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Well? Jeremy Hunt - thoughts?

206 replies

mamabear715 · 17/10/2022 17:57

I can't believe how politician-like he is, compared to Liz Truss!
Happy enough with the changes on the whole, what do you think?

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Newcatbrowntail · 17/10/2022 23:40

Thing is, in this country we don’t vote for the PM. We vote for a member of Parliament who will represent our constituency. The MP is usually, but not always a member of a political party. The MP and members of the party then vote for the person who will lead the party. The leader whose party wins the most seats and gets the most MPs in parliament then becomes Prime Minister. It’s not point saying the electorate didn’t vote for Liz , the electorate never votes for a PM. It is different in the USA where that actually do vote for a president.

oakleaffy · 17/10/2022 23:45

pompomdaisy · 17/10/2022 18:01

He's a cunt!

Completely agree.
He’s taking the gas/ electric help off people in April.

StarfishBrain · 17/10/2022 23:49

Again, if you want GBP to rise in value and therefore your energy and fuel bills to be cheaper, email your MP and tell them you want them to rejoin the single market. That is the only thing that will make a significant difference to those issues in the short term.

StarfishBrain · 17/10/2022 23:50

And your food bills.

And your mortgage interest rates.

ManAboutTown · 17/10/2022 23:54

Much as I despise the BBC I laughed when one their presenters "inadvertently" referred to him as Jeremy C*..

Here's a few reasons why he is wrong:

  • disastrous stewardship of the NHS
  • conspired with May to overturn the Brexit vote
  • major cheerleader for zero Covid and more stringent lockdowns

He's a wrong-un

StarfishBrain · 18/10/2022 00:17

LOL. I know it's late for a school night but that is delusional at best.

IncessantNameChanger · 18/10/2022 00:25

Hmmmm I have a fair bit of direct deals with Jeremy. He can talk the talk right enough but it's just talk. I was in a meeting with him where he said

  1. he had no intention of being PM, then went for the leadership five weeks later.

  2. asked the room a question, was brought up on that question by the chair, then tried to sell the chairs ideas as his own 30 seconds later like we was all deaf and stupid.

He is the apitomy of a politician and I don't honestly believe he stands for anything or anyone ( except himself of course)

He is very carasmatic and likeable. But I don't trust or belive him. His team is extremely, extremely good. Hence he looks good. He is surrounded be good people

sst1234 · 18/10/2022 00:41

lljkk · 17/10/2022 22:55

Hunt is a Grown up in the room. Mordaunt, too.
I don't like their policies, but they are not idealogues like Kwarteng/Truss.

I like Raynor a lot, rough diamond and all. Am pretty sure the main thing people dislike about AR is her accent. Raynor is a hugely better speaker than Truss, has buckets of integrity unlike Johnson, has genuine warmth unlike May.

There is no hope for the country when this is where the public is at.

sst1234 · 18/10/2022 00:43

StarfishBrain · 17/10/2022 23:49

Again, if you want GBP to rise in value and therefore your energy and fuel bills to be cheaper, email your MP and tell them you want them to rejoin the single market. That is the only thing that will make a significant difference to those issues in the short term.

It’s not going to happen. This obsession with Brexit has to stop. It’s done. Supply side reforms were not a bad idea. Just packaged really badly and explained even worse.

LeMoo · 18/10/2022 02:03

he had no intention of being PM, then went for the leadership five weeks later

All would-be PMs do this. Boris did so multiple times. Moggs done it - and I don't know if others have noticed but he's maneuvering for leadership in the future (probably not now).

Let's hope he's back under his rock by then!

HRTQueen · 18/10/2022 02:40

He has been working on his communication skills for a while

he comes across softer and less dogmatic than he used to be it’s a front we know why and we know what he is about

DashboardConfessional · 18/10/2022 02:52

This obsession with Brexit has to stop

No it doesn't. People have every right to continue to complain about a) what a stupid idea it was and b) how awfully it has been executed and c) the damage done.

SpidersAreShitheads · 18/10/2022 03:07

I'm not a Tory voter. Jeremy Hunt has an appalling track record, and his time as Health Minister was truly awful.

And yet....there have been multiple times over the last couple of years where he's been quite honest and outspoken about poor Tory policies. He refused to support Boris' social care bill because it would screw over poorer pensioners. He's given quite candid interviews during his time out of the cabinet where he's not tried to bullshit his way through difficult questions.

