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Brexit got Britain done

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katmeouws · 18/10/2022 22:10

Thats it really.

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worriedatthistime · 18/10/2022 23:43

@HeadacheEarthquake it means being in the eu wouldn't of made us immune and we wouldn't be having said issues
Those who can't see how a worldwide pandemic causes huge global issues , then add in a war and then think yes its all brexit,really need to get a bit more understanding of the world situation right now

Liebig · 18/10/2022 23:43

StarfishBrain · 18/10/2022 23:39

Anything bad? Brexit. Not Tory policy

Brexit is Tory policy!

Did you miss the UKIP movement that forced their hand?

It was a powder keg they were going to have to address one way or another. If it wasn't the Tories, it'd be another party.

Remember how famously impressed with Europe Corbyn was?

Ihatethenewlook · 18/10/2022 23:44

Brexit is the best thing to ever happen to us as a family

Liebig · 18/10/2022 23:45

StarfishBrain · 18/10/2022 23:40

🤣🤣🤣

I think they are bigging themselves up with that, they are just plain delusional and lacking rationality, and reading skills.

Person who uses currency devaluation to talk about Brexit, but conveniently misses the Euro dropping even more than Sterling.

Use more emotes. I hear it makes your arguments better.

worriedatthistime · 18/10/2022 23:46

@Foronenightonly01 what covid started wit Brexit did it ?
I think you need to get a better grip and understanding if current issues and not make an easy claim of brexit
Europe is having its struggles and its not a race to the bottom
But the a lot of the world is not in great shape at the moment
Brexit was always going to cause some short term issues whilst new and it was navigated but it didn't cause a pandemic

Kendodd · 18/10/2022 23:46

worriedatthistime · 18/10/2022 23:43

@HeadacheEarthquake it means being in the eu wouldn't of made us immune and we wouldn't be having said issues
Those who can't see how a worldwide pandemic causes huge global issues , then add in a war and then think yes its all brexit,really need to get a bit more understanding of the world situation right now

Has anyone said the economic problems are all down to Brexit, and only Brexit? No. Brexit has just made everything worse and pretty much is the only thing threatening the GFA.

StarfishBrain · 18/10/2022 23:46

Did you miss the UKIP movement that forced their hand?

No, it did not. UKIP had a couple of MPs at their peak? Everyone could have safely ignored the nutters - if they cared about the country more than their political party of course.

The EU was nowhere in voter's top 10 concerns whatsoever for decades.

Why don't you try again.

StarfishBrain · 18/10/2022 23:47

Person who uses currency devaluation to talk about Brexit, but conveniently misses the Euro dropping even more than Sterling.

It hasn't.

TooBigForMyBoots · 18/10/2022 23:48

worriedatthistime · 18/10/2022 23:41

Are people actually aware of issues around the world incl europe
Brexit will have played a part but add a pandemic and then a war and you have much bigger problems
Actually its now harder to actually see the impact brexit alone would of had

The damage was predicted and came true, but people were told to shut up, they just weren't BeLeaving enough and moved out of government. The actual bill for the divorce is eye-watering and rising.

StarfishBrain · 18/10/2022 23:48

Honestly, I am so depressed that some people are this thick.

Off to bed now.

Fawful · 18/10/2022 23:48

Can't be dealing with that faux brown-red shit... I thought that died a long time ago. Night.
(You're full of beans for a Tuesday night @liebig!)

worriedatthistime · 18/10/2022 23:48

@Foronenightonly01 someone can have a different opinion and actually present some facts and not be a bot , rather than just the one line its all brexit

Liebig · 18/10/2022 23:49

StarfishBrain · 18/10/2022 23:46

Did you miss the UKIP movement that forced their hand?

No, it did not. UKIP had a couple of MPs at their peak? Everyone could have safely ignored the nutters - if they cared about the country more than their political party of course.

The EU was nowhere in voter's top 10 concerns whatsoever for decades.

Why don't you try again.

Yeah, no. This was not something that just popped up 12 months before Brexit happened.

Again, the immigration and destitution in the areas I'm familiar with was definitely a driving factor and this was well before 2016.

Linning · 18/10/2022 23:49

I do think pre-Brexit, was the last time the UK was taken seriously on both the international and political scene, yes.

I don’t necessarily think Brexit is behind every single thing that has gone wrong with the UK in the last couple of years as both Covid and the war have had clear impacts of their own, BUT Brexit definitely was the beginning of the downwards public spiral of UK politicians making the choice to put their ego above the good of the country and just making worse and worse decisions as they went to save face even if there is no way to save face after so many poor decisions were purposefully made in such a short period of time.

I think pre-Brexit, the UK was a prestigious influential country with its flaws but well-regarded internationally, probably in many ways “at the top of its game.” Now, and without wanting to cause offense, it’s turned a bit into a laughing stock. It’s hard to take seriously an island-nation that has voted against its best interest and which nobody actually want or know how to lead and that seem to be each day a bit more driven to the ground.

