Would you vote conservative again?

[Erica56]

I wouldn’t vote conservative again after the total shambles that have been the last 12 years. They’re constantly infighting rather than sorting out the economy and have left the NHS in a total mess. No care for people suffering from the cost of living crisis

The country's in the mess it because of the Conservatives.

This

I'm a Tory but couldn't bring myself to vote for the clown that is Boris Johnson 😂 I voted LibDem then and most likely will again next time. The current party is a shambles and I don't want them in power any more.

You sound like an SNP indy fan, using insults instead of intelligent discussion.

Other alternatives than labour do exist.

I seriously question anyone who looks at the utter shambles the tories have made of government and still considers them deserving of their vote.

People who immediately resort to insults because someone has a different opinion to them are so immature 🙄

And usually on the left

I really hope you don’t. I will be voting Labour in Scotland, the only hope of holding back Sturgeon.

I have voted Labour and Conservative. You are kidding yourself if you think Labour are not a nasty party as well. Tbh, if you get a left leaning conservative leader you have more or less the same budget that Rachel Reeves has set out and remember, they were also going to bring in the tax cut that sent matters into a tail spin.

On Question Time, an audience member commented she was ashamed of both parties baying and humiliating one another and the Labour rep took it personally and made digs at the lady concerned throughout the rest of the programme. She didn't have the awareness to see she was being a bully herself and that the audience member was spot on - about both sides.

I am afraid of Labour because of Angela Raynor and her barely concealed hatred. I don't think she can stand Keir Starmer, she is imposed upon him and the left despise him. Hardly a good start. Did she not say when asked why there were no female Labour Leaders, she said she was the Labour leader or words to that effect?

With the conservatives, when Therese Coffey was appointed, well that was it for me. So that leaves me in no man's land. Therese Coffey and Angela Raynor just think about it.

The NHS (which until recently I'd worked in for 20 years) has significantly deteriorated under the last 12 years of Conservative government. Waiting times, staff morale, the impact of people waiting 100s of days to leave hospital if they need care are all much much worse. That's exacerbated but not caused by the pandemic.

As a patient, I remember the massive difference the waiting Time targets brought in under Labour made.

I think they are doing some things right. Their patient safety strategy is exciting. But it's not fair to say the NHS was just as bad under Labour. It wasn't.

I had no involvement in primary education during the Labour years but I'd love to know whether my son (8) would have been in a class of 37, with a qualified teacher 2 days a week and a TA the rest of the time back in 2005.

Labour are unelectable for a few reasons:
Antisemitism
Twaw and self id
Wanting to keep people in their place, eg comments about Kwasi
Authoritarian leaning lack of free speech
Fear of race to the bottom if people can claim lots of benefits

Not necessarily my thoughts but those are the main reasons. Plus Keir is so boring and Angela Raynor is totally mental.

What’s your take on Grant Fox, sorry Shapps, as our Home Secretary given his past as a grifter then?

It’s not a defence to point out others wrong doings, they’re both in the wrong clearly.

The nuance comes in when a prime minister breaks laws they introduced. Hard I know but it’s a big point that people recognise.

Anyone thinking of voting conservative should read this over and over again. The country is in a state, a global laughing stock. Why don't people see this?

No the NHS wasn't in the mess it is now under Labour.
Targets were often met - max 4 hours in A and E and 18 weeks for surgery/treatment.
Not old people dying waiting.g for ambulances if they send one at all, 12 plus hours in A and E. Ambulances stuck for hours waiting to offload patients and

It is really difficult to have an intelligent discussion about it. I am so angry. It's like asking someone if they want to be hit in the face with a frying pan again or is it just that they're enjoying watching their next door neighbour getting hit in the face with a frying pan continuously and do they get a pound every time it happens?

I usually understand the Tory viewpoint about self accountability and ambition although I don't agree it works. But now? This Tory party? Exactly what cogent argument is there for voting for them? In what ways are they not corrupt, inept and immoral? I am really interested to know.

Year plus waits for surgery!

It will be a massive task to sort out what the tories have done to the NHS but it would improve under Labour.

Ffs, it's people who think they have a moral superiority and go around calling Tories counts or thick that pisses me right off.
I have never voted conservative as it happens, but neither do I think that the majority of people who do are evil or stupid. That kind of narrative just entrenches defensive behaviour. Has anyone ever had their mind changed by someone telling them they are thick for voting the way they do?

We do need business people to invest in this country in order to generate jobs, and one of the least attractive facets of the left wing is the idea that some have that making money is inherently evil. This fetishisation of poverty and oppression Olympics, and the idea that all working class people should aspire to is decent benefits instead of jobs etc is a huge reason why the red wall crumbled at the last election.

Take a look at yourselves. Honestly.

@WhatTheHellIsAQuasar I'm not actually, I think I'm what you call a floating voter. I have voted for various parties over the years. I'm also very far from rich, I work as a nanny and live in a tiny studio flat in London, I just don't like all the unnecessary name calling etc on here because someone has a different opinion, go figure 🤷🏻‍♀️

I have never voted tory and I never will.

Oh please, both sides are prone to it. I don’t recall many right wingers on here distancing themselves from Suellas parliament rant about tofu eating wokerati.

Because there's not really anyone else left. He's the least worst.

They can't even form a functional government. Why on earth would anyone vote for them

I used to be a member of the LP.
I resigned.

I will never vote for them again unless things change.

The only people who would vote Tory at this point are either incredibly stupid or incredibly selfish; and nothing will change my mind 🤷🏼‍♀️

I agree @Stripyhoglets1. It’s like some people think we weren’t there?!?