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Rupa Huq

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derxa · 27/09/2022 14:42

www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/rupa-huq-jake-berry-keir-starmer-kwasi-kwarteng-labour-b1028459.html
Just when I'm starting to get on board with voting Labour, one of their MPs comes out with something like this.
Ms Huq was said to be sitting next to Labour chairwoman Anneliese Dodds when she made the remarks.
In the audio, Ms Huq could be heard saying: “Superficially he is a black man.
“He went to Eton, I think, he went to a very expensive prep school, all the way through, the top schools in the country.
“If you hear him on the Today programme, you wouldn’t know he is black.”

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Alltheprettyseahorses · 28/09/2022 13:01

Alltheholidays · 28/09/2022 12:45

@Alltheprettyseahorses Ok, fair enough. I didn’t know that, but you can’t not accept that he’s said a whole lot of other very objectionable stuff!

No kidding! He was AWFUL! And on that I'm sure we can all agree 😁

gnilliwdog · 28/09/2022 13:02

@Quirkyme Yes, of course you have every right to be offended as a member of a minority group. The only reason to mention that views vary is because RH was discussing how to improve outcomes for black and ethnic minority communities. So, it is important to acknowledge that people have different ideas of how to achieve successful representation in government. I do not condone her comments or agree with her assumptions and I am sorry for the offence they have caused you.

MarshaBradyo · 28/09/2022 13:02

fallinover · 28/09/2022 12:55

It is really weird to think that authentic black people are all poor and talk with street accents.

There is an entire continent of black people with every range of class, wealth and accent contained there.

Exactly

It’s off to read "said what we were all thinking" that’s wrong and very low standards

potniatheron · 28/09/2022 13:06

Alltheprettyseahorses · 28/09/2022 12:39

Johnson didn't quite do that though. His words were appalling, that is indisputable, but he was satirising the POV of Blair on his foreign visits rather than using racist slurs 'as himself' as it were.

Yes, ironically Johnson was satirising the exact sort of patronising attitude the Left adopts to people of colour as Huq showed in her racist comments.

bellac11 · 28/09/2022 13:14

potniatheron · 28/09/2022 13:06

Yes, ironically Johnson was satirising the exact sort of patronising attitude the Left adopts to people of colour as Huq showed in her racist comments.

Yes its embarrassing that she has now made this an accurate representation.

RentingIsTheWayToHumpf · 28/09/2022 13:21

For some of the Far Left, racisim is a feature not a bug.

Absolutely this. And sexism too.

But what grates 1 million times more with racism from the left is that they think they are being good and benevolent and that in the name of achieving good and benevolent policies socialist ideals society being racist is ok because you are being racist for a good cause. It is the blatantly inhumane attitudes that have always, thought history, been proudly and ignorantly displayed by Marxists / socialists / communists. At least Toris are not hypocritical, they are proudly Machiavellian but Rupa Huq and people on the left of a similar ilk believe they are being moral making racist comments to convey policy ideas. Self satisfied and idiotic. Thankfully Starmer got rid of her, what an embarrassment.

Alltheholidays · 28/09/2022 13:24

I’m sure RH will get the whip restored.

Eskarina1 · 28/09/2022 13:25

I think it was a terrible thing to say and she should have had the whip removed.

But... Would a white mp have been asked for the positives in this budget? A budget

Eskarina1 · 28/09/2022 13:28

Apologies hit post too soon...

A budget that even Tory mps appear to hate.

Surely being asked that question, because she - like Kwasi Kwarteng is not white - is a microaggression too.

It would have been like asking my mum in the 80s whether Thatcher was doing anything positive for women.

luckylavender · 28/09/2022 13:39

Gevrgrgrtv · 27/09/2022 16:05

If a Tory member said that it’d be in the news for weeks

If a Tory member said it then they wouldn't have been dealt with so quickly. After all the Tories make PMs out of people who say speak of letterboxes. Hide alleged rapists & sexual predators.

potniatheron · 28/09/2022 13:40

RentingIsTheWayToHumpf · 28/09/2022 13:21

For some of the Far Left, racisim is a feature not a bug.

Absolutely this. And sexism too.

But what grates 1 million times more with racism from the left is that they think they are being good and benevolent and that in the name of achieving good and benevolent policies socialist ideals society being racist is ok because you are being racist for a good cause. It is the blatantly inhumane attitudes that have always, thought history, been proudly and ignorantly displayed by Marxists / socialists / communists. At least Toris are not hypocritical, they are proudly Machiavellian but Rupa Huq and people on the left of a similar ilk believe they are being moral making racist comments to convey policy ideas. Self satisfied and idiotic. Thankfully Starmer got rid of her, what an embarrassment.

Yes. Save me from the benevolence of the poeple who know what's best for me.

Anyone who says that racism has no place in Marxism can safely be ignored as they won't have read any Marx. Apart from his constant homilies on the 'cockroaches' who are 'sub human' - ie the Jews (Marx, like Hitler, and indeed like some Corbynisttas, believed that Big Capitalism was essentially inseparable from Judaism), he also refers repeatedly to Black people by the 'n' word and laments that they will never be up to the intellectual and civic standard of white people and therefore socialism is not for them.

It's all there in his letters to Engels for anyone to read which is why I simply do not engage in debate with any self-described Marxists who do not know about Marx's theories of race.

Clymene · 28/09/2022 13:42

She's a despicable racist and she should stand down.

LadyWithLapdog · 28/09/2022 13:48

luckylavender · 28/09/2022 13:39

If a Tory member said it then they wouldn't have been dealt with so quickly. After all the Tories make PMs out of people who say speak of letterboxes. Hide alleged rapists & sexual predators.

