Rishi is PM - coronation, unelected -GE Now

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This is not democracy.

I'm not white. This might blow your mind but quite a few Mumsnetters aren't either. 😝

But "any old Joe" hasn't voted for our new Conservative party leader. Nobody voted as there was only one candidate. He was elected by default.

Right so the lies, corruption, sexual misconduct and trashing the economy were all fine so what is it now that has made you cancel your membership?....why didn't you do that when Johnson et al metaphorically pissed all over the graves of the many 1000's of people who died during 2020/2021? were you still a "proud Tory" then?

@AIMummy

Fr. I said the exact same thing.

The person who wrote that really thought they did something writing that 😅😅😅

Is that you Liz???

(Sorry, tongue in cheek. Couldn't resist. As you were.)

@AIMummy Not all Tory`s are white either, despite what MN trolls might think. Destroys the illusion doesn't it😂

I think its quite astonishing that the political party to have the first female , then a PoC, Prime minister is Conservative, not Labour.

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No it doesn't blow my mind. I'm not either. It's hardly a gotcha card. Although accusing people of racism for criticising someone's behaviour is stinking. It doesn't reflect well.

I want a GE but not because I feel this "isn't democracy".

I want one because I feel that the Tory party is incapable of governing right now and, if they actually cared about the country, they'd call a GE knowing Labour would win and take the five years out to get their shit together.

They won't actually do that though, obviously.

You mean the same Tories, who have enjoyed 3 female PMs and now an ethnic minority PM? I don't think it's Tory voters, who are having a problem with this appointment.

How can anyone who is worth 730 million pound able to have an inkling of how we feel and what are day to day worries are.

Oh for the love of god!
I am no Tory, but their senior teams have historically been far more diverse- both in terms of sex and ethnicity - than Labour ever has.

That's quite interesting you find it "astonishing", I wonder why?

That argument is often used for a certain rhetoric.

I dont find it surprising at all. Anyone who knows how the unions threw women under the bus over equal pay for decades or how they treat minority communities wouldn't be surprised either.

I'm not a tory. But I dont think they are any more racist or sexist than the Labour party.

Luckily the nation does not revolve around what you want and how you feel!

It might be that demographics were what meant that some of the other candidates were white.

More than 85% of the population is white. Out of three, how many would you expect not to be white?

I'm really confused why everyone who'd rather Rishi wasn't prime minister is being accused of being racist...

As if there aren't 1 million more justifiable reasons for people to not want him to be in charge...

I'm actually glad it's him. He should have easily beaten Truss. I'm white and I voted Tory in the last election. Your skin colour doesn't make you a good or bad prime minister. Nor does your religion or your heritage.

I have no doubt that it would still have gone to Rishi as he is more in line with Liz than Penny. It's not the point though. Kemi was a very popular choice for the members. I think she would have beaten Liz Truss and Rishi had she made the final few last time.

I'm bemused that you find it interesting that I'm astonished

Imagine the outrage when Labour don't get in at the next election. There seems to be a few mind readers here, who caterically state Labour would romp home.

Keir is ok then? A mere £7.7m net worth

Maybe you need to reflect on why that is, if you find it astonishing. My personal view is that Tories are less interested in the person the leader is, and more what they think (s)he will do for them. How else could you explain the elections of John Major, William Hague, Ian Duncan Smith, Theresa May or Liz Truss? Not a single personality between them.

With Labour, they are more likely to elect the person they like more as a person. Given the traditional Labour heartland it's no surprise that the favoured candidates are white and male. There is of course a large Labour element in inner cities which means ethnic minority candidates get elected, but the wider party is northern and white.

If this is a reflection on how the majority think democracy should work then we're all fucked. Let's hope that doesn't turn round and bite you in the arse one day.

There is a big difference between the governing party choosing a new PM who wants to adopt a new manifesto that has never been put to the people, and an opposition party choosing to put whoever the hell they want forward to the country for the coutnry to accept or reject.

I don't know why people say that. The CP is going to be disadvantaged by certain things - mainly having been in power so long. But you can't call an election two years ahead. Anything could happen.