Rishi is PM - coronation, unelected -GE Now

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This is not democracy.

Bloody hell, great let's wheel another PM in and see what happens in the next few weeks/months

What does Sunak know about your average working person?

He's married to a billionaire/heiress, who incidentally doesn't pay tax or similar

We didn't elect him, it was default after Boris and Mordant pulled out

General election now please!

People will unfortunately have to suck it up. If you vote for a Tory then you'll likely get Tory ideology despite how affable one of their MPs seems or if their jingoism stirs emotions.

If you don't understand the electoral system in this country then you shouldn't vote.

The risk was always there when voting for Boris because he's the type of person you'd prefer to have a drink down the pub with. I mean people could have looked past him and the had a look at the cabinet or recent history to see what was likely to happen.

Like it or not , Truss had a wider mandate than Sunak.
Her resignation speech was very revealing. Essentially , she was unable to fulfill the promises of Brexit , which she was elected to deliver.

The Party changed the rules for the election of her successor. The membership would be excluded as far as possible , in case , as one anonymous MP put it ' they elect another loony'.

So we learn two things. 1. Brexit cannot be delivered at least in its current form. 2. The MPs do not trust their own party membership.

Now Rishi is a smart guy. And he is a real Brexit supporter. So how does he square the circle. He knows you can't bin the Northern Ireland Protocol. The European Research Group are still labouring under this delusion though. Will they really ' explode the government ' in Steve Baker's words?

It's not just fabout the rich either.

I've earned income from a country which is not the one I live in. Not astronomical income, rather shitty poorly paid income.

I don't want to pay full taxes in both countries either!

Am sure I'll be swiftly corrected about the not paying tax thing, it's perfectly legal

Well I'm sure it's probably a loophole, conveniently approved by those in power!

I hope he doesn't give her anything.

Yep that's 100/% correct!

Average age of death due to covid was 82.4 higher than average life expectancy let that sink in 🤣.

This
It's happened under labour and conservative
It's actually a key part of our democracy
We can choose to change it, but I bet labour wouldn't if they were in power
I get the sentiment, but it's a pointless argument

Loathe that phrase but anyway not on mn probably, or not giving a stuff on S&B.

Blair / Brown was ages ago. I recall something about Brown calling a woman a bigot that got people going more than the handover

May more recently.. I was likely more annoyed that Cameron had the audacity to quit after the referendum than May rocking up

Who should have been selected?

I'm amazed at the people still wanging on about the lockdowns. If you were in the US you'd all be proudly wearing MAGA hats.

If you want a look at what happens when built up areas with decent public transport systems don't lock down (i.e. most of the UK) I suggest the example of New York City in the early days of covid.

It wasn’t on MN - it was in the wider media. There was a whole will they won’t they for Brown (he was pasted for “bottling it”) and May (who said no election then called one after a walking weekend and then lost it).

the issue this time is the weapons grade cock up made by the conservative. People want an election because they’ve run out of road.

Pfft. You were never offered PR - just some hideously complex list system.

Single Transferable Vote is very proportional. And you don't get a huge majority on 4/10 votes.

You get a lot of coalitions and people have to work out a consensus. It's not a magic bullet. But it is a start. Seems to work in most places.

WE DON'T ELECT THE PRIME MINISTER IN THE UK. Just get over it

Personally I'm looking forward to see what Rishi brings to the table to sort out the issues caused by.. checks notes

Oh

How can a consultant doctor on 300k a year know what it's like to have a sick child?

Should we go down the Jobcentre and start recruiting a PM there? They'll surely understand what it's like and do a good job as PM?

Seriously?

I am a Conservative Party member. I was disappointed that Liz Truss was elected as leader. I voted for Rishi Sunak. If Penny Mordaunt had been an option this time I would have voted for Rishi Sunak. I am white British. I believe that the wider membership should not be able to vote in the party leader. Michael Howard tried to get that changed but was unfortunately unsuccessful.

I don’t think he’s going to last long!
The gammons in the Tory party- of which there are many, are frothing at the idea of an Asian leading their party.
The comments on Twitter about Sunak are grim.
I don’t think it’s going to go well! .

We just need rid of the Tories from government. They are just shuffling a pack of inadequate and have reduced this country to chaos. They cannot govern their own party effectively - how ridiculous to imagine they can govern this country well.
We have had 12 years of their bad decisions - the mess that needs cleaning up is theirs.
A General Election is essential - let the country decide.

I just did a quick tally and even if you just look at the last 100 years, the Tories have spent twice as long in power as the Labour Party. That's most probably why, since Labour has twice as many black and Asian MPs, and since 51% of Labour MPs elected in 2019 were women, compared with 24% of Conservative MPs.

And I don't even vote Labour!! Just a fan of numbers.

I know several (although obviously not all) and they voted for Truss because they didn’t consider Sunak British enough.

I think that putting it to members again would have been a mistake

False equivalence!!!!

It wouldn’t be a problem if Rishi Sunak actually demonstrated he listened and understood what it’s like to be on an average salary. Then we wouldn’t care whether he wore Prada.

However, he doesn’t listen, and just spouts on about “tough choices” etc. that’s the danger of having governments who are surrounded by and lobbied by very rich and powerful people. They get out of touch even though they’re voted in by citizens, not banks or corporations.

Of course not. Liz Truss was trounced by the technocrats

hang on a minute what Consultants are getting 300k?? I need to tell Dh he’s only being paid a third of what he should be!!