Agreed. The Tories elected to highest office a man talking of bumboys, letterboxes and picaninnies. Spare us from what you think the Tories would have done. They haven’t. They slobbered over that vile Johnson. “Oh BoJo, BoJo, you’re so funny and you’re my friend”.

KS dealt with it swiftly and I hope RH and all who thought in any way this was acceptable will have learnt a lesson. Now move on.

ElliePhillips · 28/09/2022 13:52

If you are not black it is not up to you to say when we should "move on" from this horribly racist insult.

LadyWithLapdog · 28/09/2022 13:54

@ElliePhillips heh? Do you have the be black to comment? Who’s making generalisations now? Do all black people think the same? BTW maybe I am, how would you know?

ElliePhillips · 28/09/2022 14:03

@LadyWithLapdog I bet you are not.

RentingIsTheWayToHumpf · 28/09/2022 14:11

Now move on.
WTF??

Agreed @potniatheron
Rupa Huq thinks that to speak up for the good black people (disadvantaged black people) she is entitled to engage in, promote and validate racist rhetoric. I think that by publicly saying that Kwasi Kwarteng is not actually black she highlighted the fact that he is black (but privileged so scum in her eyes). She dehumanised him, plain and simple. Not just that, she demonstrated that it is okay to dehumanise black people to convey her policy ideas.

She has committed a hate crime and abused her position as MP to promote hate and ultimately violence (physical, verbal, micro aggression etc.) Nice.

ElliePhillips · 28/09/2022 14:15

@RentingIsTheWayToHumpf Bravo. You have so perfectly expressed exactly how I feel about this Huq/Kwateng issue but was too upset to put into words. Thank you.

RentingIsTheWayToHumpf · 28/09/2022 14:21

She dehumanised him, plain and simple. Not just that, she demonstrated that it is okay to dehumanise black people to convey her policy ideas.

To add: she demonstrated that it is okay to dehumanise black people to help convey Labour policies.

She has weaponised Kwasi Kwarteng skin colour / race identity to attack his politics and showed herself to be racist or dumb or both.

potniatheron · 28/09/2022 14:23

RentingIsTheWayToHumpf · 28/09/2022 14:11

Now move on.
WTF??

Agreed @potniatheron
Rupa Huq thinks that to speak up for the good black people (disadvantaged black people) she is entitled to engage in, promote and validate racist rhetoric. I think that by publicly saying that Kwasi Kwarteng is not actually black she highlighted the fact that he is black (but privileged so scum in her eyes). She dehumanised him, plain and simple. Not just that, she demonstrated that it is okay to dehumanise black people to convey her policy ideas.

She has committed a hate crime and abused her position as MP to promote hate and ultimately violence (physical, verbal, micro aggression etc.) Nice.

For me it is a very colonialist way of thinking. Huq's sentiments are founded in a deeply wired way of thinking amongst the Far Left which goes: "Oh, these poor downtrodden People of Colour. We will look after them and give them handouts, after all they're simpply not capable of thinking for themselves, making their own money or building up generational wealth. They're not capable of making moral choices so we must subject them to the tyranny of low expectations. And if they do, well... they're not really Black."

bellac11 · 28/09/2022 14:25

potniatheron · 28/09/2022 14:23

For me it is a very colonialist way of thinking. Huq's sentiments are founded in a deeply wired way of thinking amongst the Far Left which goes: "Oh, these poor downtrodden People of Colour. We will look after them and give them handouts, after all they're simpply not capable of thinking for themselves, making their own money or building up generational wealth. They're not capable of making moral choices so we must subject them to the tyranny of low expectations. And if they do, well... they're not really Black."

That is exactly it and why its so shocking to hear the apologists say 'well its what everyone's thinking'

Really? I stand by what I said earlier, they are part of the problem if thats what they are really thinking.

Gymrabbit · 28/09/2022 16:21

Lunar270

you hang around with bigots and think racial slurs are fine as long as they come from people of the same race.

why was it fine for Ferdinand to use a racial slur against Ashley Cole just because Cole sided with John Terry over him? I’d love to hear your justification. Cole was extremely offended by the slut so this wasn’t like your friends calling you racial slurs but you being fine with it.

and I’ve heard women on here called misogynists, handmaidens etc but not men as that would be nonsensical - like saying a pakistani person is white just because you don’t agree with them.

Gymrabbit · 28/09/2022 16:23

potniatheron

totally agree. Some on the left are horrified when black people are successful because it destroys their narrative that only the left can help them.

phishy · 28/09/2022 16:46

derxa · 27/09/2022 22:07

I agree. I'm white but if I was was black I would find it bloody horrendous

What does your husband think?

Lunar270 · 28/09/2022 17:44

Gymrabbit · 28/09/2022 16:21

Lunar270

you hang around with bigots and think racial slurs are fine as long as they come from people of the same race.

why was it fine for Ferdinand to use a racial slur against Ashley Cole just because Cole sided with John Terry over him? I’d love to hear your justification. Cole was extremely offended by the slut so this wasn’t like your friends calling you racial slurs but you being fine with it.

and I’ve heard women on here called misogynists, handmaidens etc but not men as that would be nonsensical - like saying a pakistani person is white just because you don’t agree with them.

I think you need to look up the meaning of bigot but anyway.

I don't need to justify Rio because I'm not black and it's not my place to tell black people what language they can use. It's highly questionable whether a racial slur has the same meaning when used against others of the same race. You clearly disagree but many don't. The difference is, I'm not judging whereas you are telling me what's right and wrong. As per the N word, it's not really for me to 'splain' to black people whether that's offensive or not. Are you black? If so perhaps you can explain the nuances of the N word.

I've seen women on hear swear blind that another woman was a man as no woman could possibly say xyz.

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