To think people should move to the left lane when not overtaking on the motorway?

[AnotherMalbecPlease]

I’ve been doing a lot of motorway driving recently and have noticed that so many drivers to not move over when they can. On a 4 lane stretch of the M25 today, there was a driver doing 50 in the third lane - massive gap in the second lane - it caused chaos - why not just move over?

@Revolvingwhore I really hope you tailgate me some time, because I have front and rear dash cams for such events. here is a result of the last person that tailgated me like that.

Its 4 lanes though, move to the right over take then get into any lane you see fit.

I do see the frustration middle lane hogging causes and to be honest i feel most do it out of fear, oh no big lorry that i cant see past so i will move over one lane, then a lorry comes into second lane, oh no same problem will move again into lane 3 and sit at 50/60mph whilst probably cursing and shouting at people driving correctly even though they aren't at fault.

Im a 4th lane driver 😟 and would without a doubt unleash some choice words and probably middle fingers if someone tried to sit at 50mph in front of me.

Is it just me being more irritable, or has this got noticeably worse since the first lockdown.

it is one of the many reasons I have completely fallen out of love with long distance driving.

Alternatively get out of the fucking way.

Alternatively get out of the fucking way

Calm down. Everyone is just trying to get from A to B safely. 🤷‍♀️

And it's always the people with dash cams who drive like they've only got two gears. I always thinkvl those with dash cams drive around looking to wind people up so that rush off to the police, and put it on Facebook. Pathetic. As I said, who made you a traffic officer?

Brake checking is very dangerous.

Brake checking is very dangerous

... as is tailgating at speed

So get out of the way. Easy.

@Squirelnutkins I think you may have misunderstood my post.

Adaptive cruise control is fantastic in prime driving conditions, but not so much during the morning/evening rush hour (or general heavy traffic conditions). That’s when the driver needs to resume control, and the driver needs to drive to the conditions of the road. For example, if you’re in lane 2 and adaptive cruise control results in leaving a large gap between you and the car in front, there’s a risk that a vehicle in lane 1 will take advantage of that gap in front of you. As a result, your car will now pull back to widen the gap between you and the car that has just pulled in. How does this help the flow of traffic? You’re essentially holding up all the cars behind you. For some this will result in impatience, frustration and risky undertaking manoeuvres. I wonder how many accidents can be attributed to this? If you remove the ambiguity, in heavy traffic conditions, by reducing the space, preventing people pulling in at the last minute, and therefore preventing a domino effect of break lights and potential collisions with those who aren’t focused on the road, then that can only be a good thing.

This should not be confused with tailgating, you can keep a bigger space, and comfortably keep up with the traffic in your lane. The very fact that cars can, and do, undertake to get ahead means that someone is very obviously in the wrong lane. I question the alertness of those who cruise along in lane 2, 3 or 4 - moving correctly, from one lane to another, demonstrates that you are an able, alert and confident driver. Lane hogging tells me the exact opposite!

A good driver is an adaptable driver, one that can look ahead, look out for particular driving styles and assess risk accordingly by preempting the manoeuvres of another driver. That sixth sense comes with driving experience, and whilst driver aids and gadgets are wonderful technological
advances, until all cars are equal then such technology needs to be used appropriately and the driver should always be in ultimate control, particularly when driving in heavy traffic, and adapt their driving style and level of alertness accordingly.

Why? Why does your need to get past me trump my need to be overtaking at a safe, legal speed?

I am happy you for to over take and it's nothing to do with me. If you're in the wrong lane and deliberately apply the brakes because you think you can police the driving and speed of others you need to move over and concentrate on your own driving.

I didn't say I was doing any of that

I was making the point - as are you - that brake checking is very dangerous.

Equally, so is tailgating - which your post saying 'so get out of the way' implies you are doing.

@Itsokay2020 I agree with you to degree with your post, but adaptive cruise control can still be used in conjunction with acceleration etc., with out it being disabled if used correctly at least in my vehicle any way and so you can close the gap as you see fit. Using it incorrectly I agree as with any system, can cause issues but it all depends your understanding of the system and how much autonomous control you allow. If you use it in the correct fashion in a majority of conditions with semi autonomous control it is fine, the knack is knowing how to use it fully.

Tailgating is inevitable when idiots wander across into your lane without looking to see what's fast approaching.

Well funnily enough the police do check the driving of the person who has submitted the footage also, as they usually require a full 2-3 minutes footage either side of the incident.

No one made me traffic office but if there is an idiot on the road who puts mine and other peoples safety at risk I have a duty as responsible citizen to report it. Don't want reporting don't drive like a complete idiot then.

Also FYI I take great pleasure in reporting people who drive with your attitude, if it saves one life its worth every minute of my day submitting it online.🤗

Aww sounds like you don't like the fact you cant get away with driving like a complete Buffon when you think the police are not watching!

Well think again! 😁

For those who would like to contribute more footage of people like @Revolvingwhore

nextbase.co.uk/national-dash-cam-safety-portal/

You sound a little wound up but, happy to be of service, 😃

Maybe you should report it. Do your duty.

Not putting any ones life's at risk right now are you, unless your driving right now on your phone.

You're. If you're going to be such an upstanding citizen and traffic officer you should brush up your command of the apostrophe.

Your thread title shows why its a problem. "To think people should move..." um, its not about thinking, its about people not following the highway code. Your title makes it seem its an option 😉

I would love it if there was more government adverts and enforcement but unfortunately we are still seeing drunk drivers on the roads killing innocent people, so I'm not quite sure what the answer is. Public flogging maybe?