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AIBU?

to think my neighbour has no right to complain about this?

117 replies

Cliveandclyde · 06/10/2022 09:47

I live on a street where parking for visitors is a nightmare due to the fact that nearly everyone has a driveway (including us). Therefore when we have visitors we always let them park across our driveway. To be clear, them doing this does not affect the neighbours on either side getting in or out of their own driveways - there is no overhang whatsoever and plenty of space. One of my neighbours has asked me not to let visitors park across my driveway as (his words) it sets a bad example and makes other people think they can park across driveways (I've never seen this happen once).

AIBU to think I should be able to let visitors block my own driveway?!?!

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CombatBarbie · 06/10/2022 11:36

GreyBlossom · 06/10/2022 09:57

Technically it is illegal and they can be fined, as PP says. Obviously it doesn't usually happen because it relies on someone complaining and you're not likely to, but if she does....

She has the "right" to say/complain about what she wants. You get to choose what you do with that.

you can't restrict access to the highway, if a car is reported its a fine. If its reported and its because the owner can't get back onto the driveway it's morally wrong but not an offence.

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Facecream · 06/10/2022 11:40

so if there’s no dropped kerb…

to think my neighbour has no right to complain about this?
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Facecream · 06/10/2022 11:41

If It’s like my diagram attempt can you see the problem?
Ps the bee is on my notepad, it’s not a street with giant bees (I hope)

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girlmom21 · 06/10/2022 11:42

OneTC · 06/10/2022 11:35

Parked here I reckon.

Not actually blocking anything, but not right either

Ahhh good shout... Op?

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Facecream · 06/10/2022 11:43

But @OneTC .. Good thinking but that had a pavement between the home boundary and the road, which is what the OP says isn’t there in her case

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OneTC · 06/10/2022 11:45

Facecream · 06/10/2022 11:43

But @OneTC .. Good thinking but that had a pavement between the home boundary and the road, which is what the OP says isn’t there in her case

Because they're claiming ownership of that bit Grin

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cultkid · 06/10/2022 11:47

@Seeline
I park over my dropped curb and not on the pavement

Nobody is going to report me for it

From the pillar on my driveway to the wall between our front garden and our neighbour's front garden you can park my very long car and my husbands LWB, too. That leaves the same size gap on my neighbours side and they can fit the same length as us

Interesting to hear it is illegal to park over a dropped kerb. The whole road is full of dropped kerbs for accessibility for wheelchairs and the only person who would use the dropped kerb there would be either a post man or someone coming to see me. The footpath is very wide and the road is wide, nobody parks on the footpath here.

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OneTC · 06/10/2022 11:48

But no you're right, I had actually misunderstood the "driveway to road" bit I think

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cultkid · 06/10/2022 11:49

OneTC · 06/10/2022 11:35

Parked here I reckon.

Not actually blocking anything, but not right either

I don't like it when people do that because you can't see as well into the road when you come off the drive. It's dangerous for pedestrians too. I hate it when people park like this, my mother in laws house has exactly this setup and the road often has people literally parked on the footpath with no consideration for wheelchairs and prams to get through. If this is the case then I agree, don't do it .

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MissMaple82 · 06/10/2022 11:49

I notice his door is shaped like a nob!

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Seeline · 06/10/2022 11:50

cultkid · 06/10/2022 11:47

@Seeline
I park over my dropped curb and not on the pavement

Nobody is going to report me for it

From the pillar on my driveway to the wall between our front garden and our neighbour's front garden you can park my very long car and my husbands LWB, too. That leaves the same size gap on my neighbours side and they can fit the same length as us

Interesting to hear it is illegal to park over a dropped kerb. The whole road is full of dropped kerbs for accessibility for wheelchairs and the only person who would use the dropped kerb there would be either a post man or someone coming to see me. The footpath is very wide and the road is wide, nobody parks on the footpath here.

So you can park 2 long cars across your drive on your own property, not on the road, without using anyone else's land to get them in that position?

Where do you live - Buckingham Palace?!

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AryaStarkWolf · 06/10/2022 11:50

Oh come on OP, 4 pages in and no Diagram?? YABU for that :p

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Teateaandmoretea · 06/10/2022 11:50

Yanbu once again the MN mafia are quoting daft law technicalities that have never in history been enforced.

In terms of wheelchair access, yep that’s important but where it is/ how busy the road is/ the number of dropped curbs in the vicinity impacts on this.

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cultkid · 06/10/2022 11:51

@Seeline

No, I wish.

A semi detached 1930s house?

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cultkid · 06/10/2022 11:54

This isn't my house, road or any connection to me but exactly this set up on our road but it is a straight road and two cars can park opposite each other and a lorry carrying a bungalow on the back can still pass through the middle (literally saw this happen last week!)

