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Brexit got Britain done

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katmeouws · 18/10/2022 22:10

Thats it really.

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Eeyoresbreakfast707 · 18/10/2022 23:21

user1499128287 · 18/10/2022 22:13

Tired old nonsense again....

It really isn’t.

If you are a Tory and you reject the centrist broadly Christian democratic values of the EU and regulated capitalism … there is only one way it is going to go …. and that’s people like Truss, Kwateng, and the ERG playing silly buggers with the economy and pursuing free market ideologies and trickle down nonsense. Singapore on Sea was never going to be workable in the UK as this past fortnight has demonstrated all too well.

Liebig · 18/10/2022 23:23

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Foronenightonly01 · 18/10/2022 23:27

⬆️ #bot 😂

Liebig · 18/10/2022 23:29

ShandaLear · 18/10/2022 23:19

I wish I’d voted for chaos with Ed Milliband. Heck, I’d take chaos with The Steve Miller Band now. Anything but this shower of twats.

Thing is, your choice is an illusion now anyway. The same people bitching about the Tories shitting the bed are seemingly oblivious to the fact that every other party will kowtow the same Mr. Market pleasing line. No one wants to buck the system and actually introduce change.

Outside Jezza, but we can’t be having that now can we?

I’m literally reading articles are the other side going on about how we angered the financial gods and this is Bad(TM).

So if Labour get in, they’ll… what? They’ll do exactly what the markets want. Austerity for everyone again, huzzah!

TooBigForMyBoots · 18/10/2022 23:29

Brexit is going be even more talked about now that there's a massive hole in our finances and the Tory Omerta on it has gone. Brexit shrunk our economy, lead to a huge fall in investment and is a continuously damaging and costly nightmare.

We still have to complete it and we are so much weaker. I expect Hunt to instruct the easiest deal we can get.

Foronenightonly01 · 18/10/2022 23:30

Liebig’s username is rather telling isn’t it?!!

Liebig · 18/10/2022 23:30

Foronenightonly01 · 18/10/2022 23:27

⬆️ #bot 😂

You’re like a parody of Twitter all in one meat puppet.

Dissenting opinion? RUZZIAN BOT.

Liebig · 18/10/2022 23:31

Foronenightonly01 · 18/10/2022 23:30

Liebig’s username is rather telling isn’t it?!!

Open an ecology textbook one day.

Also, extra funny since it’s my (German) family name too.

StarfishBrain · 18/10/2022 23:32

Sorry, I thought “things are shit, it’s Brexit” was the theme

So you didn't read the thread.

Liebig · 18/10/2022 23:32

TooBigForMyBoots · 18/10/2022 23:29

Brexit is going be even more talked about now that there's a massive hole in our finances and the Tory Omerta on it has gone. Brexit shrunk our economy, lead to a huge fall in investment and is a continuously damaging and costly nightmare.

We still have to complete it and we are so much weaker. I expect Hunt to instruct the easiest deal we can get.

What “hole”?

Are you buying into this Tory “Labour used up ALL the money, so we’re broke. Just like a household would be” bullshit? Are you going along with austerity while we go into a global depression?

Does no one actually know how economies work any more?

Fawful · 18/10/2022 23:33

It hardly matters, @Liebig. The fact is that following the Brexit vote the UK got lumbered with increasingly incompetent leaders, that have made the country a hell of a lot worse than it needed to be. In fact it could hardly be worse if we'd stayed in.
I'm not hearing of France entering austerity for instance, in fact they're not even in recession. Your Eurozone cherry picking is not fooling anyone.

Liebig · 18/10/2022 23:33

StarfishBrain · 18/10/2022 23:32

Sorry, I thought “things are shit, it’s Brexit” was the theme

So you didn't read the thread.

The one that started out with “Brexit innit” and went downhill from there?

Not a major fan, no.

Fawful · 18/10/2022 23:34

Afraid so, @Foronenightonly01...

Kendodd · 18/10/2022 23:35

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I agree with you. Our problems pre 2016 were the fault of the Tories, hence why your city was one of the poorest in Europe. Brexit, so loved by the Tories, has made everything even worse. And yet (stupid) people love it and think it's the best thing ever, I see almost zero evidence of Brexit regret amongst those who voted for it and zero shits given about the problems its caused in NI.

StarfishBrain · 18/10/2022 23:36

The amount of delusion in this country about the EU being some amazing utopia of progress and political trailblazing is incredible.

