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To think this bloke is an absolute knob

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Allalongthescotchtower · 30/09/2022 20:57

New central heating system going in. There wasn’t one here before ( we’ve literally just moved in) so the chap who plans the installation turns up and sort of barges in without introducing himself with another chap and they immediately start pacing around the house saying - ‘one here ‘ (radiators ?) ‘run the pipes down here ‘ and so on and so forth . Totally ignoring me and not requesting permission before barging into each room. It’s very obvious I’m decorating and without a word he takes out a pen and draws a big cross in the middle of a freshly painted wall!! I said ‘I’ve just painted that!’ He responds with ‘it’s where the room thermostat is going!’
by now I’m really annoyed . It’s an old property with a cottage feel , think beams and white render on the outside and the rooms are small so it needs thinking about in terms of planning things like this .
he goes outside to the rear patio and seems surprised I’ve followed them, I ask him to clarify what’s going on with the pipes and he says there will be pipes run down the outside of the wall . I say ‘okay so is it your job or mine to paint those to match the render?’
and the cheeky fucker says:
’no we don’t do it, you need to use the proper paint though love , you can’t use indoor paint’.
I’m extremely pissed off. Beyond angry now. I’m 38 , I left home at 18 and moved into a little house, I have renovated and loved homes for 20 years and made them look really nice! I can paint , plaster , tile , repair brickwork and I’ve even refitted doors and architraves all while keeping children alive and studying or working full time! . I had to restrain myself. Surely he could see by my car and my ( okay unfinished but clearly going well) decorating and my possessions that I was a capable and productive adult ?
sadly I don’t get to choose the contractors as I did a mutual exchange into a council property and therefore I’m stuck with this idiot . But it’s just an appalling way to speak to someone and I can’t decide if it’s a mysogynistic thing or because he thinks social housing tenants are all a bit basic or something? For the record it’s outer London and while not poor I can’t afford to ‘buy my own house then’ - before that cohort jump on. I pay the rent from my own pocket and keep the gardens and house looking beautiful.
surely even renters deserve to be treated with some respect like asking to be let in, asking to pass through doorways and not having fresh paint scrawled over and being accused of being daft enough to emulsion copper fucking pipes outdoors?

Or am I being sensitive?

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Puppers · 30/09/2022 21:22

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Trollhunting

"Meh"? Just report it then instead of troll hunting.

TabithaTittlemouse · 30/09/2022 21:23

Did you pull them up on their rudeness?

ChilliBandit · 30/09/2022 21:23

@Crimsonripple - it’s a house association property it’s not the same as private rental.

Allalongthescotchtower · 30/09/2022 21:23

Crimsonripple · 30/09/2022 21:21

I still don't understand why you're doing and paying for so much to be done on a rental property. It's the owners responsibility and a lot of effort from yourself on something you don't own. You could be kicked out once the owner dies.

It’s a social housing tenancy , I swapped with another social housing tenant who had the old lifetime tenancy which I have now got . It’s reasonable to assume I can stay put here for as long as I want .

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Nameless3 · 30/09/2022 21:24

So the old ill lady tenant with dementia exchanged with you?

runlittlemonster · 30/09/2022 21:26

What a knob! The obvious solution is to send him away and finish your painting, you can always pay for a nicer plumber to come in and install your central heating system at a later date.

ChilliBandit · 30/09/2022 21:26

@Nameless3 - what part of this is so unbelievable to you? OP already explained the daughter sorted it out.

KosherDill · 30/09/2022 21:26

What a bunch of miseries on this thread!

I totally get you, OP. He was rude and condescending.

The house sounds adorable; any chance of you sharing photos? I know that could be outing but I love a good cottage. Have fun with your renovation.

Allalongthescotchtower · 30/09/2022 21:27

Lavendersummer · 30/09/2022 21:22

He was not polite. But also this isn’t your property- so he isn’t working for you. He is working for the council.
He should be polite. However you as a tenant dont get to choose where pipes and radiators go as the house doesn’t belong to you.

I didn’t want any input into the locations of pipes and radiators but it’s a funny little house so I did need to know do I could arranged for furniture to be away from those walls and stuff and also to delay finishing the work if those walls are gonna get bashed about . And I was honestly way more miffed by the barging past me as I opened the door and the general tone of distain .

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Warmhandscoldheart · 30/09/2022 21:29

Allalongthescotchtower
You have my sympathies

My house is owned by a Housing Association, I've lived here for over 30 yrs. There are 2 workmen working for their contracted heating company who I refuse to let in my house. They are both obnoxious and derogatory towards me and women in general. I pay my rent monthly so deserve the right to deny access to sexist idiots.

FridayTheThirteeth · 30/09/2022 21:30

As a social housing tenant I imagine they send the contractors round to get on with it and trust the contractors judgement on where to put things.

Leave the painting until work done to save doing again.

Yep, he spoke to you like a silly little 'woman' so complain to the housing company.

Allalongthescotchtower · 30/09/2022 21:30

ChilliBandit · 30/09/2022 21:26

@Nameless3 - what part of this is so unbelievable to you? OP already explained the daughter sorted it out.

Thanks chilli I think this one is bit brainless as well as nameless. I’m just going to ignore these. I feel like the general consensus is that low expectations of social housing contractors is common but that I wasn’t being too precious about the ‘barging’ behaviour . Which is fair enough.

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gamerchick · 30/09/2022 21:31

He did it because you're a woman and you're in SH OP. Stop decorating, the central heating thing is a massive pain in the wotsit.

I had a contractor come in once and refused to talk to me, he talked to my male friend who was visiting instead. Didn't believe I didn't have a dial for the heating and marched about looking for it.

