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To park in a parent / child space ?

223 replies

XPD · 08/10/2022 22:51

I have a blue badge (Multiple Sclerosis). I get that it's on the whole a hidden disability (unless you are in a wheelchair). My (in public) problems currently is numbness from the eyes down plus urgency to use the toilet.

Anyway, pulled into a motorway services today. All the disabled spaces were taken, so I parked in a parent / child space. This is the first time I've ever had to do this - and I was at the point of wetting myself. A lady and her partner started (literally) screaming at me for not having a child with me. I have huge problems with my bladder, I'm not sure if I was in the wrong?

What do you think ? Was I in the wrong ?

OP posts:
Lovemelovemydoggie · 09/10/2022 20:24

P&C spaces are enforceable, depending on the parking T&Cs.

Often on private land you can be fined / towed if you do not fulfil the conditions for parking there; namely having a young child.

Sirzy · 09/10/2022 20:27

Lovemelovemydoggie · 09/10/2022 20:24

P&C spaces are enforceable, depending on the parking T&Cs.

Often on private land you can be fined / towed if you do not fulfil the conditions for parking there; namely having a young child.

I would love to see any company try to do that with someone who has a blue badge, I don’t think they would get very far as reasonable adjustment very much allows for people with disabilities to park where is best for them.

GrapesAreMyJam · 09/10/2022 20:31

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Arbesque · 09/10/2022 20:50

They really should just widen all car parking spaces, put disabled spaces up by the door and stop all this nonsense of prioritising parents with children. It just breeds a ridiculous level of entitlement. Lots of people need a wider space.

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 09/10/2022 21:23

Lovemelovemydoggie · 09/10/2022 20:24

P&C spaces are enforceable, depending on the parking T&Cs.

Often on private land you can be fined / towed if you do not fulfil the conditions for parking there; namely having a young child.

Good luck trying if the person had a bb

Ttbhappy · 09/10/2022 21:26

Think people missing the point, the spaces are there for a reason to help parents with children. Kids are unpredictable and parking further away increases risk of kids getting hurt by cars!!

KeepOutingMyselfAnotherNameChange · 09/10/2022 21:32

Anyone can park in parent and child spaces they are just a courtesy space. Yanbu

Sirzy · 09/10/2022 21:32

Ttbhappy · 09/10/2022 21:26

Think people missing the point, the spaces are there for a reason to help parents with children. Kids are unpredictable and parking further away increases risk of kids getting hurt by cars!!

nope Nobody is missing the point.

p and c spaces are handy if free. They aren’t essential. Their are many other car park users who would benefit as much if not more from the extra space and closeness to the store.

p and c spaces do sadly encourage helplessness in a small minority of parents who as a result can’t see beyond the end of their car seat!

KeepOutingMyselfAnotherNameChange · 09/10/2022 21:36

BirdinaHedge · 09/10/2022 11:21

This.

But the “I am special because I have sprogged” brigade always pop up to say the most entitled things on this sort of thread. You only have to look at what princess-mummies say about wheelchair spaces on buses, and how much their needs trump those of an actual wheelchair or mobility aid user.

100% this

MarshaMelrose · 09/10/2022 21:38

KeepOutingMyselfAnotherNameChange · 09/10/2022 21:32

Anyone can park in parent and child spaces they are just a courtesy space. Yanbu

Next time you go to a supermarket car park, check out the signs. You can be fined for parking in a P&C spot without children. Most supermarket car parks are administered by private companies and this is just another way of making money.

FirstnameSuesecondnamePerb · 09/10/2022 21:46

You were fine.
Only an arsehole would comment if you have a blue badge.

reigatecastle · 09/10/2022 21:47

HotDogJumpingFrogHaveACookie · 08/10/2022 22:53

Of course you aren't wrong. You can park in whichever space is the most convenient and appropriate for you. A blue badge denotes a need, whereas a parent and child space merely offers convenience to those with small children.

Exactly this.

What I do think should happen is that there are wider spaces which are chargeable. I think it would concentrate a lot of minds if people had to pay for them, but it would also make them available to people who don't have a blue badge, albeit that you'd have to pay for them. But if you have eg a broken leg you might be happy to pay for the bigger space if you can't find room elsewhere. And parents could decide if they really needed that status symbol SUV or whether they could manage with a normal sized car after all.

