Will Liz Truss really last only 17 more days?

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Newspaper reports as scathing as ever, and The Times suggesting Tories are lining up Sunak and Mordaunt as a duo.

can’t stand the woman but surely she’ll hold on for a bit longer - everyone was saying Boris would go much earlier than he did. And why on earth did they vote her into power in the first place 🙄

She claims to have deeply held convictions on the economy - she now can't deliver on those convictions so she should go.

Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.
Groucho Marx

Truss but without the humour the jokes on us.

During the leadership debates there were the cries of RS mansplaining, talking over her etc and I recall cringing over that too.

But I think the noise over that helped let her off the hook and gloss over the fact that she had no credible answers to RS’s assertions that her plans would damage the economy, interest rates would jump to 7% etc

Just the parroted responses

Boss sacks employee for doing exactly what the Boss wanted him to do.

@vera99 - if you don’t laugh you’ll cry

Armando Iannucci has said he won't do another In the Thick of It as reality is more bizarre than any parody and besides, there's no Malcolm Tucker to keep control. The lunatics have taken over the asylum.

She threw KK under the bus. Passed the buck. I'd be livid if I were him , but maybe he made enough money the other week to be blasé about it all and won't be too bitter.
Either that or his plotting to see her off.

She often looks like this to me. She often looks terrified as well.

We need a General Election and now if she had a shred of decency and the Tories along with her they would put it to the country as a matter of national interest. If nothing else it would put them and us out of their misery.

www.ft.com/content/b000ac35-2c42-435a-b418-c4f0d9be1ff6

In the medium term, though, it is hard to see anything that has happened over the past month as a positive for the British economy. Lacking a direct mandate from a general election and having only secured the support of a third of her own MPs in this summer’s leadership election, the prime minister’s reserves of political capital never looked especially well stocked. They are now empty. The chance of meaningful but politically contentious supply-side reforms in areas such as planning, housing and infrastructure is negligible. The default setting of policy now will be drift and the path of least resistance.

Even before this self-inflicted disaster, the UK was heading into recession. Inflation was uncomfortably high, real disposable household income was undergoing its largest fall in decades and interest rates were rising. The odds on Truss’s fiscal gamble paying off always looked very long. It has failed miserably and left the economy in a worse place than it was a month ago.

Jeremy Hunt is in charge now.
He is a smarmy one, two goes at the top job and now his the chancellor ! I bet his smirking his way around Westminster as we speak
Probably getting Ms Truss to buy the coffees and trying to balance the books.
I can't imagine many people being completely happy about it, but if it keeps the party together they might have to just suck it up

We haven't moved on much from the beheadings of the middle ages, I'm sure the mob won't be happy until their heads are on a spike outside the tower and you can start eying up another sucker to verbally kick to death for entertainment.

I heard someone on the radio running a line clearly leaked from Team KK that he'd wanted the reduction in the top rate of income tax floated in advance to prepare the markets for the news and test the water, and that LT overruled him and insisted on having it sprung as a rabbit out of the hat at the end. So I suspect there will be a frosty atmosphere on the streets of Greenwich and there may be trouble ahead for Truss.

I can vividly remember a job I did where I was out of my depth that I had talked myself into with bs the misery that it brought. The dead feeling of going in every day and trying to solve stuff that was beyond me and not having the pre-requisite skills to cope with it. I lasted 6 months, She must be going through that x1000 but without the self-doubt.

Would you prefer is to stroke her arm, say it’ll all be ok? She’s incompetent, not up to the job, and she’s been the main mover in tanking the economy. Even the most fervent dyed-in-the-wool Tories have lost faith her after less than a month on the job (half of which tone she had a free ride politically because of the queen’s death). She deserves all the criticism she gets.

Do you really think any PM has a chance in the current conditions with the incessant ravages of social media.

Maggie, that is deeply unfair to 17 year olds. I'd say a year 7 wanting to be form prefect

Do you really think any PM has a chance in the current conditions with the incessant ravages of social media

Social media isn’t the reason Truss is failing miserably. She ignored all sound advice that her decisions would bring instability in the markets, and carried on anyway, which brings us to where we are.

