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To think Kate/Catherine, Princess of Wales, is one of the luckiest and most admirable women alive?!

445 replies

KohinoorDiamond · 07/10/2022 12:57

She’s a Princess and future Queen Consort. She’s the wife of a Prince and future King. Mother to Princes and a Princess. Mother to a future King and the British royal family’s future bloodline.

She’s very good looking, wealthy, has a good figure and wears lovely clothes. She has mastered the art of ‘do not complain, do not explain’. So, she comes across very well (such as how she handled this yesterday: Princess of Wales challenged during royal visit to Northern Ireland).

Unlike a diamond, I can’t find any flaws in Catherine, Princess of Wales; she comes across as too perfect to fault! She has it all and more.

There’s a lot to admire because she seems to be the luckiest woman alive. What does everyone else think?

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saltofcelery · 07/10/2022 14:43

Is that you, Princess?

sammylady37 · 07/10/2022 14:43

*hardly an essential service, that should say.

ScribblingPixie · 07/10/2022 14:46

I think she is excellent at her job, but I'm surprised she wanted the job. The Royal Family got lucky there for sure.

beneathhereyes · 07/10/2022 14:47

Oh fgs Carol, let us have one day this week where you aren't extolling the virtues of Catherine on MN and begging for agreement.

derxa · 07/10/2022 14:48

Tabbouleh · 07/10/2022 13:08

As the late, great Hilary Mantel aptly put it " she is a shop window mannequin whose only purpose is to breed". That is what I think of her.

What a lovely woman she was 🙄

sammylady37 · 07/10/2022 14:48

Scottishgirl85 · 07/10/2022 14:05

She is fortunate in many ways and leads a superficially lovely life. But goodness I don't envy her. She can never falter, never look like crap for a day, never take her kids to the park, pop to the shops, and just take a look at Camilla at age 75 starting out as Queen consort. What a life sentence.

What? Of course she can ‘look like crap for a day’ - take a look at the court circular and you’ll see that on the majority of days she has no engagements, which means that she can ‘look like crap’, stay in her PJs or whatever on those days.

Kualma · 07/10/2022 14:49

I’m a Republican and I admire her style! However I wouldn’t say she is the luckiest woman on the planet.

Catsstillrock · 07/10/2022 14:49

@KohinoorDiamond what you have described is the patriarchal definition of what a good and successful woman is:

  • derives her status and value from the men in her life
  • is a mother
  • looks good
  • People / men pleasing - never says / does anything out of line.

in return, and as part of the pact, she gets wealth and admiration.

Do you really not see the problems with this, for herself and the rest of us?

she has my sympathy, despite the wealth. I hope in private she has more freedom and autonomy.

i admire the times she’s used her position to support things that would tangibly improve womens lives (turning up at the Sarah Everard vigil)

i regret times she’s gone along with unreasonable asks: the world didn’t need to know when she was in labour.

while I admire her courage in appearing for a photo call shortly after her childrens births, I wish she hadn’t worn heels. It’s downright dangerous to do so at that point (vs having her hair done or putting on a nice dress which anyone might choose to when they’re asked to face a bank of cameras and journalists).

Stokey · 07/10/2022 14:52

Don't know what has amazed me more, this thread or that 20% of respondents agree with you!

NeedAHoliday2021 · 07/10/2022 14:53

She married rich and seems nice but it’s not really something I aspire to. I wouldn’t swap with her.

Characterbuilding · 07/10/2022 14:53

We know as much about her behind closed doors as any other stranger in the street! That’s what she is - just another stranger.

Thepeopleversuswork · 07/10/2022 14:54

I have no particular problem with Kate/Catherine/Princess of Wales or whatever we are supposed to call her. As an individual doing a dull and unpleasant job I quite admire her grit.

She does her (incredibly dull and restrictive) job well for the most part, with dignity and seemingly with kindness. She is well dressed, professional and a decent ambassador for the Royal Family. It's not her fault that she's constitutionally forbidden to have a personality or opinions and she manages that with grace.

On a philosophical level I find the idea that people look up to her as a role model utterly repugnant. The idea that a woman who is professionally neutered and in a permanent state of self-censorship is looked up to by generations of younger women makes me feel a bit sick.

LuciaPopp · 07/10/2022 14:55

Thepeopleversuswork · 07/10/2022 14:54

I have no particular problem with Kate/Catherine/Princess of Wales or whatever we are supposed to call her. As an individual doing a dull and unpleasant job I quite admire her grit.

She does her (incredibly dull and restrictive) job well for the most part, with dignity and seemingly with kindness. She is well dressed, professional and a decent ambassador for the Royal Family. It's not her fault that she's constitutionally forbidden to have a personality or opinions and she manages that with grace.

