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Anyone think Boris Jonhnson wil come back? ...

281 replies

Mellowday · 15/10/2022 22:46

When he left, he seemed to imply he may...?

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ilovesooty · 20/10/2022 18:00

I hope Johnson won't get 100 nominations. With any luck they'll get it down to two candidates quickly and one of them will be put under pressure to drop out so that the membership don't get to vote.

Clavinova · 20/10/2022 18:03

Who could get 100 nominations? Sunak, Mordaunt, Johnson

I would be happy with any of those candidates - all three seem very electable to me.

Cottagecheeseisnotcheese · 20/10/2022 18:06

I believe they will push the weakest candidate to drop out so there is someone on office by next weekend I think Rishi Sunak and Penny Mordant could be persuaded to back each other for a top job one PM the other foreign or home secretart Jeremy Hunt staying as chancellor not necessarily the preferred option but perhaps stability until GE there is no way a GE will be called by Tories

asblindasabat · 20/10/2022 18:06

Let King Charles be Prime Minister.

LexMitior · 20/10/2022 18:07

@Clavinova - I am not much of a Tory voter but the only one who is competent for the economy wild ride we have for next two years is Sunak.

I would be worried about who Johnson would have as his chancellor. He bears grudges and makes highly personalized decisions. See sacking of Gove, stupid parties etc.

StoneofDestiny · 20/10/2022 18:10

Johnson is an amoral liar, total chancer but arrogant enough to think the country needs more of him. We don't - and don't need any more Tories - we need a General Election.

Oh and Liz - as for you ignoring the Scots? Your own part is ignoring you!

MarshaBradyo · 20/10/2022 18:32

Clavinova · 20/10/2022 18:03

Who could get 100 nominations? Sunak, Mordaunt, Johnson

I would be happy with any of those candidates - all three seem very electable to me.

This seems a reasonable prediction

jgw1 · 20/10/2022 18:36

Clavinova · 20/10/2022 18:03

Who could get 100 nominations? Sunak, Mordaunt, Johnson

I would be happy with any of those candidates - all three seem very electable to me.

@Clavinova do you have a link for that please?

tinx · 20/10/2022 18:40

asblindasabat · 20/10/2022 18:06

Let King Charles be Prime Minister.

😆🤭

IntentionalError · 20/10/2022 18:44

If he thinks he can get enough support among MPs to get into the final two, he will stand and he will win.

HRTQueen · 20/10/2022 19:01

LexMitior · 20/10/2022 17:45

@HRTQueen - they are unless they significantly improve their decision making. Johnson has created a party of jellies, easily swayed, lacking independence of mind, cowed and beaten. That is why this mess has existed. It isn't just Truss.

One thing the Tories will do is change tactics to stay in power

Two leaders pushed to resign in a matter of months but they are still there the believe they should be in power there will be no early GE as much as possible will be done to win back voters

dont ever under estimate the Tories as a party that will do anything to be in power. This time next year the polls will not be so favourable to Labour. Labour have to stay focused on not just winning the next GE but the following to undo some of the damage done

and as I said before voters are fickle and willing to forget

SleeplessInEngland · 20/10/2022 19:09

Labour would be very happy with Johnson getting the gig again. Mordaunt less so, Sunak even less so.

WonkasBooboofixer · 20/10/2022 19:14

At this point anything could happen.

username345 · 20/10/2022 19:16

SleeplessInEngland · 20/10/2022 19:09

Labour would be very happy with Johnson getting the gig again. Mordaunt less so, Sunak even less so.

It would be a gift to the opposition.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 20/10/2022 19:28

This time next year the polls will not be so favourable to Labour

How do you know?

3 months ago no one could have predicted Labours massive lead and the SNP as the only opposition.

LexMitior · 20/10/2022 19:41

I reckon it's simple.

Johnson has been on holiday.

However, his rivals have been building their cases for leadership for months.

Graham Brady has announced a contest that he already knows the answer to.

The answer is Sunak and Mordaunt.

The ERG and Brexit factions will have to share. They would back Johnson, but I think it's not enough. If the Conservatives want to preserve themselves, they will stick between these two candidates and not give the membership the choice, because their last two picks in Johnson and Truss have been dire.

This is the parliamentary party gaming the rules. There is a vote but not a vote for the membership.

HRTQueen · 20/10/2022 19:41

And do you think the Tories are ignoring this ?

do you think Truss choose to go ?

and doesn’t that just prove how fickle voters can be that many are not so staunch on their support for one party. Voters can be swayed again

Croque · 20/10/2022 19:58

Sadly, it is not looking likely for Bobo. They put out the feelers really early but the feedback has been lukewarm

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 20/10/2022 20:11

SleeplessInEngland · 20/10/2022 19:09

Labour would be very happy with Johnson getting the gig again. Mordaunt less so, Sunak even less so.

Sunak would be an absolute gift to Labour. He's married to a billionaire and we're in a spiralling cost of living crisis. The digs write themselves.

MarshaBradyo · 20/10/2022 20:13

Croque · 20/10/2022 19:58

Sadly, it is not looking likely for Bobo. They put out the feelers really early but the feedback has been lukewarm

Where’s this from?

SleeplessInEngland · 20/10/2022 20:14

Badenoch seriously considering a run, apparently. Something tells me she won’t try the same small state shtick she did last time.

VikingVolva · 20/10/2022 20:14

Croque · 20/10/2022 19:58

Sadly, it is not looking likely for Bobo. They put out the feelers really early but the feedback has been lukewarm

Of the 21% of Tory MPs who have declared, Guido Fawkes has Boris on 38, Rishi on 27 and Penny on 11

NightmareSlashDelightful · 20/10/2022 20:18

Back in the summer, certain polls showed that Mordaunt was the only leadership candidate likely to beat Labour in a general election. Ahead of Sunak and way ahead of Truss. Now obviously a lot’s changed in the subsequent weeks. But I think she’s still got broader appeal than most of the other likely runners.

Johnson is not even yesterday’s man. He’s last week’s man. Not to mention a weak man. His own cabinet and party resigned around him in protest of his inability to run a coherent administration that had the confidence of the cabinet, let alone the party. That was only a few weeks ago. If he catapults himself back into No 10 now it will look like the grossest mockery of political process.

It will cast a stain on all Tories, including the competent and diligent ones. It will be a national embarrassment.

No genuine, considerate, compassionate conservative should want Johnson back. If you’re serious about your party at all, it has to go a different way. Forward, not back.

Croque · 20/10/2022 20:22

I knew Penny for a few years when we were all younger. For a number of reasons, I would never , ever have seen her as a prospective PM. She does not have the essential soft skills required to reach out to non Tories. She is completely Planet Tory.

jgw1 · 20/10/2022 20:23

MarshaBradyo · 20/10/2022 20:13

Where’s this from?

Its disappointing news. If only we had a cuntpaste expert to pop a link up for us.