Are people that want zero immigration racist?

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People that moan about migrants coming to this county - taking our jobs - taking our houses - draining the medical system - not settling in the first country they reach for asylum- they're racist right?

There will always be an element of migration and when you take account of UK born people that leave and non Uk people that enter our country, the net figure is no doubt reasonable. They are often willing to work and contribute to our society and economy - so why the hostility?

Why not accept as a country that we have en element of migration and embrace that, if not because your views are racist?

There are staff and skills shortages and not enough babies being born in most European countries whilst we also have a very ageing elderly and therefore unproductive population. So we all need immigration- we just need to do it cleverly and get the most out of working age immigrants and our own population. We have become unproductive. That applies across society.

100% agree with this.

Just so we’re clear - those who say we’ve an ageing population/need more workers/blah blah - you’re proposing a “windrush II” situation where we “send them back” once they’ve fulfilled their purpose?

Untrue. I’m our city it’s polish people that are arriving in droves and it’s just as crippling.

As far as Americans go … I was speaking to an American woman a few months ago who has come to live in England. She outright admits she has come here for free healthcare and she had ran out of funds in the states. She saw nothing wrong with this at all.

The people accommodated in hotels, assuming you mean the hotels where asylum seekers are placed, aren't allowed to work or claim benefits until/unless they are granted leave to remain.

They get £8 a week to buy all the non-essential items that aren't provided by the hotel, eg clothes, medicines, bus fares, credit for phones.

If asylum applications were processed in a reasonable amount of time, the cost overall would be much less.

This is silly question.

Zero immigration is not achievable and even if it was, then no-one would want it.

Maybe you mean zero net migration ?? 🤔

"every town has groups in the town centres smoking swearing ,brand new everything,aggressive to locals,sexually threatening to females"

I live in East Sussex, but visit towns across Sussex, Kent, Surrey and East Hants regularly. I've never seen these "groups" in any town centre in these counties.

Is it perhaps more of an issue in regions other than the SE?

Well you won't see them in the SE or home counties.

They tend to house migrants/asylum seekers in 'red wall' areas because the cost of accommodation is cheaper..

www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/more-asylum-seekers-being-sent-26272971

@DrawingdowntheMoon Exactly they have just filled up an building in my local village a few moths ago with 100's of immigrants. It's a small area with little to do for them and not alot of job prospects in the area. Our streets are now full of groups of young men hanging around at night it no longer feels safe for most women I speak to. I no longer feel safe walking my dog at night.

It's bugger all to do with race I don't car what colour they are having large groups of men hanging around in the dark in my village where we never used to have this issue is not nice.

No doubt those who think it's great , will claim they would love it, sure you would. 🙄

Exactly this.

So please enlighten us then, how many times do they flood areas with big groups of American and German mainly young men of unknown criminal or background history?

I'd love to know where this is occurring?

Even Lisa Nandy is complaining about it !

www.wigantoday.net/news/mp-calls-for-wigan-hotel-to-stop-housing-asylum-seekers-after-incident-involving-schoolgirl-3391661

Yes

and stupid

People who complain about immigration tend to be the same. Daily fail readers who aren't very bright and members of far right parties. It's disgusting that people wanting to come here for a better life are treated like they are. I came to the Uk from an asian country 8 years ago and was grateful for housing provided by this country. However I have experienced racism with people saying we are an overcrowded country and we shouldn't have any more immigrants. Unfortunately myself and my husband both suffer health issues, but we still contribute to the local community and attend local council meeting etc trying to help others. My children attend a local school which fortunately is a muslim faith school which was one of my concerns prior to coming here and have integrated well.

We need to be more supportive of immigration and stop treating people of different races like scum! We are a rich country and have plenty of room to build more houses for those who wish to build a life here. The ones complaining about "overcrowding" tend to have racist beliefs thinking they are better than immigrants who come here. Immigration puts the Great in Great Britain and is a positive not a negative.

Florenz · Today 14:59
Of course it has to do with immigration. The houses that immigrants live in would have native Britons living in them were it not for immigration.

The irony us that were it not for immigration, the house would probably not have been build in the first place.

Immigrants build homes. Since the UK left the EU, a significant number of construction workers and health care workers have left the country, never to return.

I don't know anyone who wants 0%. I'm concerned about immigration levels though.

Countries need to allow people to leave and therefore enter so zero doesn’t make sense

I’d like us to stop hovering around neither FOM nor controlled and choose either and get it working

Are there no builders here already though?

Zero immigration is not possible. Taking a proportionate share of genuine refugees from war is one thing, but the hordes of young male illegal immigrants is another matter. Many countries have strict requirements for those wishing to come and work there - I have been through n through this myself twice. You have to show that you have a job to go to, have a medical, show proof that you can support yourself until established, etc. What's wrong with that? We are a small country with overstretched resources, and current immigration situation is a joke.

Totally agree

Do you read the Daily Mail by any chance?

Raciam will always be in the world fo some degree. I think being against imagination is not racist. I think you have X amount of space with X amount of resources with X amount of original people. Then you more people coming over. Okay they need soke sort of help. But the bottom line is out space is running out & our resources are running dry & the original people are not being looked after. That's not fair & it angers people. Then you get the same people saying we should have all immigrants here also bleat on about the green space. It's not reasonable. Again these same people care for the environment. What does this sound like? Overpopulation to me. God forbid you say that outloud either, you then fall into the conspiracy bracket. It's just common sense it has nothing to do with race. Again I repeat you can't squash racism out completely as you can't get rid of all the horrors of the world. But I think just logical thinking is key here. The argument is we need immigration to do our jobs & that just leads into a whole new argument. I think that uni costs need to be lowered & our uk PhD shouldn't be able to travel as easy as it does. The argument an endless subject but I think we can't have it all. We not that big of a country there's too many people here with not enough housing and not enough money to make everyone's dreams come true. We aren't Disney land

Like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan or Somalis, then?

I to soudi Arabia and there is multiculturalism. This being said , no country on that list is much to aspire too imo

Other countries have reasonable rates of immigration, but many of them manage it by ensuring immigrants have the skills required to meet a shortage and to ensure they will be self sufficient in a short space of time. As has been said, we’re a really tiny country with one of the largest populations compared to area. The system is groaning. Tbh we simply can’t continue to support the influx of immigrants with no education, no English, no back history re criminality and no money.