Well? Jeremy Hunt - thoughts?

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I can't believe how politician-like he is, compared to Liz Truss!
Happy enough with the changes on the whole, what do you think?

Cornwall Insight said it now expects annual bills to equate to £4,347.69 from April to June, with gas at £2,286.70 and electricity at £2,060.99.

From various news sources today.

I can't wait to hear how they're going to help everyone who can't afford to spaff an extra £3k a year up the wall when compared to 2021 prices.

He's the Smiling Assassin. We need a GE.

He's terrible. Less terrible than Truss but that's not saying much.

I don't understand why they are all so pathetic and incompetent.
I've never been a Tory voter, disagree with just about all of their policies. However, I can remember quite a few Tories over the years as being competent and seemingly intelligent, able to string a couple of sentences together etc - Ken Clarke, Michael Heseltine, Douglas Hurd, even John Major was ok as chancellor.

This lot now are just the absolute dregs. What happened? Why are they so bad?

He's the same bad news packaged as better than what came before.

I think it goes back to the emergence of Farage/UKIP (and the BNP before it). Once they'd infiltrated the right wing, Cameron did his Brexit vote and here we are. That's how we ended up with Boris.

Slimy snake.
He wanted to send covid positive people to isolation camps.

Insightful. Jeez if this is the standard of conversation going on when politics is discussed then we might as well abandon the idea.

The NHS is complicated.

It needs serious reform and the reality is that whatever anyone does with it people will protest.

The nhs needs to stop funding things like IVF, cosmetic surgery etc,conditions which weren’t available when the NHS was first developed.

Medicine has changed since the beginning, and the truth is the NHS can’t keep up with all of it.

WRT hunt, he’s currently what we have, and while he might be a Tory, he is at least competent and capable of stringing a coherent sentence together.

The fact his party didn’t vote for him is irrelevant. They did vote for Truss, so who people voted for is hardly a representation of their abilities.

In truth Sunak should have been voted in, but he was never going to be elected because he’s not white.

There isn’t going to be a GE for the next 2 years. So while the tories are in power we need someone more competent than Lizz Truss is. And right now that person is Jeremy hunt.

There isn’t going to be a GE for the next 2 years.

If you seriously believe this, you have no idea how angry the British people are right now. Even lifelong Tory voters are saying they’re sick of it.

@Colderthanever Completely agree with you! See, I just typed out a much longer reply but deleted it thinking 'what's the point?' because I know responses will be offensive and lacking any kind of thought.

Were you in my living room earlier 😂. I said the exact same this to oh. He his the party leader, but as you say not only unelected, he also wasn't chosen by his own party.

I have wondered, since the leadership contest if liz truss was elected so she would do an awful job and a less popular conservative would by default get the leadership.

Rachel Reeves wiped the floor with him! He got 8 votes, 8 votes.
And he was uber patronising towards her, so sick of these public school boys.
He has been dreadful at every post he has had.
He has no mandate.

But, a huge but, at least he did have a calmness in his demeanour and I can't bear things to get any worse for our beautiful country.
I just want a UK which is fairer for all and not just a money making machine for the Elites. The days of the Elites ruling the entire population are seriously numbered. I don't think that they have woken up to that fact yet though.

All the more reason why there is unlikely to be a GE before 2024.

I’d like there to be, of course, but the odds of an early GE look pretty slim (literally if you look at the betting markets).

Absolutely.

The important thing is that he's acquiesced to The Markets™ and we're now fully back on the austerity path that keeps the global money makers happy.

I'm pretty bemused by Labour and their supporters' response to the electoral calculus too. If they come in with a landslide, what, exactly, are they going to do different?

Just a few days ago Truss and Kwarteng were rewarding the rich (for what exactly). Now we have Hunt saying he will cut Public Services - you know, the ones who worked through the pandemic, the services we call in when in need, the services that keep us safe - the services that employ Doctors, Nurses,Teachers,Firefighters, Police, Prison Officers .............the storm has barely started.

He destroyed the NHS and failed at his leadership bid..he is not better...it is simply the rest are so bad. The poor and lower earners will bear the brunt. Bankers will get massive bonuses. The misery of heating our houses will be worse come April. We need an election.

This.

The "markets" now know exactly what they have to do to force an austerity agenda on any government. Let's not forget that a balanced budget means spending cuts.

@Colderthanever
I agree that some posters seem rather rattled.

Labour would have similar constraints so maybe they can eek something out of here and there but there won’t be much borrowing for same reason

This. Bloody low bar to set. Remember how shit he was as second state for health - he’s as bad as Gove was at being Ed Sec.

"and hurling crude abuse removes all credibility from the poster. If the only comment someone can grunt out is he’s a cunt arsehole etc then it lacks any form of intelligent dialogue"

It's not the only comment. But it is still relevant.

JH was Health Secretary when he screwed junior doctors. He had no understanding of the issues nor the result of his policy.

Goodwill, on which the NHS relies, was shot to pieces by the arrogance of his attitude and position.

He may look like a statesman today, but that's mostly because of the attitude and lack of ability of his colleagues.

That better for ya?

I am impressed too. Imagine Angela Raynor in any senior position is enough to put the willies up me!

You're happy with the that who tried to make junior docs work a 60 hour week for £30k? Really?

The man who put the final bullet into the NHS? Really?

Are you all so punch drunk you think someone who sounds like they can speak is acceptable. Congratulations. You are tge reason we are in this mess.

JtheC Hunt can go do one. We need a new government its time for a general election. Even the money markets the Torys try to impress have put a knife into Liz Truss and her cabinet, injuring 99% of UK citizens in the process who own just 1% of the wealth.

She hasn’t got to be very good to represent a vast improvement. The bar’s set very low. She’s a determined woman who’s risen to the top against almost unsurmountable odds. I have the utmost respect for her.