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Just Stop Oil's daily protests

431 replies

CatsAreAlwaysCute · 27/10/2022 16:09

Is anyone else concerned about where these daily protests will lead us?

The public are clearly getting more and more irritated by their antics. It's only a matter of time before one of the protestors are seriously injured.

I'm also worried that the government will ban certain types of protest as a result?

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FrippEnos · 30/10/2022 10:49

fiftiesmum · 29/10/2022 18:29

How the hell do you know how much I care - at the moment I am putting into practice what I think. I don't fly, I travel by train (electric) and don't use fossil fuels for heating or cooking.

Because for everything that you say you are not putting anything on the line for it.

You will join them when you retire, just as long as it doesn't inconvenience you.
What a hero. Not.

Devoutspoken · 30/10/2022 10:57

If you're worried about getting stuck in traffic, cos if them, just cycle. Simple

FrippEnos · 30/10/2022 11:00

Devoutspoken · 30/10/2022 10:57

If you're worried about getting stuck in traffic, cos if them, just cycle. Simple

I am sure that the fire brigade and ambulance service will thankyou for your advice.

Devoutspoken · 30/10/2022 11:28

Less cars on the road altogether would help fire engines and ambulances

Daftasabroom · 30/10/2022 11:56

Tulipomania · 30/10/2022 09:59

BigFatLiar You do know that plastics are made from oil, right?

Not necessarily, the majority certainly, but many plastics can and are made from natural feedstocks and recycled materials. PET which most plastic bottles are made from is one of most easily recycled plastics.

CatsAreAlwaysCute · 30/10/2022 13:18

Just saw on Twitter that they're back, and the public are not handling it well...

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FrippEnos · 30/10/2022 13:21

Devoutspoken · 30/10/2022 11:28

Less cars on the road altogether would help fire engines and ambulances

And the way to go about that is to build an infrastructure that doesn't rely on people owning cars.

Throwing two opposing sides together as the various governments have done is not going to work.

Pixiedust1234 · 30/10/2022 13:27

@fiftiesmum - How the hell do you know how much I care - at the moment I am putting into practice what I think. I don't fly, I travel by train (electric) and don't use fossil fuels for heating or cooking.

And yet you are using the Internet that requires data centres using extreme and horrifying amounts of energy to keep the servers cool. Even moving whole data farms (facebook) to Scandinavian countries doesn't help that much. And let's not talk about bitcoin mining...

Daftasabroom · 30/10/2022 14:43

@Pixiedust1234 the Internet that requires data centres using extreme and horrifying amounts of energy to keep the servers cool
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Don't be so melodramatic, every digital gadget on the planet, the internet, data farms, bitcoin mining etc combined is responsible for about 6% of emissions. That's pretty much the same as fugitive emissions from flaring and gas leaks. Many of the server farms in the Arctic Circle also run on renewable energy.

Google have been net zero for years.

When was the last time you compared EPDs before making a purchasing decision?

Devoutspoken · 30/10/2022 15:44

Catsarealwayscute, is that all the public 'not handling it well' or just a few angry car drivers?

Piggywaspushed · 30/10/2022 15:51

I walked past a protest yesterday. Lots of passers by applauded them. The protestors were mainly not young at all, so posters could drop the 'spoilt brats' rhetoric.

CatsAreAlwaysCute · 30/10/2022 18:02

Devoutspoken · 30/10/2022 15:44

Catsarealwayscute, is that all the public 'not handling it well' or just a few angry car drivers?

Well, given the responses on here and the many videos on Twitter, I would guess that a big chunk of the public are fed-up.

I don't live in London, but if I did, I would be incredibly irate at being late to work because of these clowns.

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Dave20 · 30/10/2022 18:26

Twentypast · 29/10/2022 23:24

Rubbish. I was stuck in Cromwell Rd the other day. There was over a mile tailback with an ambulance behind me. There's no way it could have got though. It doesn’t take much for central London to become gridlocked and nobody moved.

Agree. Of course protests block ambulances and fire engine. There’s loads of video on YouTube of protesters stopping them.