Although I suppose if the larger spaces were made chargeable, or more expensive, the CFs would park in the blue badge spaces if they thought they coul get away with it.

reigatecastle · 09/10/2022 21:47

coulD

jamimmi · 09/10/2022 21:56

Ignore them. Dh has blue badge. Most of his disabilities are hidden appart form his sight loss. ( WHITE CANE) . He was asked by someone why he was in a blue badge space _ permit on show. They asked if he was blind and couldn't see the BB sign . Their face was a picture when he said yes. DS who was driving took great delight in calling them a w...er and describing ther faces to me and his dad. On a good day if he can he doesn't use bb space if its safe to walk in a carpark and he's OK. Often it's not. Given BB holders can part on yellow.lines I think a p&c space is fine.

Blocked · 09/10/2022 22:00

Ttbhappy · 09/10/2022 21:26

Think people missing the point, the spaces are there for a reason to help parents with children. Kids are unpredictable and parking further away increases risk of kids getting hurt by cars!!

I think you're missing the point - as useful as P&C spaces are, if a person with a blue badge needs to use one, they're perfectly within their rights to go ahead and use it and should not be challenged on it.

Anyway, surely all parents know the best parking space is near the back (so no one parks beside you) beside the trolley bay (so you can plonk your toddler straight into the trolley and no chance of them running in front of a car)

AutumnalCosyness · 09/10/2022 22:20

You were fine op.

Herejustforthisone · 09/10/2022 22:24

Let’s hope PrincessGuttersnipe is soon banned for being a reprehensible cunt.

My comment will no doubt be deleted but fuck it.

Ladysodor · 09/10/2022 22:47

You behaved reasonably. I personally don’t agree with designated child/parent parking spaces. My kids are both grown up and we didn’t have them when they were little. It’s a choice to be a parent, it’s not your choice to be disabled.

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 09/10/2022 23:31

100% OK to park in a childzone if you have a blue badge. Just ignore them next time OR ask them to report you to the store manager if they're not happy.

x2boys · 10/10/2022 06:31

Ttbhappy · 09/10/2022 21:26

Think people missing the point, the spaces are there for a reason to help parents with children. Kids are unpredictable and parking further away increases risk of kids getting hurt by cars!!

My child is 12 he has a blue badge precisely because of his severe mental impairment which means he is very unpredictable we will park either in the P&C place or disabled places whichever is closer to the door it's far harder trying to keep a 12 year old safer than a 2 year old.

x2boys · 10/10/2022 06:38

ThinWomansBrain · 09/10/2022 19:19

You weren't in the wrong - but if your disability isn't visible, maybe she hadn't seen the blue badge?
Was slightly surprised at an incredibly bad driver (that was why I was watching her) pulled in to a parent and child space yesterday. The child was taller than she was - probably 12-14 ish - definitely didn't require additional space to get his pushchair in and out.

Could have been my child aged 12 who has a blue badge severe autism and learning disabilities, non verbal zero awareness of danger etc ,but it wouldn't have Been immediately uapparent unless you were close enough to listen to his random shrieking there were any issues.

Arbesque · 10/10/2022 08:01

Sirzy · 09/10/2022 21:32

nope Nobody is missing the point.

p and c spaces are handy if free. They aren’t essential. Their are many other car park users who would benefit as much if not more from the extra space and closeness to the store.

p and c spaces do sadly encourage helplessness in a small minority of parents who as a result can’t see beyond the end of their car seat!

I totally agree. Parents have been guiding children across car parks, busy roads etc for decades. Elderly people can't move as quickly out of the way of a reversing or speeding car as a younger person, why shouldn't they be entitled to a space near the door?

MzHz · 10/10/2022 08:04

MarshaMelrose · 08/10/2022 22:56

Parent /child spaces drive me mad. They're always the closest to the doors and they should be the furthest away to tire the little darlings out. And I've seen loads of people use them for like 9 and 10yos who are quite capable of using car doors. And if you go late shopping, they're all empty but you have to park a distance away.
So I say, you park in them if you want. Your need is far greater than theirs.

100% this.

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