to think my neighbour has no right to complain about this?

[Cliveandclyde]

I live on a street where parking for visitors is a nightmare due to the fact that nearly everyone has a driveway (including us). Therefore when we have visitors we always let them park across our driveway. To be clear, them doing this does not affect the neighbours on either side getting in or out of their own driveways - there is no overhang whatsoever and plenty of space. One of my neighbours has asked me not to let visitors park across my driveway as (his words) it sets a bad example and makes other people think they can park across driveways (I've never seen this happen once).

AIBU to think I should be able to let visitors block my own driveway?!?!

[TooMuchToDoTooLittleInclination]

@Cliveandclyde

we need PHOTOS, st the very very least a diagram from YOU.

[TooMuchToDoTooLittleInclination]

@GasPanic

From that diagram I struggle to see why you wouldn't park the cars in tandem one behind one another like any normal people would.

@GasPanic

lovely as the diagram is (though I'm sad there no flowers or trees) I think she's been a little generous with the length of the driveway. I think in reality there's room for the width of a car, but not the length.

[Facecream]

@cultkid 😃. I think it’s some of the other responders who need to think about what the OP is saying

[cultkid]

@Facecream

@cultkid
The house you posted is not a problem … because there’s a pavement right outside.
So a car parked any way is fine. It doesn’t impede vision.
Likewise driving into a side position with no a drive like the one in the image can be done on the drive. There’s no risk of driving into or onto other people’s property.
A car exiting that house’s space can stop at the boundary from the property to the pavement before moving across the pavement onto the road.
THAT is why you can’t park on pavements because to do so would mean pedestrians walking into the road and a blind spot for the exiting car and cars on the road.
What the OP is saying is that there’s no pavement at all and therefore her visitor will have to turn, most likely reverse directly onto the road and her neighbours, on either side, when leaving their drive cannot see past the visitor’s car because lengthways it blocks their line of sight significantly whereas the way it’d usually be parked would not.
I suspect what the OP’s visitors are doing is parking across her drive on the road but she’s backtracked because she realised that’s wrong and is calling it a “no pavement” street because otherwise it’d be plainly illegal

Yes I agree with you I didn't realise it until @Seeline explained it to me, sorry!

[Facecream]

@Piglet89
Oooh that’s good!! Hadn’t thought of that 😃

[Karatema]

@Cliveandclyde

They park across our driveway but they're on the driveway itself, I don't know how else to explain it really. The driveways are really only designed for one car but our car is tiny so guests can use it too if they park sideways.

You know a diagram is essential for Parking problems! 🤣

[quitelikelyto]

for the love of god OP give us a diagram

[Piglet89]

@Facecream does he, in fact, represent the Mumsnet Hive Mind?

[Facecream]

@cultkid
The house you posted is not a problem … because there’s a pavement right outside.
So a car parked any way is fine. It doesn’t impede vision.
Likewise driving into a side position with no a drive like the one in the image can be done on the drive. There’s no risk of driving into or onto other people’s property.
A car exiting that house’s space can stop at the boundary from the property to the pavement before moving across the pavement onto the road.
THAT is why you can’t park on pavements because to do so would mean pedestrians walking into the road and a blind spot for the exiting car and cars on the road.
What the OP is saying is that there’s no pavement at all and therefore her visitor will have to turn, most likely reverse directly onto the road and her neighbours, on either side, when leaving their drive cannot see past the visitor’s car because lengthways it blocks their line of sight significantly whereas the way it’d usually be parked would not.
I suspect what the OP’s visitors are doing is parking across her drive on the road but she’s backtracked because she realised that’s wrong and is calling it a “no pavement” street because otherwise it’d be plainly illegal

[Beautiful3]

What you're doing is fine. Visitors have to block our drive, to park.

[Facecream]

@Piglet89
He is hovering- waiting to strike at all Pearl clutches and bad parkers alike

[custardbear]

@StopDrivingIntoMyFence

For anyone struggling to picture this. This is how I imagine the OP means they park.

Well Pearl clutching neighbour clearly has a better car and house than OP so thinks themselves entitled to rule the road. I'd suggest taking a rubber and rubbing him out 🤔

[category12]

TBH I see her point - people do tend to follow the herd and you'd be pissed off if someone you didn't know parked there.

[londonrach]

Yanbu but it is illegal so your visitor could get a ticket if a ticket person passes and saw it

[askmenow]

@Floomobal

You can only laugh and ignore. That’s completely batshit.