When an ambulance comes, every second counts. A close family member of mine had a stroke and is making a recovery, thanks to an ambulance coming in 9 minutes.

If this happened in the area where the protesters were, God only knows what would have happened.

Obviously this impacts people dying or having more serious injuries. It’s bloody obvious!

BerriesOnTop · 31/10/2022 04:46

Daftasabroom · 30/10/2022 14:43

@Pixiedust1234 the Internet that requires data centres using extreme and horrifying amounts of energy to keep the servers cool
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Don't be so melodramatic, every digital gadget on the planet, the internet, data farms, bitcoin mining etc combined is responsible for about 6% of emissions. That's pretty much the same as fugitive emissions from flaring and gas leaks. Many of the server farms in the Arctic Circle also run on renewable energy.

Google have been net zero for years.

When was the last time you compared EPDs before making a purchasing decision?

Well flying (including air freight) is like 3% of emissions so I am not worried about it at all either ✌️

Daftasabroom · 31/10/2022 08:15

@BerriesOnTop I am not worried about it at all either

You should be.

Pixiedust1234 · 31/10/2022 11:13

Daftasabroom · 30/10/2022 14:43

@Pixiedust1234 the Internet that requires data centres using extreme and horrifying amounts of energy to keep the servers cool
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Don't be so melodramatic, every digital gadget on the planet, the internet, data farms, bitcoin mining etc combined is responsible for about 6% of emissions. That's pretty much the same as fugitive emissions from flaring and gas leaks. Many of the server farms in the Arctic Circle also run on renewable energy.

Google have been net zero for years.

When was the last time you compared EPDs before making a purchasing decision?

I'm not a Just Stop Oil protester. The other poster dreams of being one and will start with this shit when she retires. Of course people are going to call out her/others hypocrisy 🙄

Daftasabroom · 31/10/2022 11:31

@Pixiedust1234 when was the last time you read an EPD?

Pixiedust1234 · 31/10/2022 11:37

Why would I need to if I'm only calling out a posters hypocrisy because they don't use a car or heat their home but seem fine to use other things that use energy , plastics and oil. If you are going to join a cause and be happy about causing suffering to others despite not being 100% behind the cause in your personal life then at least own it.

Daftasabroom · 31/10/2022 11:45

@Pixiedust1234 because unless you are making the effort yourself it's a double hypocrisy to call out others.

Daftasabroom · 31/10/2022 11:47

@Pixiedust1234 unless you're just trolling of course?

Pixiedust1234 · 31/10/2022 11:56

Nope just agreeing with the OP that these protesters are annoying the public in general and aren't going about it the right way. If a (future) protester posts on here that they have right on their side then surely it's fine to check their upstanding credentials first. I believe MN allow that? If not then please link me to their specific guidelines.

Daftasabroom · 31/10/2022 12:04

@Pixiedust1234 the protesters may be annoying but it was YOU I was calling out for making melodramatic or exaggerated claims about the emissions associated with tech and gadgetry. And to be fair you haven't actually commented on your own over exaggeration just deflected.

SherbetDips · 31/10/2022 12:09

@electricdreaming We don’t need unwashed unemployed idiots to tell us this information though.

most people I know are doing their bit to help the environment.

Imnotswallowingthat · 31/10/2022 12:15

Meanwhile the Met Police warn the public not to "directly intervene" where protests are taking place. Well, maybe they wouldn't need to if the police did their bloody job and removed them.

electricdreaming · 31/10/2022 12:18

Dave20 · 30/10/2022 18:26

Agree. Of course protests block ambulances and fire engine. There’s loads of video on YouTube of protesters stopping them.

When an ambulance comes, every second counts. A close family member of mine had a stroke and is making a recovery, thanks to an ambulance coming in 9 minutes.

If this happened in the area where the protesters were, God only knows what would have happened.

Obviously this impacts people dying or having more serious injuries. It’s bloody obvious!

Can you please link one? Or find evidence of one that doesn’t have a just stop oil video in response showing them moving out of the way? I’m very sorry to hear about your family member.

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