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Rishi is PM - coronation, unelected -GE Now

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MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 24/10/2022 14:06

This is not democracy.

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derxa · 25/10/2022 23:14

CapMarvel · 25/10/2022 23:11

If you believe that any tory wants to do what is best for the country then good luck to you.

I do believe there are good people in all parties.

Charcy · 25/10/2022 23:14

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 24/10/2022 14:09

I'm not even a Labour supporter but can see your reasoning.

I believe in democracy, this isn't it.

Isn't it?

You don't vote for a PM. You vote for your local MP. If that MP leaves post, a by-election is held.

A knee jerk GE could be construed as non democratic.

justasking111 · 25/10/2022 23:54

Rishi happened to meet and marry into a rich family. Other MPs have done similar. His wife's father is alive and well so really we're talking about his money.

MangyInseam · 26/10/2022 00:11

Kissingfrogs25 · 25/10/2022 09:18

That is a very balanced and considered post. I am an optimist but honestly I can’t see a way out of this quagmire. There isn’t a good option - left or right. It could have been a softer landing than the one we are going to get, a gentler version I suppose. We are now going to have to grit our teeth somewhat.
And some.

I don't know if it would be softer. Maybe just different.

The options are limited.

We won't know till he produces it what he'll do, if a Labour government would do anything substantially different. But to me he seems like he's basically pragmatic.

mathanxiety · 26/10/2022 02:15

Oh yes the moment of truth has arrived, and mark my words pp celebrating his arrival need to quickly educate themselves on what he actually plans to do, the public are entirely unprepared for what is just about to happen. This thread is testament to that.

A short answer to your question, I believe the party is ungovernable, and things are just about to get much worse for almost everyone in our country as a result. Levelling up is kicked into the long grass. Expect things to get very ugly indeed.

@Kissingfrogs25
More than one nail smack dab on the head there. Well said.

Until the major parties wake up and realise what a massive own goal Brexit was, there will be no recovery from the mess. The frantic attempts to square the circle here - by means of upcoming drastic budgets, austerity, and piecemeal dismemberment of the public goods of the UK on one hand, and the tax breaks for the rich and the trickle down effect on the other - are just different ways of avoiding coming to terms with the truth.

[Guy] Hands said the prime minister, Liz Truss, had attempted to follow the “dream” of Brexit and a “low-tax, low-benefit economy”, but this “clearly isn’t something which is acceptable to the British people”.

He said that despite Truss’s brief attempt at introducing tax cuts through her ill-fated mini-budget, “the British people have never voted or even shown any inclination to vote for the extreme Thatcherism that Brexit needed”.

He continued: “Once you accept that you can’t actually do that, the Brexit that was done is completely hopeless and will only drive Britain into a disastrous economic state.”
www.theguardian.com/business/2022/oct/24/tory-backer-says-uk-economy-is-frankly-doomed-without-brexit-renegotiation

Yes, he skipped off to Guernsey to avoid UK tax levies. You can be right about things regardless of your personal morality. And apparently the Tories have no problem accepting his money.

ThirdTimeIsTheCharm · 26/10/2022 03:10

The dream of Brexit ....the nightmare rather

Dontwanttoberudeorwastetime · 26/10/2022 07:23

FixundFoxi · 25/10/2022 22:33

You like him ? How so ?
Because the tories don't engage in any kind of skullduggery ? Brexit being a perfect example of honest discussion of all the benefits and disadvantages🙄

I feel like this about labour too. There just isn’t a viable alternative for me so Rishi will do.

SuspiciousHedgehog · 26/10/2022 07:48

toomuchlaundry · 25/10/2022 23:00

Kier Starmer has a higher net worth than Boris but this doesn’t seem to bother people

Doubt it. More likely Boris hides his wealth off shore

derxa · 26/10/2022 08:03

SuspiciousHedgehog · 26/10/2022 07:48

Doubt it. More likely Boris hides his wealth off shore

I suspect that Boris is broke

TheNosehasit · 26/10/2022 08:11

derxa · 26/10/2022 08:03

I suspect that Boris is broke

Babies everywhere😆

SuspiciousHedgehog · 26/10/2022 08:15

TheNosehasit · 26/10/2022 08:11

Babies everywhere😆

He won't be once his dad karks

And if Starmer has money, it's coz he made it as a lawyer.