However, you ARE totally BU to start a parking thread without a diagram. 😉

Diagram definitely needed here. How is the car, perpendicularly parked behind your car, getting off your drive?
Is it having to be driven over a neighbouring property to get back onto the road? 🤔

[cultkid]

@Seeline

Ahh that's no good then! I wouldn't do that it's dangerous!

[Poppins2016]

^ That was meant to quote another post re double yellows/not parking over dropped curbs!

[Poppins2016]

The other thing to bear in mind is that on some roads, it prevents people across the road from accessing their driveway by restricting the room available to reverse in/drive out.

[Piglet89]

@Facecream where is the bee parked?

[Seeline]

@cultkid - yes that's the difference! OP is saying she parks across her drive within her property boundary with another car already parked perpendicular to the road on the drive.

[cultkid]

@Seeline

@cultkid like this?!

Yes but not on the footpath we park on the road, there are no lines on the road and then we are at least 4 meters from the start of the driveway to the house on our right.

Our driveway (we haven't had the money to do it up yet)
My husband parks his van on our driveway in a straight line in front of our garage which is attached to our house. Then there is a small footpath and a lawn to the left of our house. The wall in the middle is the driveway which mirrors our own. The dropped kerb is only the width of the parking space that my husband uses, for his van. It's not a dropped kerb the whole width and there's a wall at the front for most of our front garden/ drive

[Twentypast]

It's fine. We have a similar problem execpt we have an event venue at the bottom of our street. We get random people blocking driveways. We have the number for the out of hours parking enforcement team and they love coming as they get personal commission for tickets issued. They always check before ticketing whether it's a visitor or random parker and never ticket the vistors. Our neighbours across from us have 3 cars so one is always parked across the driveway and they are never ticketed.

It doesn't affect wheelchair access etc as the whole street practically is dropped curb.

[Facecream]

@Teateaandmoretea
but that’s not accurate:
This is the UK law:
It’s More Than A Moral Issue

Parking on a dropped curb or even parking on a curb, you run the risk of getting a PCN. If you receive a penalty charge notice (PCN) for a parking violation, you’ll need to pay as much as £90 for the fine. Parking on a dropped kerb is one of the things that can get you a PCN. Dropped kerb parking isn’t only about the fine you might have to pay though.


It can be as much of a moral issue as a legal one.

Let’s look at what you need to know about dropped kerb legislation.

What Is A Dropped Kerb?

A dropped kerb is a section of pavement that’s lowered to make it easier for people with disabilities to get from the pavement to the road or for vehicles to drive across. They can be in the middle of the block or on a corner but the rules about parking on a dropped kerb are the same no matter where they’re located.

Highway Code Rule #243

Rule 243 of the Highway Code identifies where you are not allowed to park. One of the restrictions is that you can’t part where the kerb is lowered to provide easier access for wheelchairs and powered mobility vehicles. The only exception to the rule is that you are only allowed to stop or park in these places when stationary traffic forces you to do so.

What Leads To A PCN

For dropped kerb parking, this so-called “dropped kerb law” is enforced by either local police or the local council. Complaints are made either through the non-emergency phone number for police or through the council directly. In most cases, people will approach the council will complaints first. Whether they issue a PCN for parking a dropped kerb often depends on how significant the blockage is. If the vehicle is fully blocking the dropped kerb so it impedes people who are mobility-challenged, they’re much more likely to issue a PCN than if the vehicle is not completely blocking access.

A Step Too Far?

It’s not unusual for someone to get a ticket for parking on their own dropped kerb. You can avoid it in most places by registering your vehicle with the local council. They’ll require the make, model, and registration of your vehicle along with proof of residence. Once that information is registered, you’ll be safe parking on your own dropped kerb.

Parking In Front of A Driveway

Parking your vehicle so it blocks a driveway also falls under Rule 243 of the Highway Code. Similar to the litmus test for issuing a PCN for dropped kerb parking, you will generally only receive a ticket if you’re completely blocking access to the driveway. And if a vehicle is left for an extended period of time and is untaxed for over a month, it’s considered abandoned and the local council can remove it.

Parking On A Dropped Kerb Isn’t Worth The Risk

While you may be able to get away with parking on a dropped kerb in some cases, it’s not worth taking a chance. The £90 fine you could receive is much higher than you would pay for parking in a proper car park.

[Keroppi]

D I A G R A M !!!!! banging loud drum

[MossGrowsFat]

Face I had to double take the squashed bee...

Op, we need a diagram, don't think I've ever been on a thread where other people are offering diagrams AND photos. Come on OP sort it out.

Full marks to the diagram guesses.