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Liz Truss has resigned. Part 3: The Return of the King?

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sunnydaytoday0 · 21/10/2022 10:40

Continuation from last thread.

By Monday we could have a new prime minister, and by next Friday at the latest.

Will Sunak win this time, or could Johnson get his old job back? Would the Tory members once again go against the wishes of the MPs?

And yes I think Johnson sees himself as some sort of world king..

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Notonthestairs · 21/10/2022 15:25

Maybe the BBC are worried that Dorries will be back as Culture Secretary and gunning for them?

Although after the DCMS committee findings yesterday she should be excluded from any role.

Dweebie · 21/10/2022 15:28

Feel slightly reassured about the vox pops now, felt like i was living in a parallel universe .

i still think there is something sinister about media presenting all the Boris love as if it was the mainstream opinion.

SleeplessInEngland · 21/10/2022 15:31

Dweebie · 21/10/2022 15:28

Feel slightly reassured about the vox pops now, felt like i was living in a parallel universe .

i still think there is something sinister about media presenting all the Boris love as if it was the mainstream opinion.

Focus on collated polls from different outlets over a long period of time. They tell the real story.

LexMitior · 21/10/2022 15:31

I am hearing nutty things about Sunak offering Johnson the position of Home Secretary.

Nobody wants to be Home Secretary. What a terribly insincere offer.

It seems Sunak is more popular than Johnson with the British public, which may matter.

StoneofDestiny · 21/10/2022 15:33

Stick them all on I’m a Celebrity, only don’t let any of them out!

SleeplessInEngland · 21/10/2022 15:33

Ouch

YouGov
23m
Would you feel happy or unhappy if Boris Johnson returned as prime minister?

Happy: 27%
Unhappy: 52%
Neither happy nor unhappy: 18%

StoneofDestiny · 21/10/2022 15:35

How can anybody be happy to bring back an amoral, lying buffoon who is still under investigation to lead the UK!

SleeplessInEngland · 21/10/2022 15:36

Mourdant officially declares.

It's insane that the two men most likely to be leader next week still haven't.

CaveMum · 21/10/2022 15:37

To be fair (snarf!) to Rishi, it's likely he might have to bring Boris into the Cabinet in some guise in order to placate the right-wing of the party.

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer/better to have him inside the tent pissing out than the other way round/etc.

LexMitior · 21/10/2022 15:40

@CaveMum - make him Northern Ireland Secretary (except that's very unfair on them).

Or the Department for Work and Pensions perhaps

derxa · 21/10/2022 15:42

SleeplessInEngland · 21/10/2022 15:03

Just plug it into my veins

Paul Brand
@ PaulBrandITV
NEW: Sources close to Privileges Committee say evidence is so damning that Boris Johnson could be 'gone by Christmas' if he returns.

One Tory MP tells me any attempt to kill the inquiry could 'bring down the govt'.

Yet momentum builds behind Johnson.

Paul Brand is a Labour activist not an impartial journalist. Who are his sources?

RedToothBrush · 21/10/2022 15:43

Jim Pickard AT PickardJE
if Boris Johnson wins the race and then has to resign because of the privileges committee investigation, does he get TWO resignation honours lists?

SleeplessInEngland · 21/10/2022 15:44

derxa · 21/10/2022 15:42

Paul Brand is a Labour activist not an impartial journalist. Who are his sources?

A senior ITV political journalist is a 'labour activist'? I thought you'd be above than such bot-like drivel.

ILeclercreturn · 21/10/2022 15:46

{For Süddeutsche Zeitung, that could prove a problem. There was a real risk, it said, that the next PM “will also not allow an honest debate on Brexit, which is urgently needed – nothing is paralysing the UK so much as the fatal consequences of leaving the EU”.

Brexit was singled out as the main cause of the country’s political crisis – and a significant factor in its economic woes.}

Stolen from the Guardian in a piece about EU reactions to the 'scene' in the UK.
I didn't read all the piece and I think it is mostly quotes from individual papers in the EU countries. Views from countries further afield would be illuminating too. Especially those with whom the UK is pinning it's hopes on trade deals.