On a philosophical level I find the idea that people look up to her as a role model utterly repugnant. The idea that a woman who is professionally neutered and in a permanent state of self-censorship is looked up to by generations of younger women makes me feel a bit sick.

Agree with all this.

emmathedilemma · 07/10/2022 14:56

just going to mop up the tea i've spat across my desk.......

ImTheOnlyUpsyOne · 07/10/2022 14:58

KohinoorDiamond · 07/10/2022 12:57

She’s a Princess and future Queen Consort. She’s the wife of a Prince and future King. Mother to Princes and a Princess. Mother to a future King and the British royal family’s future bloodline.

She’s very good looking, wealthy, has a good figure and wears lovely clothes. She has mastered the art of ‘do not complain, do not explain’. So, she comes across very well (such as how she handled this yesterday: Princess of Wales challenged during royal visit to Northern Ireland).

Unlike a diamond, I can’t find any flaws in Catherine, Princess of Wales; she comes across as too perfect to fault! She has it all and more.

There’s a lot to admire because she seems to be the luckiest woman alive. What does everyone else think?

...how she handled the comment was admirable? All she did was ignore the comment and move on. Plenty of people doing that to negative commenta every day of their lives.

derxa · 07/10/2022 14:59

She’s not driving a bin lorry or carrying out surgery, or doing any of the other many essential things to keep society functioning Do you drive a bin lorry?

feellikeanalien · 07/10/2022 15:00

Another day, another "lets bash one of the female royals" thread.🙄

I suppose the only difference is this one is about Catherine rather than Meghan.

KohinoorDiamond · 07/10/2022 15:02

Zebedee55 · 07/10/2022 14:29

I'm not sure whether marrying someone "of status" is to be admired, any more than being born into that family is.

I suppose it's an easy life, in most ways, but I find the whole thing pretty pointless.

I admire people who are where they are because of intelligence or sone sort of genius - she's neither.🤔

I think her genius is in mastering the art of “don’t complain, don’t explain”. The late Queen did it well and Kate/Catherine has seen it works, so she has learned it too. Her job is the survival of the monarchy, because that’s her children future.

Her job is to represent the country abroad and she does that well too.

She’s a likeable figure and that’s quite hard to achieve imo. She hasn’t given a reason to be divisive.

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derxa · 07/10/2022 15:02

wackamole · 07/10/2022 13:05

I'm not sure what's especially great about how she handled the comments in NI? She basically said thanks to the "nice to meet you, better if it was in your own country" person and ignored the "Ireland belongs to the Irish" comment. Which is fine, nothing wrong with it, but pretty much what you'd expect from any royal, or any UK government representative for that matter.

Do you know anything about the history of NI?

Eeksteek · 07/10/2022 15:07

I’m a reluctant monarchist. I think we are a bit of a non-country nowadays. We don’t really make or do anything anymore, so our history is a key part of our national identity. And that means someone has to front it. As long as they are value for money (which I think some are, some aren’t) they don’t behave in immoral ways (again, variable success here, Mountbattens. Try harder) and there aren’t many of them, I’m OK to let them get on with it.

But Jeez, you couldn’t pay me enough. It’s the ultimate anti-feminist role. Only birth or marriage to birth matters, not achievement, you have no free will or free speech, you have to smile through everything, look good, get judged on what you wear/your hair/your figure not on what you say or do. You can never defend yourself. You can do nothing remarkable at all, ever. And you can never, ever leave. She’s basically the whole country’s doll. I have no idea what she thinks or feels about anything, because that’s the only way she can be what everyone wants to project onto her - to be a completely blank canvas. It’s a Godawful way to live, however much luxury comes with it.

KosherDill · 07/10/2022 15:10

I would enjoy the luxury and service she has at her fingertips, but I'd respect her more if she'd developed a proper career/expertise for herself, instead of just being a glorified wife and mother. It would be great to travel the world with the support system she has.

The photos of them shaking cocktails and grinning away mere weeks after the queen's death struck me as inappropriate. I would think a more serious demeanor at least for a few months would have prevailed.

Newusernameaug · 07/10/2022 15:11

What a load of codswallop 😂

vera99 · 07/10/2022 15:12

It looks like they are doing bugger all or somebody isn't updating the website.

www.royal.uk/court-circular

the80sweregreat · 07/10/2022 15:13

Why couldn't they have fun yesterday? She seemed happy enough with the cocktail shaker
They loved the Queen, but they had that huge funeral and ten days of mourning and tributes for someone who was 96. People are allowed to move on after wards
having a bit of laugh is hardly a hanging offense is it ? Plus it was a happy visit , it's what they do.

waltzingparrot · 07/10/2022 15:17

I think the work she is doing through the Royal Foundation regarding early childhood is so important and yet rarely championed by the media who prefer to write about what she is wearing.