Liz Truss - why didn't we realise?

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Turn the clock back a month, and we knew she was stupid, and that more than likely she was the wrong choice for a sensible, responsible prime minister - but did people join the dots and realise that she was such an ideologue / so in thrall to ideologues?

AIBU to say that the media didn't spell out exactly what a Truss premiership meant?

She and Kwazi have written a book on exactly what's happening now for god's sake! Why wasn't the possibility they would act on it examined in more detail?

I'm not a member of the Tory party - did they realise what they were voting for?

Badenoch hadn't stabbed their beloved Johnson. I think it's a combination of the two things and Sunak had both of them against him.

She's done exactly what she said she was going to do. To the letter.

You must be one of the people who just knows Labour would be even worse without finding out what anyone's saying they'll do.

Last year for the first time I dated a Tory. (I'd describe myself as a Green Centrist these days.) He adored Boris, and I was struck by his ability to believe whatever made his nostrils flare with optimism, even if patently untrue. I recall him reading a Times headline where the take on the climate crisis was that the British wine industry would be quids in. We are no longer seeing each other.

oh and where the rivers are flowing in shit - but they've achieved that already.

The Tory membership decided to vote for her anyway, so one can only presume that this is what they wanted

which is why we should have a USA style system and a general election now.

there is such a wide variation between different Tory leaders styles. People may have voted Tory in the last election but they were voting for Boris. Then we end up where a tiny minority of Tory party members have voted for this incompetent self serving idiot. Shouldn’t be allowed. I’m so angry. And we are stuck with her for two years!

For years the Tory party has intervened in the free market to benefit homeowners of all kinds and not just older or mortgage free ones. A direct corollary of those policies has been relative worsening of the financial positions and lives of those still renting. I feel sorry for those who have recently bought potentially at the top of the market, they are victims of the whole fiasco. But many homeowners including the heavily mortgaged and those facing steep mortgage rises don’t actually seems to realise that they have had these benefits, ones that have directly made others poorer. Things swing around and they think they are hard done by.

Interesting. Thanks

Nowhere in the world has anyone been dumb enough to leave one of most powerful trading blocks. Everyone else is trying to get into them.

The entire project is madness.

The information was out there for everyone to see - none of this should come as a surprise

Absolutely.

And it’s a terrible shame that the first black chancellor ever is an ideological loon.

Well, it's like voting for the "Face-Eating Leopard Party" and then being surprised and horrified when the leopards eat your face....

BREAKING - Rishi is not attending the Tory conference!

twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1574332512800833537

It was in the spectator, 31st Aug

I think the extended time when a portion of the Labour Party had their own ideologue and unelectable leader was so bad for the country, we needed a real opposition and they just weren’t there. So the Tories got even lazier and more complacent and the already abysmal standard of their people sunk even lower. Now we have a new incompetent ideologue emerging from that shallow pool. Ugh. It almost makes me wish the PM had to be a proven pragmatist who has never been a member of any political party.

Some of us did realise, Op. Some of us remembered her baa-brained ineptitude from her previous Government jobs and shuddered at the thought of her as PM.
Rishi Sunak was always the bigger threat to the left and their MPs knew it.

Still, at least she hasn't taken us into a nuclear war just yet, though I see some factions are starting to prepare us for that eventuality.
Who knows? She's only had a month. Maybe by Christmas... 🤷‍♀️

I'm not surprise, but I'm not a Tory and so didn't go all starry-eyed over the Thatcher impersonations. I think what PPs have said about Johnson are accurate - the tories I know persist in defending him and so would never have voted for Sunak the Betrayer. And so here we are, in the supposed mother of parliamentary democracy, apparently now an oligarchy. Falling fast and hard.

Because I'm not a mad ideologue who calls people with different views from me evil and liars? And I especially don't call people liars who have been completely and publicly upfront and honest about what they are going to do and then did it. The fact that you can call Liz a liar when she is doing exactly what she said she would destroys your own credibility.

I can't stand her or what she is doing but I keep my criticism of people to things that I can base in actual evidence of what they have done or said.

Some analysts thought she was selected because people thought she was more controllable.

I seem to remember something about anybody but Boris.

What's the odds she turns up in Kyiv in camo and does a walkabout with Zelenksy with her chequebook out?

Rishi Sunak clearly explained what would happen and they voted for her anyway.

The thing about Liz is, she tells the membership membership what they want to hear. That it's not reality doesn't matter, reality is all hard and stuff.

I'm not a conservative so didn't have a vote, but I knew. It was obvious she would be a disaster, just like it was obvious that Brexit would be a disaster as would Johnson . The information was there. Sadly some people don't want facts they don't want to listen to experts just people who agree with them. Anyone who disagrees is part of the loony left.

The Brexiters in the party thought she was more controllable. They want her to continue with the Brexit plan.

Labour would take anything to get in and then we will be well and truly more fucked than we ever were in the history of politics