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Rishi is PM - coronation, unelected -GE Now

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MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 24/10/2022 14:06

This is not democracy.

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MissyB1 · 24/10/2022 15:19

Stars71 · 24/10/2022 15:12

Did you claim furlough? Be careful with your argument, if you benefitted from any concessions, during lock down.

Who says that all furloughed people wanted to be furloughed? I sure as fuck didn’t want to be! And no I didn’t get my full wages, there was no “top up” from the greedy bastards I was working for. And in fact they for were just blatantly taking advantage of the scheme. And they knew they could, no one was going to stop them. They literally made a profit from it!

Frazzled2207 · 24/10/2022 15:19

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 24/10/2022 15:12

BBC reporting, btw, that Sunak has just told Tory MPs behind closed doors that there won't be a general election. So regardless of what you think about that, we're stuck with this bunch for another two years.

Of course he said that. It only takes a couple of dozen tories to vote with Labour on a VONC to trigger one.

RishyWashy · 24/10/2022 15:20

AIMummy · 24/10/2022 15:17

Ha! Spot on!

Not spot on. Pack it in with your racism white people. No one is above criticism, especially when their behaviour is piss poor

GoldenCupidon · 24/10/2022 15:21

Frazzled2207 · 24/10/2022 15:17

Those parroting that a GE is not necessary- when both Theresa May and Boris Johnson became leader in similar circumstances they both called a general election, which, to be fair, they both won. They both rightly realised that they needed an electoral mandate in order to govern.

Mo way does Rishi Sunak have this.

and he won’t call a GE, just because he’ll lose.

Yes that's a really good point.

Isitsixoclockalready · 24/10/2022 15:21

sst1234 · 24/10/2022 14:10

Why is it not democracy? Were you living in some parallel political system in 2019 where you voted for a PM rather than you local MP?

It's the manifesto though isn't it. They were elected on a specific manifesto but that has changed with every subsequent leader so it would actually be appropriate to have an election.

Gymnopedie · 24/10/2022 15:22

Was also going to make the point about Tony Blair stepping down and Gordon Brown taking over as PM. Did they even have an election for leader, I can't honestly remember?*

And as for furlough. If we were going to go into lockdown - which most countries did and many people complained that it was lifted too early - what was he supposed to do. Imagine the uproar if either there had been no furlough or he had said employers had to go on paying wages. he was hailed a hero for furlough when he first announced it.

I carry no torch for RS, but at least he understands the economy. He knew what the consequence of furlough would be.

There has to be financial pain now, whoever is in charge and whichever party, however much Labour would like to claim they'd be different. Otherwise we're up shit creek even further than we are now.

^I've just looked it up. Brown got 313 nominations from MPs, the other challenger, John McDonnell got 29. Pretty much a coronation.

Stars71 · 24/10/2022 15:22

The irony of the principle of democracy being shouted out. Democracy, when it suits. If you're saying this appointment is undemocratic, where did you stand when Brown was appointed PM? If your values are so entrenched in democracy, why do you still not accept Brexit, 6 years on?

Hang on, I'm talking to Labour voters. 🙄

MissHavishamsMouldyOldCake · 24/10/2022 15:23

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 24/10/2022 15:12

BBC reporting, btw, that Sunak has just told Tory MPs behind closed doors that there won't be a general election. So regardless of what you think about that, we're stuck with this bunch for another two years.

Well yes, of course he's saying that. But events might overtake him. So let's see where we are in 6 months time.

Worriedddd · 24/10/2022 15:23

DamnUserName21 · 24/10/2022 15:19

Should he have done nothing? Let businesses go bust, not supported those with furlough, not tried to stimulate spending with EOTHO...

seriously, what should any chancellor have done?

Clinically vulnerable should have isolated and locked down. Healthy people should have been told you are going to have to work.

Kicking the can down the road of money printing and low interest rates after the 2008 crash. The interventionist policies make the recovery much more painful and expensive. The average age of death for COVID was 83 , higher than the average life expectancy in total . We fucked up the entire economy for that.

Spanielsarepainless · 24/10/2022 15:24

Nor was Gordon Brown. He was 'crowned' by Tony Blair.

Pineappleblueberry · 24/10/2022 15:24

@Namechangeforthis88 100 percent agree

Lalalolol · 24/10/2022 15:24

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 24/10/2022 14:06

This is not democracy.

And it was when Liz Truss became PM?

Suemademedoit · 24/10/2022 15:24

BMW6 · 24/10/2022 14:29

His wife has ALWAYS PAID TAX IN ACCORDANCE WITH UK TAX LEGISLATION.

I worked for HMRC for over 30 years. I am familiar with the rules of Domicile and Residency as regards Income Tax.

I know what I'm talking about. You haven't a bloody clue 🙄🙄

The irony, of course, being that the legislation that Mrs Sunak avails of was put to parliament and passed by....wealthy white men, for their personal benefit! She is availing of exactly the same laws in exactly the same way. The general population needs some education on WHY and HOW the concept of domicile exists. I'm sure it'll be a shock to most.

Stars71 · 24/10/2022 15:25

MissyB1 · 24/10/2022 15:19

Who says that all furloughed people wanted to be furloughed? I sure as fuck didn’t want to be! And no I didn’t get my full wages, there was no “top up” from the greedy bastards I was working for. And in fact they for were just blatantly taking advantage of the scheme. And they knew they could, no one was going to stop them. They literally made a profit from it!