To help you visualise the type I mean, so no not at all Buckingham Palace! @Seeline

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OhmygodDont · 06/10/2022 11:56

OneTC · 06/10/2022 11:35

Parked here I reckon.

Not actually blocking anything, but not right either

That’s the bit in my street where everyone parks their extra cars and we have wardens as we are a no parking on the verge area. You only get a ticket if on grass.

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Seeline · 06/10/2022 11:57

@cultkid like this?!

to think my neighbour has no right to complain about this?
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MossGrowsFat · 06/10/2022 11:57

Face I had to double take the squashed bee...

Op, we need a diagram, don't think I've ever been on a thread where other people are offering diagrams AND photos. Come on OP sort it out.

Full marks to the diagram guesses.

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Keroppi · 06/10/2022 11:58

D I A G R A M !!!!! banging loud drum

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Facecream · 06/10/2022 11:58

@Teateaandmoretea
but that’s not accurate:
This is the UK law:
It’s More Than A Moral Issue

Parking on a dropped curb or even parking on a curb, you run the risk of getting a PCN. If you receive a penalty charge notice (PCN) for a parking violation, you’ll need to pay as much as £90 for the fine. Parking on a dropped kerb is one of the things that can get you a PCN. Dropped kerb parking isn’t only about the fine you might have to pay though.


It can be as much of a moral issue as a legal one.

Let’s look at what you need to know about dropped kerb legislation.

What Is A Dropped Kerb?

A dropped kerb is a section of pavement that’s lowered to make it easier for people with disabilities to get from the pavement to the road or for vehicles to drive across. They can be in the middle of the block or on a corner but the rules about parking on a dropped kerb are the same no matter where they’re located.

Highway Code Rule #243

Rule 243 of the Highway Code identifies where you are not allowed to park. One of the restrictions is that you can’t part where the kerb is lowered to provide easier access for wheelchairs and powered mobility vehicles. The only exception to the rule is that you are only allowed to stop or park in these places when stationary traffic forces you to do so.

What Leads To A PCN

For dropped kerb parking, this so-called “dropped kerb law” is enforced by either local police or the local council. Complaints are made either through the non-emergency phone number for police or through the council directly. In most cases, people will approach the council will complaints first. Whether they issue a PCN for parking a dropped kerb often depends on how significant the blockage is. If the vehicle is fully blocking the dropped kerb so it impedes people who are mobility-challenged, they’re much more likely to issue a PCN than if the vehicle is not completely blocking access.

A Step Too Far?

It’s not unusual for someone to get a ticket for parking on their own dropped kerb. You can avoid it in most places by registering your vehicle with the local council. They’ll require the make, model, and registration of your vehicle along with proof of residence. Once that information is registered, you’ll be safe parking on your own dropped kerb.

Parking In Front of A Driveway

Parking your vehicle so it blocks a driveway also falls under Rule 243 of the Highway Code. Similar to the litmus test for issuing a PCN for dropped kerb parking, you will generally only receive a ticket if you’re completely blocking access to the driveway. And if a vehicle is left for an extended period of time and is untaxed for over a month, it’s considered abandoned and the local council can remove it.

Parking On A Dropped Kerb Isn’t Worth The Risk

While you may be able to get away with parking on a dropped kerb in some cases, it’s not worth taking a chance. The £90 fine you could receive is much higher than you would pay for parking in a proper car park.

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Twentypast · 06/10/2022 12:01

It's fine. We have a similar problem execpt we have an event venue at the bottom of our street. We get random people blocking driveways. We have the number for the out of hours parking enforcement team and they love coming as they get personal commission for tickets issued. They always check before ticketing whether it's a visitor or random parker and never ticket the vistors. Our neighbours across from us have 3 cars so one is always parked across the driveway and they are never ticketed.

It doesn't affect wheelchair access etc as the whole street practically is dropped curb.

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cultkid · 06/10/2022 12:07

Seeline · 06/10/2022 11:57

@cultkid like this?!

Yes but not on the footpath we park on the road, there are no lines on the road and then we are at least 4 meters from the start of the driveway to the house on our right.

Our driveway (we haven't had the money to do it up yet)
My husband parks his van on our driveway in a straight line in front of our garage which is attached to our house. Then there is a small footpath and a lawn to the left of our house. The wall in the middle is the driveway which mirrors our own. The dropped kerb is only the width of the parking space that my husband uses, for his van. It's not a dropped kerb the whole width and there's a wall at the front for most of our front garden/ drive

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Seeline · 06/10/2022 12:10

@cultkid - yes that's the difference! OP is saying she parks across her drive within her property boundary with another car already parked perpendicular to the road on the drive.

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Piglet89 · 06/10/2022 12:11

@Facecream where is the bee parked?

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Poppins2016 · 06/10/2022 12:12

The other thing to bear in mind is that on some roads, it prevents people across the road from accessing their driveway by restricting the room available to reverse in/drive out.

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