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Who's wrong? (pics included)

245 replies

autienotnaughty · 25/10/2022 09:00

Hi wondering if you can clear this up for me.

So to set the scene. Busy road with a doctors on one side and school on the other. It's a 30 limit. Car A is going too fast for the situation but not necessarily over speed limit. Possibly 25-35. Car B is infront of Car A. Car B indicates left and starts to pull round. Car A pulls around Car B as it turns. At the same time Car C pulls out, Car C can see car B but can not see any cars behind Car B. Car C thinks when Car B turns left it has time to turn its self. Car A hits Car C.
Car A says Car C is at fault as he should not have turned when the view was blocked.
Car C says Car A is at fault as he was driving too fast and should not have over took Car B.

Who's at fault?

OP posts:
LucilleBallsy · 25/10/2022 11:43

@autienotnaughty which was your car?

Or were you an innocent witness?

You see, if you were in any of those cars, your drawing and report of what happened is bound to be subjective and you want it to be in your favour.

Clymene · 25/10/2022 11:46

poopaloobop · 25/10/2022 11:28

Car C officially but car A was being a tit

No they weren't. Say car B stopped halfway through turning into the junction to let a pedestrian cross. Assuming the road ahead is clear, A is perfectly entitled to pull out around them.
There is nothing wrong with doing that. Car C is 100% at fault.

Shakirasma · 25/10/2022 11:46

C was at fault.

Car A was driving like a nob, but the roads are full of nobs. Whenever you are pulling out in to a road it's your responsibility to ensure it's clear, of both sensible drivers and nobs too.

Onlyforcake · 25/10/2022 11:51

C because you don't pull out if you can't see the road.
A because uou don't overtake at a junction.

Which was an audi Wink

PuppyMonkey · 25/10/2022 11:52

Come on OP, explain who you are don’t just reply to one random post. Grin

Dorisbonson · 25/10/2022 11:59

I was car C several years ago in a very similar situation. Insurance companies couldn't agree. Two years later in court, I could barely remember what happened and witness statements were all 50/50, car A won.

DisforDarkChocolate · 25/10/2022 12:00

Car C but I think the insurance will split the blame.

Why do people overtake in this situation instead of just slowing down very briefly while the person in front turns?

Mardyface · 25/10/2022 12:02

Honestly it's only insurance companies who care who's at fault and they make their decisions based on a set of rules + how much it's going to cost them to pursue it.

Otherwise I'm guessing nobody actually wanted to crash into another car so it was an accident. I don't suppose car C will pull out without checking again or car A will overtake too fast at a junction either.

Namechangehereandnow · 25/10/2022 12:05

Clymene · 25/10/2022 11:46

No they weren't. Say car B stopped halfway through turning into the junction to let a pedestrian cross. Assuming the road ahead is clear, A is perfectly entitled to pull out around them.
There is nothing wrong with doing that. Car C is 100% at fault.

Yes they were - there is something wrong with doing that
Highway Code -
167
DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users. For example
approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road

LanaDooleyx3 · 25/10/2022 12:06

Car C.

Pulling onto a road where you cannot see clearly, car who is already on said road has priority.

girlmom21 · 25/10/2022 12:07

PuppyMonkey · 25/10/2022 11:52

Come on OP, explain who you are don’t just reply to one random post. Grin

She has to be car C

Jalepenojello · 25/10/2022 12:11

Car A should be giving way to traffic on the major road.

I wouldn’t have pulled out with no visibility.

Jalepenojello · 25/10/2022 12:11

Car c is wrong sorry

WatchoRulo · 25/10/2022 12:13

Driver of Car C in the wrong - you can't just pull out hoping there's nothing coming!

autienotnaughty · 25/10/2022 12:14

BattleOfPastings · 25/10/2022 09:14

Ask yourself this

but for the actions of car A would there have been a crash?

If car c had waited until it was clear would there have been a crash?

OP posts:
autienotnaughty · 25/10/2022 12:15

2pinkginsplease · 25/10/2022 09:18

Joint liability. A shouldn’t have been an idiot and should have more patience, C pulled out onto oncoming traffic.

would this accident have happened if A wasn’t being so impatient?

It could be argued c was also impatient

OP posts:
Flapjack637 · 25/10/2022 12:17

Car c

FamSender · 25/10/2022 12:17

Guess you are Car A op?

autienotnaughty · 25/10/2022 12:18

Largethighsbadeyes · 25/10/2022 09:31

Fess up OP! Which car were you?

I will I've not finished the messages yet!

OP posts:
FamSender · 25/10/2022 12:19

B has stopped the traffic on the main road, so C has time to turn onto it, but A dangerously overtakes at a junction and surprises C who is not expecting it.

Car A is at fault.

girlmom21 · 25/10/2022 12:19

Oh you're A then? You're going to get ripped to shreds if you admit that by people who never driver faster than 3mph under the speed limit and always know their exact speed Grin

girlmom21 · 25/10/2022 12:20

FamSender · 25/10/2022 12:19

B has stopped the traffic on the main road, so C has time to turn onto it, but A dangerously overtakes at a junction and surprises C who is not expecting it.

Car A is at fault.

B didn't stop the traffic and C clearly didn't have time to turn.

Pixiedust1234 · 25/10/2022 12:21

Clymene · 25/10/2022 09:26

Car C. They pulled out at a junction without checking it was clear. They should have waited for B to complete their turn if they couldn't see properly.

This. Its all car c fault.

MrFirstTimeBuyer · 25/10/2022 12:21

Funny responses.

Unless overtaking was prohibited, then it is 100% C's fault and no police/insurance/court would spend more than 2 minutes deciding it.

If overtaking was prohibited, then more difficult since both at fault.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 25/10/2022 12:25

FamSender · 25/10/2022 12:19

B has stopped the traffic on the main road, so C has time to turn onto it, but A dangerously overtakes at a junction and surprises C who is not expecting it.

Car A is at fault.

Car B didn't stop the traffic, they'd pulled into a road.Car A was the traffic and continued moving. Car C should not have attempted to pull out onto a road with oncoming traffic.

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