You had financial help, so what's the problem? If you had been denied anything, I could see your point.

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 24/10/2022 15:25

Stars71 · 24/10/2022 14:35

That's what you would like to think. English isn't a race.

Saying that somebody isn't English when they were BORN in England and LIVE in England - but just happen to be of Asian heritage - is racist.

RishyWashy · 24/10/2022 15:27

Lalalolol · 24/10/2022 15:24

And it was when Liz Truss became PM?

At least Liz was voted in by the membership democratically. Even if the process of who actually gets to stand via the mps is questionable.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 24/10/2022 15:27

Blossomtoes · 24/10/2022 15:18

It's not democracy for the Tory membership.

Tough. They had their chance and nearly destroyed our economy with their choice. They’re clearly not to be trusted.

This, in spades!

Stars71 · 24/10/2022 15:28

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 24/10/2022 15:25

Saying that somebody isn't English when they were BORN in England and LIVE in England - but just happen to be of Asian heritage - is racist.

No it's not. That's like me saying all those of you complaining on this thread are racist. Don't you like the colour of Sunak's skin? You love to just call out racism because it makes you feel superior. You virtue signallers never fail to trip yourselves up.

Kissingfrogs25 · 24/10/2022 15:29

Well at 2pm the U.K. officially became a technocratic state - Just like that.
Sunak LOST just a few weeks ago.
We now live in a world where men in grey suits choose our PMs.
So I will come together with my fellow Labour supporters and also demand an election. I care more about the democracy of this country than I do about any party.

Give it a few days/weeks when the Johnson and Truss supporters turn on this backstabber and we will get our wish. It’s the end of the party as we know it.

Its an outrage to strip the country of our democracy, an unforgiving exhausted electorate will not forget this moment any time soon.

BigWoollyJumpers · 24/10/2022 15:30

You know - setting aside politics, state of the country etc etc, for just one small moment:

Rishi Sunak is the only leader in Europe who is from an ethnic minority, a person of colour.

Just scrolling through the European council, most are old white men. A couple of token women. I am assuming they are all Christian. No-one of colour.

I think that for this alone we should have a small celebration that it is possible in this country to have an ethnic minority leader.

Etinoxaurus · 24/10/2022 15:30

Namechangeforthis88 · 24/10/2022 14:19

On the plus side, DFIL is going into orbit over this.

Every cloud!😅

IlonaRN · 24/10/2022 15:30

BMW6 · 24/10/2022 14:29

His wife has ALWAYS PAID TAX IN ACCORDANCE WITH UK TAX LEGISLATION.

I worked for HMRC for over 30 years. I am familiar with the rules of Domicile and Residency as regards Income Tax.

I know what I'm talking about. You haven't a bloody clue 🙄🙄

His wife paid to be registered as non-domiciled in this country. Yes, her father was deemed to be domiciled in India at the time of her birth, and therefore her domicile of origin is India.

However, a non-domiciled person is someone who has their permanent home outside of the UK. Therefore, it would be assumed that by being registered as non-domiciled here, Mrs Sunak is not intending to stay here. As they are a family, that would mean that Mr Sunak would also not be intending to stay here.

I'm sure Mrs Sunak paid what she needed to as a non-dom, and it is clear that her domicile of origin was not the UK, but the issue is more whether she really is intending to move back to India. I am surprised that nobody has asked her/Mr Sunak that directly, in the circumstances.

Having someone as the PM or even Chancellor who does not intend to make this his (and his family's) permanent home suggests that, actually, they would not necessarily act in the country's best interests.

Lalalolol · 24/10/2022 15:30

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 24/10/2022 14:10

The financial mess that he created?

He didnt. Covid did. Would you prefer pound taking Liz? Markets have reacted positively to Rishi being PM.

He just got elected today. Did Bojo called for elections the day he got elected? Or is it that Rishi's skin colour making you see things differently this time?

WeepingSomnambulist · 24/10/2022 15:30

Stars71 · 24/10/2022 15:28

No it's not. That's like me saying all those of you complaining on this thread are racist. Don't you like the colour of Sunak's skin? You love to just call out racism because it makes you feel superior. You virtue signallers never fail to trip yourselves up.

What are you talking about?

Making a judgement about someone because of the colour of their skin is racism.

To say that an English person is not really English because they have brown skin, is racist. You're deciding they cannot be english because they're not white, and only white people can really be english.

That is the definition of racism. Saying that Sunak is not English because his skin is brown is literally the definition of racism.

RishyWashy · 24/10/2022 15:31

Worriedddd · 24/10/2022 15:23

Clinically vulnerable should have isolated and locked down. Healthy people should have been told you are going to have to work.

Kicking the can down the road of money printing and low interest rates after the 2008 crash. The interventionist policies make the recovery much more painful and expensive. The average age of death for COVID was 83 , higher than the average life expectancy in total . We fucked up the entire economy for that.

This. And now Rishis back. To create even more destruction on people. Whilst at the end of the day he can relax and go for a nice swim in his heated pool, or kick back and enjoy one of his many very expensive residences.

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