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Liz Truss has resigned. Part 4: The Desolation of Boris

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sunnydaytoday0 · 23/10/2022 23:21

Continuation from last thread, for those of us following all the action on Monday.

And yes I'm a LOTR fan, so tried to continue the theme in the thread title 😉

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User123758 · 24/10/2022 13:13

again, she should back out for the sake of stability. She can’t legitimately say she’s the one who will unite the party when sunak currently has 194 public backers to her 28

MarshaBradyo · 24/10/2022 13:13

User123758 · 24/10/2022 13:13

again, she should back out for the sake of stability. She can’t legitimately say she’s the one who will unite the party when sunak currently has 194 public backers to her 28

Absolutely

It’s absurd and shows ego over stability

Lonelycrab · 24/10/2022 13:15

Late Placemarking. So glad that this hopefully is the end of Johnson, politically. Hope also Mogg is relegated to the back benches and we don’t have to look at his awful mug in the news anymore, spouting his nonsense.

Hmmph · 24/10/2022 13:18

Guido Fawkes now has RS with 201 vs PM on 31 (196 vs 28 names MPs)

boys3 · 24/10/2022 13:19

Hmmph · 24/10/2022 12:27

ERG are scary. Party within a party. Hopefully they'll all lose their seats at the next GE too.

Who actually votes for JRM??

JRM North East Somerset parliamentary constituency. A decent turnout area 73% to 76% in the four elections from 2010.

in 2019 he got 50.4% of the vote, interestingly down a bit as compared with 2017 when he was nearer 54%. Labour and Lib Dem 24.2% and 22.1% in 2019 leaving just 3.3% of the vote elsewhere. 2017 saw Labour 2nd with 34.7% and LDs a distant third with 8.3%. So if we want shot of JRM at the next GE one of Lab and LD probably needs to stand aside. Rather I should say if the voters of his constituency want shot of him they need to both turn out vote and vote tactically.

emeraldjones · 24/10/2022 13:25

Slightly concerned as lots of people resigned their party membership when Liz Truss got in. If it goes to a run off, the voting will be skewed to the right.

boys3 · 24/10/2022 13:27

Although having posted all about his constituency it looks like it is changing a fair bit with the proposed boundary commission changes. Keynsham and North East Somerset looks more favourable to Labour.

Hmmph · 24/10/2022 13:27

Great stats Boys3.

I just googled the constituency and found it contains Keynsham – spelt K-E-Y-N-S-H-A-M. Which reminds me of my Dad who always quoted that!

MarshaBradyo · 24/10/2022 13:28

If Sunak gets it today at least Truss can be let off PMQs

CaveMum · 24/10/2022 13:29

We should know where things stand by 2.15 at the latest.

If she can’t scrape 100 that’s Penny’s career over for now surely - her credibility when her team are claiming they’re all but home and dry would be toast.

MissHavishamsMouldyOldCake · 24/10/2022 13:30

She's done reality TV before so clearly a fan of self-promotion. She must think the longer she hangs on the higher name recognition she'll have with the public.

CaveMum · 24/10/2022 13:31

George Freeman MP has now switched his vote from Penny to Rishi entirely, rather than just “urging for unity”.

derxa · 24/10/2022 13:41

Place marking with the plea that people spell Keir Starmer's name properly. He's the one you want for PM after all.
Kier is a construction company www.kier.co.uk/
Keir is a politician en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keir_Starmer

Hmmph · 24/10/2022 13:43

derxa · 24/10/2022 13:41

Place marking with the plea that people spell Keir Starmer's name properly. He's the one you want for PM after all.
Kier is a construction company www.kier.co.uk/
Keir is a politician en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keir_Starmer

Oops.

I before e except after c. And in Keir!

boys3 · 24/10/2022 13:44

Another word cloud our. This time for Rishi

another four letter word trumps all others.

unlike for Boris it is not liar, but rather rich

Liar does feature but to a much lesser extent

CaveMum · 24/10/2022 13:46

They must have all voted by now. Surely no one leaves it till the last 15 minutes!

boys3 · 24/10/2022 13:47

I was surprised Playmobil dot not feature. That’s what he most reminds me of - a playmobil figure.

Hmmph · 24/10/2022 13:48

Nearly there ...

GCAcademic · 24/10/2022 13:49

CaveMum · 24/10/2022 13:46

They must have all voted by now. Surely no one leaves it till the last 15 minutes!

It's not a vote at this stage, it's names on a nomination paper for each candidate and MPs don't need to put their names down. The vote comes later this afternoon, if there are two candidates.

FourForYouGlenCocoYouGoGlenCoco · 24/10/2022 13:50

Just seen this on the Guardian’s live politics blog - it says Boris did have enough MP nominations to stand in the leadership contest, if he’d wanted to.

It makes no sense to me, then, why he withdrew. Out of him, Mordaunt and Sunak, I think he’d be most popular with the party members if the contest then went to a members’ vote.

I can only assume he withdrew because he wanted to prove to himself he could still get the support he needed to be PM again, but he thinks now isn’t the right time to be PM as he’ll have a lot of challenging issues on his plate to deal with! So he’s happy for Sunak or Mordaunt to clean up the current mess of issues as best they can, then when everyone’s fed up of Sunak or Mordaunt, he’ll stand again for party leader in 2024 (or before!) and sweep to victory. Ugh.

FourForYouGlenCocoYouGoGlenCoco · 24/10/2022 13:50

Sorry forgot to attach the photo from the Guardian live blog (and link to blog here: www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2022/oct/24/uk-politics-live-rishi-sunak-penny-mordaunt-boris-johnson-withdrawal-nominations-deadline-tory-leadership-contest-race#top-of-blog).

Liz Truss has resigned. Part 4: The Desolation of Boris
hesbeingabitofadick · 24/10/2022 13:51

CaveMum · 24/10/2022 13:46

They must have all voted by now. Surely no one leaves it till the last 15 minutes!

People do for local and general elections.
🤷‍♀️

GCAcademic · 24/10/2022 13:53

When will we hear? 2.00pm sharpish, or will there be a meeting of the 1922 first?

CaveMum · 24/10/2022 13:53

Sorry yes I used the incorrect wording, I meant nominate rather than vote! Tom-ay-to, Tom-aa-to 😜

Thatsasmashingblouseyouvegoton · 24/10/2022 13:53

FourForYouGlenCocoYouGoGlenCoco · 24/10/2022 13:50

Just seen this on the Guardian’s live politics blog - it says Boris did have enough MP nominations to stand in the leadership contest, if he’d wanted to.

It makes no sense to me, then, why he withdrew. Out of him, Mordaunt and Sunak, I think he’d be most popular with the party members if the contest then went to a members’ vote.

I can only assume he withdrew because he wanted to prove to himself he could still get the support he needed to be PM again, but he thinks now isn’t the right time to be PM as he’ll have a lot of challenging issues on his plate to deal with! So he’s happy for Sunak or Mordaunt to clean up the current mess of issues as best they can, then when everyone’s fed up of Sunak or Mordaunt, he’ll stand again for party leader in 2024 (or before!) and sweep to victory. Ugh.

The markets would crash further and he will likely be suspended once the investigation inti partygate concludes...

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