Rishi is PM - coronation, unelected -GE Now

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This is not democracy.

*Equally I think people who roll out the "you don't vote for a PM" are deliberately missing they point.

This government have been an absolute shambles over the last 2 years.*

Doesn't change the fact that the conservatives were voted in. You don't vote for the PM, the party is voted in, the party hasn't changed. The conservatives are still in power.

it's always a delight when you make an appearance.

I await a flurry of links to articles.

These 'it is/isn't a democracy posts' are detracting a bit. What do we think of Sunak? He has played a good game 'Never complain, never explain'. He is so quiet. All his comms are very simple too. Interesting.

All this talk about democracy amuses me now.

We've known for a week or so that we're having a new PM. We have one. So why the outcry? Did you want Truss to continue? Who did you want after Truss and why?

This is the way the voting system goes. It's nothing new, and yes, it may not be a perfect system, but the question is who else did you want? I'm not understanding.

Interview why a GE is needed as Sunak doesn't gave a mandate.

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FFS. Liz Truss got herself out by proving totally incompetent and unable to lead her party. She brought in a ludicrous budget, the markets took fright, the cost of government borrowing shot up (which we will all pay for) and she sacked her Chancellor. Then she sacked her Home Secretary on a pretext. Then look at what happened during the fracking debate a few days ago. Total confusion and breakdown of party discipline. That's why she resigned.

Anybody remember rishis dishes ? Another pointless waste of taxpayer's money.

As a nation, we voted for the Tories and that's what we've got, Tories. If you want a Presidential system where you vote for the person then lobby for it.

Stop complaining. We've got what WE voted for (No, I don't like Sunak, but I don't much like Mordaunt. In face I'd rather have had Boris back than either of those two, but I would prefer Labour led by Yvette Cooper to anything).

I think he printed more than that. But yes. No wonder there's no room for actual comedy anymore. Modern politics has replaced it.

Dream on. January 2025. Keep smiling 😁

Sunak was rejected as party leader by the Tory party membership but has been imposed on us regardless.

How a party elects their leader is up to them. For the Tories, it’s set by their 1922 Committee. For Labour I believe it’s the Parliamentary Labour Party. The membership might have rejected Sunak in the last leadership election but the 1922 Committee set out the rules differently for this one (else we’d be in for another two months of political void) and ultimately a vote of the membership wasn’t required because there was only one candidate.

Whether we like it or not we choose our mps, not our leaders. Though admittedly the last couple of months have pushed that principle to breaking point.

Don’t necessarily agree with this but it did make me laugh my head off!

I hope the electorate remember when we do finally get to General Election time that the state of the economy now is largely a result of Tory policy since 2010. A long, long time since Labour last had any influence on the economy. One of the reasons we took such a huge hit over Covid in social and personal terms as well as financial was because the Tories had let pandemic planning slip and didn't react quickly or cleverly enough, so we had to go into lockdown. By the time Johnson finally woke up to the magnitude of what was happening, it was too late to do anything else. If he'd attended some COBRA meetings in January and February maybe he'd have grasped it sooner.

This

Seriously. That’s your beef?

we’ve had huge upheaval and people are starving and you’re concerned about genitalia.

sst1234 · Today 14:13
Buckle up people. Now it’s time to pay for Rishi’s largesse when he borrowed and printed half a trillion pounds so that you could stay at home and bake banana bread and watch Netflix. Don’t remember anyone in these quarters complaining why healthy people were locked at home while the economy was being destroyed. Why so much rage at Rishi now?

agree with this

This a millions times over.

I think we know this, the point of public pressure is that if the demands from the public became overwhelming, they would "have" to call one.

if all the headlines today and tomorrow etc were "general election now" and leading newspapers were saying "we can't just let the Tories keep picking their fave every few weeks/months as the country's up the creek" - including places like The Times - and every interview ended up focusing on this, it would gather into an overwhelming storm and they would have to blooming well vote for it. The "constitution" such as it is is one thing, how things work is another.

Remember when there was a Fixed Terms Parliament act? That was only repealed this year but in the decade or so it existed I think we had at least 2 general elections called at the "wrong" time, so it was meaningless. That's just another example of the fact that these things are always much more flexible/changeable than they're made out.

It's always those lacking in intelligence who have ZERO evidence to support or defend their position.

If you still don't understand the UK is a Representative Parliamentary Democracy, then there's no hope for you. 🧐

You neither vote for a party nor the PM. Ever. You only vote for your local representative ie. MP

Everybody calling for a GE now would be better off supporting some kind of PR system (assuming they actually do support that, of course!). The issue is FPTP. The majority of people do not have their views represented equally in parliament.

Yeah, I don't get this.

I was very skeptical of the lockdowns, but at the same time, to a large extent I don't think the government had much choice. Apart from Sweden, it seemed like it was the medical community consensus, the media was pushing it as that, the public was scared, and the opposition wanted them to go further.

And once they did it, they had to mitigate financially, or people would really have been in trouble.

I think people somehow believed the financial aspect would not come home to roost. It's the same in many other countries too - they are now feeling the effects and people who were for it seem to think it's somehow it should be "fixed".

I blame some of it on the idea, which seemed popular on the left for a while around the time the pandemic started, that they could just put more money in the economy, indefinitely, with no downsides. Funnily I haven't heard much about that lately.

You are attacking a woman for not knowing what a woman is by calling her a 'silly bitch'? Catch yourself on.