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Suella Braverman. Is she always like that or is she unwell?

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newnamethanks · 19/10/2022 10:34

Dear Lord above, I've seen people removed and banned from pubs for less. She's the Home Secretary. What have we come to?

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RedToothBrush · 19/10/2022 19:12

Goldpaw · 19/10/2022 19:06

How can it no longer be a confidence vote when so many are going to rebel? Surely the very epitomy of lost confidence, or does it work in a different way?

Apparently it's no longer a confidence vote but the whips can't confirm whether if they vote against whether they will lose the party whip.

Hence the 'absolute scenes' in the lobby that Phillips is commenting on above.

Total car crash. No one in charge.

RedToothBrush · 19/10/2022 19:14

Caroline Nokes Mp at carolinenokes
The only reason I am voting against the Labour motion is because I will not give them control of the order paper - and I will retain my say in who is Prime Minister.

5mins ago.

Catlady2021 · 19/10/2022 19:14

RedToothBrush · 19/10/2022 19:02

Robert Peston at peston
Government announces the fracking vote is no longer a confidence vote - because of the scale of the expected rebellion by Tory MPs. Truss could not afford to expel them. It is no longer clear what authority she has over her party. Extraordinary. Yes (yawn), another u-turn

Anyone nostalgic for the strong and stable government of Theresa May...?

Strong and stable under Theresa May? It certainly wasn’t! She went when the party lost confidence in her! It was all about Brexit deals back then.
I do wish we could go back to 2019 though..

RafaistheKingofClay · 19/10/2022 19:14

It really is going back to some of May’s Brexit votes, isn’t it. Memorably the one where they ended up having to do a complete about turn and whip their MPs to vote against their own Bill.

RedToothBrush · 19/10/2022 19:15

From earlier today... (truss used to be a LD for those who don't know)

Suella Braverman. Is she always like that or is she unwell?
RedToothBrush · 19/10/2022 19:16

Noa Hoffman at Hoffman_noa
EXC: MPs claiming TORY CHIEF WHIP GONE

RedToothBrush · 19/10/2022 19:17

That was Wendy Moreton for anyone who has kept up with this government

hesbeingabitofadick · 19/10/2022 19:19

Sky commentator "This is a big issue..."
Me, muttering "That's what she should be selling tomorrow."

AutumnCrow · 19/10/2022 19:19

Eleanor Laing wants to know what's going on in the Noe Lobby.

RedToothBrush · 19/10/2022 19:19

Ian Murray MP at ianmurray
I’ve never seen scenes like it at the entrance to a voting lobby. Tories on open warfare. Jostling and Rees Mogg shouting at his colleagues. Whips screaming at Tories.
They are done and should call a general election.
Two Tory whips dragging people in. Shocking.

hesbeingabitofadick · 19/10/2022 19:20

Cowards.
230 ayes; 326 nos.

Thangham Debonaire says Govt Chief Whip has quit?!??

RedToothBrush · 19/10/2022 19:20

Adam bienkov at adambienkov
BREAKING: The House of Commons votes by 326 to 230 against banning fracking, despite the Government's own manifesto pledge not to allow shale gas extraction in the UK.

hesbeingabitofadick · 19/10/2022 19:22

Chris Bryant calling for investigation into bullying and harrassment in the lobby.

CuriousCatfish · 19/10/2022 19:24

It's like a bloody farce.

TheGhostOfLiz · 19/10/2022 19:25

Deputy Chief Whip also now resigned....

SavingsThreads · 19/10/2022 19:27

RedToothBrush · 19/10/2022 17:32

Alexander Brown at alexofbrown
So far today the home secretary has quit, a Downing Street adviser was suspended for allegedly briefing Javid was "shit", the prime minister u-turned on pensions, the Government essentially called a vote of confidence in itself and two more ministers were put on resignation watch

Nick Robinson at bbcnickrobinson
I wonder what first attracted at liztruss to the idea of appointing at grantshapps - the leading organiser of backbench rebellions & at RishiSunak backer - to be her new Home Secretary?

Thats brutal. And from a bbc journo.

Do we know ministers are on resignation watch?

titchy · 19/10/2022 19:27

Why would whips resign having achieved a thumping majority? Unless their conduct is to be called into question?

TheGhostOfLiz · 19/10/2022 19:28

titchy · 19/10/2022 19:27

Why would whips resign having achieved a thumping majority? Unless their conduct is to be called into question?

I believe the Deputy exited the lobby yelling “I am fucking furious and I don’t give a fuck anymore.”

True story!

hesbeingabitofadick · 19/10/2022 19:29

titchy · 19/10/2022 19:27

Why would whips resign having achieved a thumping majority? Unless their conduct is to be called into question?

manhandling fellow MPs - behaviour code.

they're toast.

vera99 · 19/10/2022 19:30

Time for the army to stage a coup and declare a General Election with King Charle's signing it off under some probably obscure 17th obscure legislation that hasn't been rescinded.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 19/10/2022 19:31

Charlie-boy needs to call for an election.

hesbeingabitofadick · 19/10/2022 19:32

coffey and mogg involved - alex stafford? according to Chris Bryant on sky now.

hesbeingabitofadick · 19/10/2022 19:34

and chris bryant has a photo of it on his phone for the deputy speaker and the subsequent investigation.

vera99 · 19/10/2022 19:34

Fabricunt probably shilling for a post now. Cabinet minister for bringing the coffees and making others look not so bad.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 19/10/2022 19:34

This is just a joke! How can it carry on?