It’s like the nonsense claims that the “media” bought down Johnson. Absolute bollocks- it was his own colleagues that could no longer work with him anymore due to his lies. Nothing else.

Hhhmmm there seems to be the idea that social media is only utilised by the left.

This deliberately ignores the use of Facebook in the run up to Brexit, the use of social media by Trump (Facebook & Twitter) and the Putin funded bot farms, the prominence of Telegram/Parler etc in the US right wing activism.

In fact Twitter algorithms favour the right.

"Twitter amplifies tweets from right-leaning political parties and news outlets more than from the left, its own research suggests.

Twitter's study examined tweets from political parties and users sharing content from news outlets in seven countries around the world: Canada, France, Germany, Japan, Spain, the UK, and the US.

They found that mainstream parties and outlets on the political right enjoyed higher levels of "algorithmic amplification" compared with their counterparts on the left."

www.bbc.com/news/technology-59011271.amp

There are attributes that you do want mixed together.

Over-inflated ego
Aggression
Ambition
Lack of knowledge
Ruthlessness
Selfishness
Disloyalty
Lying
Idiocy
Stubbornness
Inability to listen
Lack of compassion
Lack of empathy
Killer instinct
Duplicity
A hunger for power
A chip on your shoulder
Delusions of grandeur
A desperate need for approval
Daddy issues

Now, a combination of maybe 2 or three of the above, can make people successful - I would even go so far as to say that some of the above attributes are almost essential to success. However, when you get ALL of the above traits in one person, well..... we now have a case study which psychology students, psychiatrists, political students and economics students can study for decades to come.

The above is what Truss has IN MY HUMBLE OPINION. All of them, in my view.

In 400 years time, Kwasi Kartengs descendents can do a thesis on Liz Truss - The downfall of the UK.

For balance, my Dad thinks she a good-looking woman (he's 72).

Would you prefer is to stroke her arm, say it’ll all be ok? She’s incompetent, not up to the job, and she’s been the main mover in tanking the economy. Even the most fervent dyed-in-the-wool Tories have lost faith her after less than a month on the job (half of which tone she had a free ride politically because of the queen’s death). She deserves all the criticism she gets.

This is the problem though, very little of your rant is true. Is this how you expect anything to be managed, in this histrionic belittling manner? This is an extremely emotional way to go about policy management.

Over the past few years I've watched the general rage mount up to a point now where people are operating at a level of constant fury no matter what happens. The most trivial things are escalated and talked about as if they are a crisis of huge proportions.

The rest of us have to capitulate to this behaviour despite in public life as it's so relentless if the propagators don't get their own way.

The economy isn't tanked. To suggest it can be "tanked" simply reveals your utter triviality. And yet you won't stop ranting.

@Hepwo re the economy - I reckon the thousands of families whose mortgage costs will now massively increase disagree with you. Yes, it is likely they would have increased. But not by as much and not in such an extremely short amount of time. The UK's financial rating has also been downgraded - want to tell us why that is then?

Would you like to tell us what you think is good and competent about Liz Truss? All social media is doing is giving her nowhere to hide.

@Hepwo I won’t stop ranting? Pray do tell me where I ranted. I’ve made two short posts where I said I found her embarrassing and incompetent. If you’d like a rant I can do one. But no, I have not ranted. Nor, I would argue, been histrionic.

And I can assure that this rage hasn’t only been brewing for me in in the last few years. I’ve been matching, protesting, campaigning and furious pretty consistently for the last 40 years. If that makes me “emotional” and “trivial” than so be it. I can take that. I’d rather be that than snide and quietly accepting and blaming everyone but the real culprits.

@Hepwo Re operating in a histrionic manner, how do you evaluate a political party that can't formulate an economic policy that lasts for more than a few months and that changes its leader every other year? Underlying the market turbulence is the judgement that the leaders (various) in charge of the UK economy are not only incompetent but have no mandate. Time to put a serious party in power.