When they put the new heating system and rewiring etc I had no say. I sat and cried at the mess they left for me to deal with afterwards. People on here think that if you're in SH you're less than scum though.

Strange. The council usually remove all carpets before new tenants move in

They do, unless it's an exchange 🙄

I still don't understand why you're doing and paying for so much to be done on a rental property. It's the owners responsibility and a lot of effort from yourself on something you don't own. You could be kicked out once the owner dies

Wut?

Unforgettablefire · 30/09/2022 21:31

I don't know what their problem is op but I've had similar.
I took all my lightbulbs out to change them for energy efficient ones, the council were re-wiring and one of them tried to turn the light on and shouted really loud "is there no fucking lights work in this house!!' It was awful I wanted to crawl away.
When they did the bathroom there was water pouring from the ceiling downstairs so I went running up for towels as I have laminate flooring, I said there's water coming through the ceiling, the guy (a different one) huffed and said it's just from the pipes and carried on working. My neighbour had the same so it's nothing personal.
If they do any more works here I'm staying out until they've finished.

ChilliBandit · 30/09/2022 21:34

Allalongthescotchtower · 30/09/2022 21:30

Thanks chilli I think this one is bit brainless as well as nameless. I’m just going to ignore these. I feel like the general consensus is that low expectations of social housing contractors is common but that I wasn’t being too precious about the ‘barging’ behaviour . Which is fair enough.

I think those are reasonable conclusions OP. I wish you the best of luck in your new home!

Allalongthescotchtower · 30/09/2022 21:34

Warmhandscoldheart · 30/09/2022 21:29

Allalongthescotchtower
You have my sympathies

My house is owned by a Housing Association, I've lived here for over 30 yrs. There are 2 workmen working for their contracted heating company who I refuse to let in my house. They are both obnoxious and derogatory towards me and women in general. I pay my rent monthly so deserve the right to deny access to sexist idiots.

Oh! Well fair play for refusing to have them. I think I’d struggle to have the balls to do that atm ( I’m usually okay but I’m feeling extremely knackered and sensitive with all the upheaval atm and I’d probably end up in tears if I rang their office)
im sorry you had to experience that shit , I’d like to know what kind of parents raise men like that?!
my boys can be obnoxious at times to each other and other lads but they’re infinitely respectful to adults and especially women because they know that sexist and derogatory is never a good look.

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FromageRouge · 30/09/2022 21:34

Allalongthescotchtower · 30/09/2022 21:05

Because the old lady who had this house before us had been really unwell for some time, it was very sad and quite gross . We had to live in a hotel for a week while we ripped out carpets that were soaked in body fluids and the walls resembled those from the first Saw movie, dogs had chewed the wood work etc etc . It honestly couldn’t be left , not a single room or wall could be ‘lived with ‘ for any amount of time. It’s a huge project but there are certain qualities to this place we really needed and it’s opposite a special school for my littlest boy so it was worth it .

You did a mutual exchange with someone so ill that bodily fluids were sprayed up the walls?! Sounds fun. How smoothly did that go? Who packed her house up and moved her?

Nameless3 · 30/09/2022 21:35

Again I ask why would you decorate a house that you knew was going to have a new heating system fitted?

LuckyLil · 30/09/2022 21:36

You can complain if you're not happy with the contractor the council send. They have more than one boiler engineer. Mine made a right mess and put a filthy old water tank in the middle of my living room carpet with nothing underneath it and rusty water left pissing out all over my carpet because he couldn't be bothered to take it outside. I was onto his boss straight away giving them a bollocking for treating my home like a tip. They left so much masonry dust and crap everywhere that it got inside the boiler and it packed up after 3 months. They hadn't even flushed the crit out of the new system. Speak up and complain. You don't have to put up with this. They should be treating you and your home courteously and respectfully. Sometimes they need a gentle reminder on that.

gamerchick · 30/09/2022 21:37

Nameless3 · 30/09/2022 21:35

Again I ask why would you decorate a house that you knew was going to have a new heating system fitted?

Because it's tough living in someone else's minging? Hardly a hard thing to picture is it? Hmm

ChilliBandit · 30/09/2022 21:37

If people RTFT they’d see OP had answered the questions about why decorating and how the exchanged was arranged!!

Nameless3 · 30/09/2022 21:39

gamerchick · 30/09/2022 21:37

Because it's tough living in someone else's minging? Hardly a hard thing to picture is it? Hmm

I'm not sure how an old lady with dementia could consent to an exchange, But what do I know?

RJnomore1 · 30/09/2022 21:41

I still think he needs social skills but did you expect him to ask each and every time he entered a room or am I misunderstanding?

I’m a home owner and if someone arrives to do a whole house job (I had new ch when we moved 3 years ago) I’m expecting them to go round where they need to not having to usher them all the way.

i get why you’re decorating now but honestly don’t expect that to be it. You’re going to have to redo.

I bet he’s had folk emulsion outdoors too. I think the way he presented can be improved but not what he did. It’s equally as infuriating when you’re handing them cash directly btw. And it still happens all the time. If they turn up - at least sh contractors generally do turn up.

FromageRouge · 30/09/2022 21:41

Nameless3 · 30/09/2022 21:39

I'm not sure how an old lady with dementia could consent to an exchange, But what do I know?

Yes, I missed the dementia post initially. How could she sign to assign the tenancy?

Sorry, been completely distracted by the “move from hell” aspect, but wow. You’re sort of lucky it went through OP.

As for disrespectful workmen, speak to the landlord and explain you want someone else who can manage basic courtesy.

ChilliBandit · 30/09/2022 21:42

@Nameless3 - Power of Attorney would be one. Why not report and move on, why be such an arse about this?