Does that mean I trust him? Absolutely not. But he's infinitely better than the shitshow that was Truss and Kwarteng. It's not saying much, but it's a start. Right now, someone in charge who can give a straight answer and string a sentence together is a bloody relief. We were in freefall and I think he's stopped it, at least for now.

Of course we shouldn't set such a low bar, but we have to start somewhere. And bizarrely, Jeremy Hunt is proving to be a step up from the rest. He's not where we want to be, but it's the best we have at the moment.

It sort of reminds me when Piers Morgan has a decent opinion and tweets about it. It's an uncomfortable feeling to realise that you're agreeing with him. It doesn't wipe out all of the things he's done in the past, or the fact that on a moral level you fundamentally disagree with a lot of his other opinions. But sometimes Piers Morgan acts like a decent human being for a while, and shows he has capacity for intelligent thought. It's very disconcerting but it almost feels as if this is what's happening here by accepting that Jeremy Hunt is a competent hand on the wheel.

Zonder · 18/10/2022 05:23

Colderthanever · 17/10/2022 18:30

I’ve been impressed watching him today, he’s calm, pragmatic, polite, and comes across like he knows what he’s talking about. He’s answering a range of questions and doing so well. Kudos to him.

This is what worries me. Based on today's smooth delivery after the chaos of LT and KK people will forget he made a total mess of the NHS and caused doctors to strike for the first time ever. The man is a nightmare of a similar level to Johnson and Truss but will now come over as a safe pair of hands.

Please don't let this turn people back to voting Tory.

Zonder · 18/10/2022 05:26

This obsession with Brexit has to stop. It’s done.

Firstly the obsession with Brexit needs to continue so that people don't forget what a mess Johnson et al have made, and hopefully we will be able to reverse it.

Secondly it's far from done. Just ask anyone in NI

Believeitornot · 18/10/2022 05:35

sst1234 · 18/10/2022 00:43

It’s not going to happen. This obsession with Brexit has to stop. It’s done. Supply side reforms were not a bad idea. Just packaged really badly and explained even worse.

Show me a country where supply side reforms have worked without creating massive inequality and destroying the middle class?

Brexit was done badly and nothing in politics is ever “done”. In the same way that we decided to join the EU, we can do it again. Have you forgotten why we joined in the first place as the sick man of Europe?

Mad1988 · 18/10/2022 05:43

The Guardian piece has a great description and bio www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/17/liz-truss-jeremy-hunt-penny-mordaunt

Elwynsmum · 18/10/2022 05:50

No thank you! We need a general election, preferably before Christmas.

Sindonym · 18/10/2022 05:57

Look at what he did to the NHS, rather than like him just because he sounds like an actual grown up.

Banoffeepie21 · 18/10/2022 05:59

Sindonym · 18/10/2022 05:57

Look at what he did to the NHS, rather than like him just because he sounds like an actual grown up.

This!! 😞

walkingonsunshinekat · 18/10/2022 06:32

@MadameMinimes Apologies! i meant to quote liebig and your response to him/her not the post i did.....

walkingonsunshinekat · 18/10/2022 06:38

Sindonym · 18/10/2022 05:57

Look at what he did to the NHS, rather than like him just because he sounds like an actual grown up.

TBF to Hunt, he did not act alone, he acted under the authority of the Tory Govt and David Cameron, he is not the only one to blame for the state of the NHS.

He has been quite good as chair as the health committee and has admitted he got things wrong, especially on maternity services & social care.

However, he is a Tory brexitier, despite voting remain, he compared the EU to the Soviet Union, so probably isn't as "Grown Up" as some might think.

mamabear715 · 18/10/2022 06:46

Thanks for the link, @Mad1988
That's exactly how it came across to me, lol, Librium Liz! She did LOOK medicated..

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Mad1988 · 18/10/2022 06:58

The smirk on his face is the worse

Aishah231 · 18/10/2022 07:16

I don't trust him at all. He's a stooge of the WEF (world economic forum). I didn't like Liz Truss and won't mourn her at all but I'm very worried about the power of external institutions to remove a sitting PM. Why does the Bank of England set interest rates? There is no reason for this the BOE could easily be brought back under government control. We've given away far too much power to unelected technocrats who want things run in their own interests.