Would you vote conservative again?

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I wouldn’t vote conservative again after the total shambles that have been the last 12 years. They’re constantly infighting rather than sorting out the economy and have left the NHS in a total mess. No care for people suffering from the cost of living crisis

Yes because

1. Labour haven’t got their sodding act together over gender ideology. If they got in there would be a lot of fighting over this issue on top of everything else that needs handling.

2. My local Tory MP is doing a really good job for my local area.

We still pay the same tax - only now it goes in the pockets of the wealthy tory supporters and people making profit out what should be public sector functions. Rather than improving peoples lives and chances.

At least tax credits kept people working so they can carry on when the kids are grown up.

Lammy is a racist
Racist?
I listen to David Lammy every week on LBC and I've never detected any racism. He's always come across as a thoroughly decent human being.

I disagree. She seemed to be enjoying herself far too much to be tapped into the public mood. The Commons is not a school pantomime production even though it may seem that way sometimes.

I won’t vote Labour because I have 2 DC at private school and can’t afford an extra 20% VAT on school fees. Speaking to the vast majority of parents at DC’s school, they also can’t afford an extra 20% on fees. I don’t understand how Labour think they will fund an extra 600,000 kids in state school, when they won’t actually raise any extra funding from VAT because so many parents will withdraw their kids and schools will close.

@caringcarer are you an expert in health economics ? And your comment about insurance for NHS staff is ridiculous. You have heard of vicarious liability then ?
Such mixed up and uniformed thinking. Pretty much like the EU needs us more than we need them 🙄

Possibly/ probably. But then I don't believe in being tribal about politics. As always, I would look at the manifesto of each party and make a decision. I have voted for, I think, 3 different parties over the years.
It also depends on whether tactical voting is relevant, ie in a marginal seat. Where I live, it only ever tends to go one way, so my vote could feel wasted - but I always vote, because I don't think we should give up those rights that other people died to achieve.

Labour have plenty of policies - they won't give details of manifesto promises till nearer an election as the tories nick the popular ones.
But there's plenty on social media about what they stand for if you go and look.
It won't be in the papers as they are mosttly right wing owned.

Isitsixoclockalready

And this?

Rachel Reeves has said that Labour would reinstate the 45% top rate of income tax to fund “the biggest expansion of medical school places in British history doubling the number of places so we have the doctors we need in our NHS”.

The tax cut was an 'unfunded tax cut' but Rachel Reeves was going to spend the money anyway.

Labour did not ever need to start clowning over gender ideology. They should have stuck to the serious issues of the day and left all that to the Lib Dems.

Some people would continue to vote Tory even if they went around raping and pillaging. It's a religion. It defies logic and therefore these threads are pointless.

Unlikely, the entire annual budget for the NHS is around £100bn

The SNP do not need to run an independence campaign people look at how the Tories have fucked us all and think yep independence is the answer 🤦‍♀️.
I will vote again to try and keep independence from happening but I feel very much like an 'orphan voter'😩.

I've had breast cancer recently. Quick efficient treatment. A CV vaccine induced skin complaint. Now in remission. My DH has all sorts of issues which need monitoring. Good service. We would both be dead if it wasn't for the NHS. Just sayin'.

Tbf I'm passed caring.
The country is in deep shit. People keep on voting the same way however inept the ruling party is. Their political views will never change because of anything they read on here. The cost of living crisis really hasn't hit yet, austerity mark 2 is round the corner, interest rates are predicted to climb, millions of people will witness their quality of life plummet. Most countries would give the opposition a chance in those circumstances but not here. It's like we are welded to them for some unfathomable reason. I say vote how you want but accept that that vote has wide reaching consequences and it might just bite you on the arse this time.

Genuinely pleased for you.

My DP has recently been hospitalised twice by the GP (once was advised an ambulance waiting time of 18 hours with oxygen levels in 60’s) with suspected heart failure and has been given a telephone appointment with a cardiologist for December 2023. I would say we’re clearly at different ends of extremes but I know there are people experiencing worse than that.

Whereas my long standing pain was diagnosed and treated at a weekend clinic within 8 weeks of a rheumatology referral after physio failed.
I wouldn't even get a referral now as my pain is not auto inmune/disease based. But I had a load of stuff ruled out and then a diagnosis.
I have an elderly relatives spent no less than 12 hours in A and E waiting for admission last year. Several times - discharged too soon and boomeranging back in as a result.
If they were to experience that this year I think they may have died.
I work in the public sector - we are on our knees - I don't blame health staff they are working in intolerable circumstances and I'm not surprised there are issues.

I've never voted for them because in my lifetime they have only caused damage to the country. Labour are not great but do less damage so they get my vote. It's a shame we've become a two party system where neither party is good.

Incorrect information.
Total spend on health and social care is £200 billion.
The NHS spend was £136-150 billion.
Kings fund.
Posters mention critical thinking. Can we start by stating correct figures and not implicating the Tories in situations that have absolutely nothing to do with government policies.
Reading the thread and others it's clear most people cannot even assess or articulate accurately the world around them.

They wouldn’t have had to if the tories had managed the debate at its inception - during their Twelve years in power.

I'm really amazed that people still believe that stuff about the "no money left" note.

Such a shame I agree. It’s not required but they don’t seem keen to drop it.

@FixundFoxi Thats how I feel tbh.
I post on here but I know it won't make a difference. Nor in real life - so I don't bother now. I point out what I feel was better undet labour and leave it at that. I don't understand why anyone who was against brexit would vote tory though - but they seem to be able to forgive that more easily than anything labour have ever done/said - even if it was years ago and no longer relevant!

Labour want to erase hard won women’s sex-based rights so they will not get my vote.

Same. We have a labour MP atm but it's not a safe seat.