Notonthestairs · 21/10/2022 15:48

Paul Brand was Political Journalist of the Year in 2020.

RedToothBrush · 21/10/2022 15:49

Richard Holmes AT Richard_AHolmes
🚨NEW🚨 Online vote for Tory leader open to meddling from hostile states like Russia, security sources warn.

“Expect double votes, bad actors, mistakes”

Multiple intelligence sources have told the i that the proposed online vote is vulnerable to an attack.

Former national security advisor Mark Lyall Grant said: “If I were still NSA (national security advisor), I would be concerned about the integrity of an online vote."

A UK intelligence source said the main risk to the result’s integrity would be from within the Tory membership itself. The issue comes from the need to properly authenticate every voter’s identity in such a small window.

“Expect double votes, bad actors, mistakes,” they said

Cyber attacks can be catastrophic for electoral processes. And the Tories have tried this before.

At the last leadership race, the Conservative Party was forced to abandon plans to allow members to change their vote after GCHQ warned that cyber hackers could change the votes.

derxa · 21/10/2022 15:49

SleeplessInEngland · 21/10/2022 15:44

A senior ITV political journalist is a 'labour activist'? I thought you'd be above than such bot-like drivel.

I follow him on Twitter and he appears on Lorraine as well as his news reports. Biased doesn't fully describe his contributions. And I repeat 'Who are his sources?'

LexMitior · 21/10/2022 15:51

I like "sources close to the Committee". That is shorthand for "the Committee".

RedToothBrush · 21/10/2022 15:51

Mordaunt has official confirmed she's standing.

Which is interesting. She must think she has a fair shot on getting the 100 votes.

Suggests there's a few liars in the Tory Party and/or people keeping cards closer to their chest than spreadsheets suggest.

Dave20 · 21/10/2022 15:52

What really pains me is Truss managed to fuck the economy up making the banks react by raising interest rates.
Im now paying an extra £200pm , many others will pay more. Lots of first time buyers now wiped off the ladder as their mortgage offers don’t stand.
She cost me and additional £2200 a year.

Im far from happy. She has no shame. No apologies to the chaos her short time caused. To me it’s unforgivable.

Their really is some vile people in the Tory party, none of them deserve to govern.

ParkheadParadise · 21/10/2022 15:52

Wonder if Bawbag Boris will decorate again if he makes it back to No10.

SleeplessInEngland · 21/10/2022 15:52

derxa · 21/10/2022 15:49

I follow him on Twitter and he appears on Lorraine as well as his news reports. Biased doesn't fully describe his contributions. And I repeat 'Who are his sources?'

Well he was right about partygate, wasn't he?

The culture of unnamed sources is endemic in british political journalism and I wish it wasn't, but given they all do it I'd hardly single Brand out as suspicious for using them (and he's not the only journalist who's repeated these specific predictions).

RedToothBrush · 21/10/2022 15:58

Jack Maidment AT jrmaidment
New: Boris Johnson has been personally calling Tory MPs from his holiday in a bid to secure their backing, at camillahmturner has been told.

He promised one MP that there would be a "different culture" in Downing Street if he becomes PM again.

If he was that convinced of getting the noms why is he doing this???

But it does confirm he is intending to try and stand.

Notonthestairs · 21/10/2022 15:58

Of course, one of Boris' biggest problems will be the privileges committee.

We understand No10 has already handed over documents, emails, pictures, messages.

One insider said the evidence was so damning it was likely to lead to a Commons suspension...

twitter.com/natashac/status/1583226403184553989?s=46&t=5XW5CmtF5GTEAMaA4DZqeA

chief political reporter The Sun - yesterday.

RedToothBrush · 21/10/2022 16:00

Alex Andreou AT sturdyAlex
Commons is not in recess. Why is he on holiday?

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