On the Kool Aid or something?

Nobody said that.

We said adding to external problems by deliberately trashing your exports and trading relationships and devaluing your currency further than it would otherwise have been was stupid. This is a fact.

Other countries have their own issues for various reasons around energy supply, etc.

Nobody said the EU was a utopia.

People are saying - factually - that Brexit was fucking stupid and damaging. And they'll continue to say that because it is true, until we have a Government with the sense to at least rejoin the single market. And you won't succeed in gaslighting people out of stating the facts I'm afraid.

Liebig · 18/10/2022 23:36

Fawful · 18/10/2022 23:33

It hardly matters, @Liebig. The fact is that following the Brexit vote the UK got lumbered with increasingly incompetent leaders, that have made the country a hell of a lot worse than it needed to be. In fact it could hardly be worse if we'd stayed in.
I'm not hearing of France entering austerity for instance, in fact they're not even in recession. Your Eurozone cherry picking is not fooling anyone.

We had them before that. 2016 isn’t this nexus point where politicians all got lobotomised. It was already readily obvious.

Man, remember when the coalition gov’t came about with austerity and reneging on student loans?

Remember when Blair took us into invading Iraq?

This is like all those libs losing their shit over Trump because he said “pussy” in relation to a woman, but seemingly forgot the time the US started two invasions that lead to literal hundreds of thousands of people dying and ending in a financial crash greater than anything since 1929.

Wiluli · 18/10/2022 23:37

But it was all scaramoungering 🙄or so the brexsh**ts kept saying . They seem very quiet these days

StarfishBrain · 18/10/2022 23:37

Eurozone. You know, the thing we apparently have to get with so we don’t have inflation and energy shortages…

Oh, wait.

Where did anybody suggest the UK should join the Euro?? 🤣 Are you drunk?

Overandunderit · 18/10/2022 23:38

I don't think it's all Brexit but it's definitely contributed significantly

The fact that pro-leave won't admit that is ridiculous.

StarfishBrain · 18/10/2022 23:39

Anything bad? Brexit. Not Tory policy

Brexit is Tory policy!

Tumbleweed101 · 18/10/2022 23:40

Regardless of if Brexit was good/bad I think it going ahead in the midst of the pandemic chaos
was just crazy. Why add more upheaval into an already unstable situation??

Liebig · 18/10/2022 23:40

StarfishBrain · 18/10/2022 23:36

The amount of delusion in this country about the EU being some amazing utopia of progress and political trailblazing is incredible.

On the Kool Aid or something?

Nobody said that.

We said adding to external problems by deliberately trashing your exports and trading relationships and devaluing your currency further than it would otherwise have been was stupid. This is a fact.

Other countries have their own issues for various reasons around energy supply, etc.

Nobody said the EU was a utopia.

People are saying - factually - that Brexit was fucking stupid and damaging. And they'll continue to say that because it is true, until we have a Government with the sense to at least rejoin the single market. And you won't succeed in gaslighting people out of stating the facts I'm afraid.

The currency was being devalued long before Brexit, and was massively overvalued in most respects. Try again.

As for rejoining, you‘ll want to reconsider with the economic numbers coming out. They’ve got bigger problems to deal with presently, like trying to get through the next 12 months with any industry.

Macron is basically looking at the proverbial gravity assisted razor outcome of his actions, and Germany’s coalition has single-handedly ruined German heavy industry.

Also, Deutsche Bank being raided almost weekly now. Nothing to see here.

StarfishBrain · 18/10/2022 23:40

Foronenightonly01 · 18/10/2022 23:30

Liebig’s username is rather telling isn’t it?!!

🤣🤣🤣

I think they are bigging themselves up with that, they are just plain delusional and lacking rationality, and reading skills.

worriedatthistime · 18/10/2022 23:41

Are people actually aware of issues around the world incl europe
Brexit will have played a part but add a pandemic and then a war and you have much bigger problems
Actually its now harder to actually see the impact brexit alone would of had

StarfishBrain · 18/10/2022 23:43

The one that started out with “Brexit innit” and went downhill from there?

Not a major fan, no.

So you admit you haven't read what people wrote. You then asserted it's a thread where people are saying X and Y when nobody did: just stuff you made up.

Wasting everyone's time trying to defend the indefensible without even bothering to read the discussion.

There's certainly a pattern here.

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