It’s rough because Brexit has made the UK dependent on seeming appealing to other countries outside the EU and it’s very hard to feel like investing into the UK or to see the appeal in the UK or it as still competitive when things are in the state they currently are.

worriedatthistime · 18/10/2022 23:54

@Kendodd well pretty much the opening post is and many haven't mentioned the other issues just
Brexit
I mean come on things like a match to rejoin , to people understand that you can't just re join ffs

Liebig · 18/10/2022 23:55

StarfishBrain · 18/10/2022 23:47

Person who uses currency devaluation to talk about Brexit, but conveniently misses the Euro dropping even more than Sterling.

It hasn't.

Which is lower?

Brexit got Britain done
Liebig · 18/10/2022 23:56

Linning · 18/10/2022 23:49

I do think pre-Brexit, was the last time the UK was taken seriously on both the international and political scene, yes.

I don’t necessarily think Brexit is behind every single thing that has gone wrong with the UK in the last couple of years as both Covid and the war have had clear impacts of their own, BUT Brexit definitely was the beginning of the downwards public spiral of UK politicians making the choice to put their ego above the good of the country and just making worse and worse decisions as they went to save face even if there is no way to save face after so many poor decisions were purposefully made in such a short period of time.

I think pre-Brexit, the UK was a prestigious influential country with its flaws but well-regarded internationally, probably in many ways “at the top of its game.” Now, and without wanting to cause offense, it’s turned a bit into a laughing stock. It’s hard to take seriously an island-nation that has voted against its best interest and which nobody actually want or know how to lead and that seem to be each day a bit more driven to the ground.

It’s rough because Brexit has made the UK dependent on seeming appealing to other countries outside the EU and it’s very hard to feel like investing into the UK or to see the appeal in the UK or it as still competitive when things are in the state they currently are.

The first sensible post I've seen in here.

The total lack of leadership and competence in the ruling elite of this nation is a much bigger concern right now. As we are now seeing.

worriedatthistime · 18/10/2022 23:58

@Liebig your wasting your time , people like this only see what they want and what suits their narrative
Like those who think we can just rejoin , like the eu don't even get a say
Brexit was never going to be a smooth ride and even of successful it wasn't going yo ever be in one year or two, anyone would realise that

ChocFrog · 18/10/2022 23:58

StarfishBrain · 18/10/2022 23:06

I do wonder what our grandchildren will learn about Brexit in their history lessons. I mean, what the hell did people expect to happen?! It has to be one of the most stupid things a democratic country has ever decided to do. Utterly idiotic in every way. The effects will still be felt even then if somebody in Government doesn't at least find a braincell and rejoin the single market. I can't imagine the grandchildren will be any more impressed than young adults today.

Yep.

The real lesson to take from it though is how easily and enthusiastically Britain voted for a man who’d been sacked more than once for dishonesty - because he promised them everything would be great.

What future politicans have learned is that the winner is the person who tells the biggest lie. That’s dangerous. ☹️

worriedatthistime · 19/10/2022 00:00

@Liebig the even more worrying thing is its not looking like we have much better in the opposition, unless they can pull something out of the bag
We had austerity whilst in the eu as well
The eu doesn't make you exempt from problems like people seem to think

Liebig · 19/10/2022 00:01

worriedatthistime · 18/10/2022 23:58

@Liebig your wasting your time , people like this only see what they want and what suits their narrative
Like those who think we can just rejoin , like the eu don't even get a say
Brexit was never going to be a smooth ride and even of successful it wasn't going yo ever be in one year or two, anyone would realise that

I may just move on to the next hilarious folks: the Scottish nationalists. Surely they'll do a better Brexit?

Which is galling as I have Scots ancestry in me.

Liebig · 19/10/2022 00:02

worriedatthistime · 19/10/2022 00:00

@Liebig the even more worrying thing is its not looking like we have much better in the opposition, unless they can pull something out of the bag
We had austerity whilst in the eu as well
The eu doesn't make you exempt from problems like people seem to think

I voted for Jezza, but we can't have filthy communists running things. We got no more, see? Spent it all.

So now we can have either Red Team or Blue Team enforced and enhanced super austerity. I, personally, want Red Team because they're the best, even if blue is a great colour.

worriedatthistime · 19/10/2022 00:03

@ChocFrog its funny how most remainers think anyone who voted brexit is clueless , why did you vote remain? I personally was remain but I know some very clever people who voted leave and actually listened to them and their reasons rather than accuse them of being thick, etc
Maybe remain could of one if more people had listened rather than assume

Foronenightonly01 · 19/10/2022 00:05

But you’ve almost always got more dollar for your pound than that have for a Euro….that makes no sense🤷🏼‍♀️. I’m off to bed….not going to argue with # …

worriedatthistime · 19/10/2022 00:05

@Liebig I don't care whose next to be honest but its time for a change
How i see it is they all screw you over if your in the middle one way or the other
Wish some new parties would emerge really
And the thing I would like most is for manifestos to be legally binding , so people actually get what they voted for

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