refusing to identify suspects gender

60 replies

BaggieMaggie · 27/10/2022 18:26

Sorry it’s a daily mail link but a friend sent this to me and I think it is absolutely ridiculous that we are living in a world where the police are to scared to identify a persons gender, after they are suspected of a crime. The person in the picture is clearly a man. Not really Aibu but I just feel stories like this need more attention. This person is suspected of exposing themselves to two teenage girls. Poor girls

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11360961/Police-issue-pictures-hunt-suspect-exposed-girls-aged-15-16-train.html

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Crackof · 27/10/2022 18:30

Ridiculous to think that we'd believe for a minute that this man wasn't one. Humans can tell each others' sex with incredible accuracy. And for very good reasons.
The police are letting women down badly. Again.

Vapeyvapevape · 27/10/2022 18:30

Haven't clicked on the link but I'm sure the poor girls were able to confirm it was a man as they unfortunately saw his penis . If someone has a penis then they're a man .
This shit really needs to stop .

Crackof · 27/10/2022 18:32

Vapeyvapevape · 27/10/2022 18:30

Haven't clicked on the link but I'm sure the poor girls were able to confirm it was a man as they unfortunately saw his penis . If someone has a penis then they're a man .
This shit really needs to stop .

100% agree. And it will stop, but so much harm is being done in the meantime.

Halstead · 27/10/2022 18:34

The comments are, at least, encouraging.

The tide is turning against this shit.

LunaStateOfMind · 27/10/2022 18:35

I personally think they’ve missed a trick here. I’d have been shouting man and using male pronouns and sitting back waiting for him to get in touch to sue for his hurty feelings.

BaggieMaggie · 27/10/2022 18:35

Halstead · 27/10/2022 18:34

The comments are, at least, encouraging.

The tide is turning against this shit.

Yes I’m glad to see most of the comments are agreeing that it is absolutely ridiculous.

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BarbaraofSeville · 27/10/2022 18:37

@Halstead more likely that this is one issue that MN and the DM have always broadly agreed on.

FlorettaB · 27/10/2022 18:40

When people get off on exposing their genitals to unsuspecting women and children, what sex do they tend to be?

WallaceinAnderland · 27/10/2022 18:45

Special license for men in skirts obviously.

NotTerfNorCis · 27/10/2022 18:51

But TRAs say transwomen don't commit any more sexual crimes than women...

So for every individual like this, there must be a woman going about exposing herself to teenage girls, right? In fact dozens more, given the ratio of women to transwomen.

VaddaABeetch · 27/10/2022 19:12

women do not have a penis.

that is a man.

the police are more interested in a man’s feelings than the safety & dignity of women & children.

BaggieMaggie · 27/10/2022 19:14

VaddaABeetch · 27/10/2022 19:12

women do not have a penis.

that is a man.

the police are more interested in a man’s feelings than the safety & dignity of women & children.

I completely agree

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Untitledsquatboulder · 27/10/2022 19:19

It would have really help this debate if people would stop using the word gender when they mean sex.

Sex is a biological reality.
Gender is a set of cultural stereotypes.

VaddaABeetch · 27/10/2022 19:25

@Untitledsquatboulder bur the police can see deep into the souls of these people. They can see the womanly essence.

Anyway is it not obvious that putting lipstick on turns a man into a woman.

Yesthatismychildsigh · 27/10/2022 19:26

They’re actually refusing to confirm their sex.

AnneLovesGilbert · 27/10/2022 19:34

'We are committed to tackling violence against women and girls across the rail and underground network.'

As if they fucking are.

ErrolTheDragon · 27/10/2022 20:02

MailOnline has further asked British Transport Police what form of genitals the suspect is alleged to have exposed to the teenage girls.
If you recognise them,...

Who or what does 'them' refer to?

itsgettingweird · 27/10/2022 20:11

Well it won't be their gender they are revealing.

It'll be their sex.

So did they expose a penis or woman's genitals which by bodily design would mostly be just public hair!

We can see this person is wearing a skirt and purple wig. But what does that mean? Clothing doesn't define someone's sex or gender as gender is just a social construct.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 27/10/2022 20:12

Exactly @Untitledsquatboulder ive no idea what this man’s gender is but his sex is blindingly obvious

Discovereads · 27/10/2022 20:15

Crackof · 27/10/2022 18:30

Ridiculous to think that we'd believe for a minute that this man wasn't one. Humans can tell each others' sex with incredible accuracy. And for very good reasons.
The police are letting women down badly. Again.

Humans can tell each others' sex with incredible accuracy

Erm, no humans can’t. Not from a photo alone at any rate. As the dozens of threads on here started claiming a model in woman’s clothing is “a man” and it inevitably turns out that close to half of posters think the model is a man, but then we all find out, this is model so and so who is actually a woman (and not a transwoman).

7Worfs · 27/10/2022 20:18

To quote Austin Powers, “that’s a man, baby”.
Judging by the choice of clothes, we may be dealing with some kind of dirty fetishist rather than a person genuinely distraught by their own body.

Readaboutyourself · 27/10/2022 20:20

NotTerfNorCis · 27/10/2022 18:51

But TRAs say transwomen don't commit any more sexual crimes than women...

So for every individual like this, there must be a woman going about exposing herself to teenage girls, right? In fact dozens more, given the ratio of women to transwomen.

How do you know he’s/she’s/they’re a trans woman?

My 5 cents… do the police need to say it? It’s quite evident from the photos what this person looked like on that day.

Auntieobem · 27/10/2022 20:26

This is just ridiculous. Stick on a wig, a skirt, some fake boobs and suddenly ghe police can't tell whether you're a man or a woman??? Doesn't say much for their fucking detective skills does it???

Auntieobem · 27/10/2022 20:28

Guess the key question is whether it was a man's penis or a woman's penis.....

Rexthesnail · 27/10/2022 20:29

@Auntieobem 100% agree

And yet people still don't understand why we want female, female born female, safe spaces?!?