Calm down @limitedperiodonly. I know you are desperate to justify yourself having been called out on your rude and entitled behaviour, but spending your afternoon seething and challenging / insulting me directly is rather OTT.
It seems you have a particular problem with me because I would not only challenge you and sit down anyway, but I would enjoy it. That is true. Not because I am aggressive or a sexual deviant as you suggest, but because the nose in book/bag on seat move is really dickish and is also well known by commuters (commonly also deployed to avoid seeing those who might need a seat more than you do - do you indulge in that anti social public transport ruse too?). Also because you followed up on being a passive aggressive dick by being extremely rude and dismissive to the poor tired commuter who politely asked you to move your bag. Didn’t even deign to respond, just waved them away like staff or shit on your shoe. Who does this? It is so very rude and unnecessary. Damn right I would have challenged you - your selfish behaviour relies on others being too polite or nervous to challenge you. Sod that.
I’m also not falling for your subsequent posts where you are suddenly a victim feeling threatened on a mysteriously empty train. That is not what you originally described and is far from my experience of 20 years rush hour commuting in London. There might be a couple of seats dotted round the carriage, which others are heading for, and which are also seated next to fellow passengers (the horror!). This is the more realistic scenario, unless your London travel involves midday museum excursions on the District Line, late night travel or lockdown services.
No, you described there being other seats available, not acres of room or a near empty train. Why would you even position your bag to protect your space if there was plenty of room for everyone to spread out? You wouldn’t. Neither would you deal with an aggressive bully weirdly trying to sit next to you on a near empty train by simply wafting your fingers - that wouldn’t have any affect at all on an aggressor.
I call bullshit. You are amending your story to paint yourself as the victim and me as some weird aggressor because I pointed out how selfish and rude your behaviour was, as did others. The original story that I reacted to described being on a train with others looking for a seat, not a weirdly empty service. You were smug in your description of passive aggressively discouraging other commuters who would like to sit, then reacting very rudely when asked to move you bag. Just own it and stop trying to paint yourself a victim and others as aggressors because they don’t just accept it (the mean trick that you describe is well known, but dicks get away with it because they rely on the politeness / nervousness of fellow passengers. I would encourage others to call them
out - they might inwardly seeth, but they wont say anything further in front of their fellow passengers because they know they have acted selfishly).
I know you will want to send me another slew of changed information, justifications and insults in response @limitedperiodonly. Feel free to waste your time if you wish but it wont make any difference. I think you acted like a real dick and it would be a public service to challenge you where others might not. Maybe you wont act like such an entitled prat next time. I also think your subsequent reaction and insults to me are
OTT, and I don’t believe your subsequent inventions that this is about your safety on an empty train at all - that is invention to save face imo.
I’m sorry that I seem to have offended by describing my experience of public transport where I live and have commuted for 20 years. I assure you I am not a wannabe gangster as your insults suggest, but a tired commuter who has seen all these silly seat tricks before and has no patience for it. Compounded by your extreme rudeness and condescension in waving the poor sod away. I doubt this is true tbh, even if you were travelling on an empty regional train. Most people would react badly to unjustified rudeness - they would think you were a dick even if they didn’t have the confidence to say it. And as for your subsequent invention that the commuter was in fact an aggressive bully - I don’t believe
for a minute that you would have just wafted your fingers in that scenario. You would have needed and much more assertive approach in this alarming (and totally different) scenario.
I regret that I have had to write an essay on the way home to repudiate the multiple aggressive messages that you have sent me this afternoon while I’ve been at work. However in much the same way as I wouldn’t tolerate your selfish and rude seat bagging behaviour, I am also not going to tolerate multiple messages changing your story and painting yourself as some kind of vulnerable victim and me as an aggressive bully because you don’t like being called out.
TL:DR - it is clear you are changing your story to make out you are the victim of aggression in reaction to being called out on v rude behaviour by multiple posters. It won’t wash, no matter how many times you @ me with your insults and imaginary scenarios. I still think you acted like a real dick, and I hope next time you try this trick you only get confronted by a knackered but polite lady commuter. Since we are
imagining scenarios, let’s imagine that next time you dismissively waft your fingers you do so at a truly aggressive or drunken bully who might react worse than playing you at your own game by sitting in the free seat that they had paid for.