Liz Truss has resigned. Part 3: The Return of the King?

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Continuation from last thread.

By Monday we could have a new prime minister, and by next Friday at the latest.

Will Sunak win this time, or could Johnson get his old job back? Would the Tory members once again go against the wishes of the MPs?

And yes I think Johnson sees himself as some sort of world king..

What a naive post. Every party needs and relies on donors, including Labour. Not unusual at all! How strange.

Mea culpa ILeclercreturn, but I appreciate your informed posts.

Not sure I'd call any of those 'big beasts'. Sunak has Raab backing him, whose stature is at least equivalent.
I don't know who I dislike more between Raab and JRM, frankly, but I don't think it's true that Sunak isn't attracting some of the more experienced MPs.

Latest stats:

Boris: 65
Rishi: 85
Penny: 25

Penny seems to be stalling.

The interesting one is JRM. He couldn't declare fast enough for Johnson.

Not surprising because if Sunak wins, he is out of the Cabinet.

Even Johnson wasn't stupid enough to give JRM a proper job. Truss was, and that's a problem for the UK.

Reports in DW talk of the major flooding in Nigeria which will cause massive problems with food, on top of all the other problems because farmland has been washed away so even when the water subsides the fields will need massive renewal work to make it possible to grow anything. A German 'green' party were looking at ways to get grain transported out of Ukraine earlier in the year when Putin controlled the Black sea. While there are problems in EU countries the difference is the will to resolve them unlike what we see in the UK.

Saw Daddy Johnson on tv this morning shilling for his son Bozo. Has he received his peerage yet or is it just brother Jo Johnson who's in the Lords courtesy of Boz? No finagling here at all, not us, we're the party of the pure, ask Rees-Mogg, the moral conscience of the Tories.

And his sister was on Question Time last night. But of course!

I disagree. Raab is not considered to be a big hitter at all.
Ben Wallace on the other hand is extremely well respected within the House of Commons across the board, and indeed the party faithful, and Alok Sharma too.

The very fact that those two in particular have publicly come out for Boris shows me for sure Boris is already in the final running and to be clear, it is extremely unlikely given the Ministerial posts - particular Ben Wallace as Defence Minister that they would be publicly support Boris.

This tells us all I need to know about the backing Boris already has.

Well.

What absolutely extraordinary time's we are living in !

JRM needs to get his head out of Boris's arse.
I could have a little cry at the state of this government. They are so clueless and people are genuinely suffering because of it.

Well, Raab was Deputy PM, but OK. Glad you know all you need to know.

To be fair to Rachel Johnson, she did say that the tories needed a spell in opposition...amongst other things.

And Javid now also has declared for Sunak.

Do you recognise any more of these Johnson acts?

Prorogation, Arcuri, Barnard Castle, free holidays, lobbying, Paterson, partygate, Lebedev, gold wallpaper, Pincher:

Johnson and his people are always good at puffing themselves up, but I think he's got a lot of problems with his colleagues.

Ben Wallace said "leaning"! What does that tell you? It tells me that he will support Johnson if there are no defence cuts. That is what I mean about conditions.

Personally, I wish Ben Wallace would stand.
I think it needs someone who could command the support of the whole party.
Technically, it could be Johnson, as he was the one who won the last election, but his personality is too divisive.
I would not support Sunak, who spent the last 6 months undermining his Prime Minister, and working towards his own PM attempt. His wife is a non-dom status, and he also has a green card (US), so I do not think they are committed to the UK. Secondly, anyone supported by Gove is not my choice.... but then I do not have a choice as I am not a party member , and I suspect they will make it difficult for members to vote for anyone other than Sunak.
I actually think they should have a General Election; the conservatives will lose.

I've read that Wallace has ambitions beyond Downing Street. He wants to become Secretary General of NATO which is due to come up next year. So whatever he does with this latest round of bullshit will have that in mind.

Let's stop calling him Boris.

Boris is the stage name.

I would love to know how the Sunak green card and non-dom thing in any way compare to the trail of lies and corruption left by Johnson? Personally would rather chew my arm off than vote for Sunak or any of them but he is clearly a more honest and credible candidate than Johnson.

I wish everyone (including the opposition parties) would actually stop with calling for a general election. It's not going to happen. There's no way of making it happen. What's the point to keep saying it?

It’s a strange sensation to now realise I’d be disappointed if Johnson didn’t win. I see now that he’ll have to get absolutely rinsed in a general election to finally, once and all, get flushed away.

DH was with customers today who are party members. They told him they voted Truss last time because they didn't want a foreigner in charge so if it was Johnson v Sunsk they would vote Johnson. DH asked them if they knew where Johnson was born, they thought UK. DH took great pleasure telling them about him renouncing his US citizenship. He thought their heads were about to explode. Kept saying that can't be true so he suggested they Google it.

Oh dear

Yeah but that doesn't count. What they really mean by "foreign" is "brown".