TheNosehasit · 26/10/2022 08:17

SuspiciousHedgehog · 26/10/2022 08:15

He won't be once his dad karks

And if Starmer has money, it's coz he made it as a lawyer.

Did he bore the jury to death? 😂

SuspiciousHedgehog · 26/10/2022 08:18

TheNosehasit · 26/10/2022 08:17

Did he bore the jury to death? 😂

Possibly 😂

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 26/10/2022 08:19

derxa · 26/10/2022 08:03

I suspect that Boris is broke

What, broke in the sense that he might have to think twice about going on another holiday if he can't find somebody to pay for his accommodation and travel, or broke in the way that many in the UK are facing this winter, turning off the heating and having to rely on food banks?

TheNosehasit · 26/10/2022 08:20

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 26/10/2022 08:19

What, broke in the sense that he might have to think twice about going on another holiday if he can't find somebody to pay for his accommodation and travel, or broke in the way that many in the UK are facing this winter, turning off the heating and having to rely on food banks?

Broke in comparison to Starmer, Boris, Truss and Sunak. He's the pauper of the bunch.

TheNosehasit · 26/10/2022 08:22

TheNosehasit · 26/10/2022 08:20

Broke in comparison to Starmer, Boris, Truss and Sunak. He's the pauper of the bunch.

Why do you think his parties involved BYOB? 😂

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 26/10/2022 08:22

TheNosehasit · 26/10/2022 08:22

Why do you think his parties involved BYOB? 😂

😀

TheNosehasit · 26/10/2022 08:25

Imagine being Boris' PA. Hey - drinks this evening - organise that? - Hey - thanks NOSE for organising this - perfectly organised - fancy a drink? who is paying?

vera99 · 26/10/2022 08:27

sst1234 · 25/10/2022 22:55

Yes, so they’re rich. What’s your point? Is this news to you?

Super rich amongst the richest in the land richer than the King rich - hence his name "Richie".... So rich he will never need to use state schools, the NHS, shop in the same shops that we do face the same problems that we do and will protect and reflect the views, politics and outlook of the rich. He is in the top 0.1% and whatever begrudging sympathy I had for his 'talents' he has squandered them in appointing Rwanda-Chrismas-dreaming Suella "Buddhist sex cult" Braverman to Home Secretary. So that's my point.

And if Sir Keir is currently slightly richer than Johnson it's because he has spaffed all his money up the wall on expensive divorces and numerous children some of which he has disowned. Whereas Sir Keir rose to the best barrister of his generation. a hugely respected DPP and has remained loyally married to his NHS occupational nurse wife and two children without a whiff of corruption or affairs and pay all their tax owed in this country. A good old-fashioned honest man, citizen, husband, father and politician. Something most of the Tory party has left far behind.

vera99 · 26/10/2022 08:28

derxa · 26/10/2022 08:03

I suspect that Boris is broke

Morally for sure and always have been.

TheNosehasit · 26/10/2022 08:30

vera99 · 26/10/2022 08:28

Morally for sure and always have been.

I don't think he's malicious though.

Croque · 26/10/2022 08:32

People are having real trouble accepting that a brown person is also a wealthy, right wing Tory. He would not get the flack if he was elected to lead the other party.

Quirkyme · 26/10/2022 08:33

Croque · 26/10/2022 08:32

People are having real trouble accepting that a brown person is also a wealthy, right wing Tory. He would not get the flack if he was elected to lead the other party.

This.

For real.

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 26/10/2022 08:33

And if Sir Keir is currently slightly richer than Johnson it's because he has spaffed all his money up the wall on expensive divorces and numerous children some of which he has disowned.

Mmm, I don't think it's news to anyone that multiple divorces and children everywhere aren't great for your net worth.

Croque · 26/10/2022 08:34

Sir Keir rose to the best barrister of his generation

I would not be so sure about that one.

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