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To be pissed off that Davina McCall and Sainsbury's think that 50% of "people" go through the Menopause

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ButterYourMuffin · 26/09/2022 18:54

Standing in bloody long queue at Sainsburys this afternoon (as they only open 1 bloody till even when 6 people have trolleys full - I know that's another thread ...) so not in a great mood. Then over the speaker comes Davina with "Hi, I'm Davina and I want to talk about the Menopause." Ok, I think, being at that age, then "Did you know that 50% of PEOPLE go through the menopause?" WTF!!

How to make a menopausal WOMAN really angry.

AIBU to say that Sainsburys have lost my custom?

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CandyLeBonBon · 26/09/2022 19:24

It's tje same as saying 50% of the population imo. I'm usually pretty steadfast on the erasure of the word 'woman' but in this instance, saying 50% of people gives a stark view of a condition that affects women. Sadly, if you say anything about 'women's problems' a large proportion of the other 50% switch off. I think this is a way of wording it to make everybody take more notice.

letsghostdance · 26/09/2022 19:25

Imagine trying so hard to be offended.

DarlingDarwin · 26/09/2022 19:27

YABU. It’s showing that half of us go through it so it’s a big deal.

defo over reacting.

ChocChipOwl · 26/09/2022 19:27

You are SO right OP.

What's wrong with saying ' did you know that all women will go through the menopause?'

What's so hard about that? Oh hang on. Not woke enough is it? Might offend the menz

ButterYourMuffin · 26/09/2022 19:27

It's a bit harsh to suggest that I need therapy. No need to get so personal thanks.

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ButterYourMuffin · 26/09/2022 19:29

That was for @candycaneframe btw. Don't be so rude.

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DontTouchThat · 26/09/2022 19:30

She could have said did you know all women will go through menopause, but she didn’t because woman has become a dirty word.
We can pretend that’s not the case but we know it is.

SirChenjins · 26/09/2022 19:31

Oh OP, you know it only becomes an important issue when it’s set against what men (in whatever form they’re choosing to take that day) will do.

The stat is a meaningless one anyway as 50% of ‘people’ won’t go through it for various reasons.

RoseByAnyOtherName · 26/09/2022 19:31

Females make up more than 50% of the population. Females are not a minority from a numerical perspective.

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/populationestimates/bulletins/populationandhouseholdestimatesenglandandwales/census2021#:~:text=4.-,Age%20and%20sex%20of%20the%20population,female%20and%2049.2%25%20were%20male.

I would be more annoyed that Davina McCall/Sainsburys are inaccurately representing the female population as less significant than it actually is. (For context, almost as big a majority as the 'overwhelming' Brexit majority!)

Charles11 · 26/09/2022 19:32

I agree with you op.
It's actually a ridiculous statement even if it's factually correct (which it might not be. I thought women were 51% of the population?)
What if English isn't your first language and it confuses men or women don't realise that it definitely will be affecting them.
So ridiculous and unnecessary.

Toseland · 26/09/2022 19:32

I think in today's climate with the word woman being removed from langage everywhere Sainsbury's should be more respectful to women (surely the majority of their customers?) and use our preferred terms. I'm so angry, particularly at 'chestfeeding'!
Also isn't it odd that menopause is talked about so much atm?

Sceptre86 · 26/09/2022 19:32

It's not something I'd get offended over, it's just a way of hitting home that half the population is affected at done point.

candycaneframe · 26/09/2022 19:32

DontTouchThat · 26/09/2022 19:30

She could have said did you know all women will go through menopause, but she didn’t because woman has become a dirty word.
We can pretend that’s not the case but we know it is.

Except it's not just women who go through the menopause

Transmen also go through the menopause

When will people on here stop frothing over inclusivity

candycaneframe · 26/09/2022 19:33

Toseland · 26/09/2022 19:32

I think in today's climate with the word woman being removed from langage everywhere Sainsbury's should be more respectful to women (surely the majority of their customers?) and use our preferred terms. I'm so angry, particularly at 'chestfeeding'!
Also isn't it odd that menopause is talked about so much atm?

But that's your preferred term

I don't mind them saying people, neither does any woman I know irl.

You have a minority opinion on the matter

Oblomov22 · 26/09/2022 19:33

FFS you've totally missed the point. The whole point of this is the fact that she's saying that 50% of the people of the population are women. half of people do go through it either mildly or easily or horrifically and the fact is that half of us are affected by this, so why isn't it talked about more. you've missed the whole fucking point. She's just using the pun to highlight the whole issue.

ButterYourMuffin · 26/09/2022 19:35

For those of you who are now attacking me please read my other replies before being so personal.

I have already admitted that it was an overreaction.

Am now done with this. Apologies if I have offended anyone

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Vapeyvapevape · 26/09/2022 19:36

We had an article in our works magazine about the menopause , it said 'this is for women and other people that menstruate'.

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 26/09/2022 19:36

YABU to get so het up over a statement that is (give or take a couple of percent) true.

Nobody is being g unreasonable if they could happily live without ever seeing or hearing from bloody Davina ever again.

Imissmoominmama · 26/09/2022 19:36

I hear that differently. She’s saying, this is a big deal, it’s 50% of the population, so take bloody notice!!

It’s time all people realised that the menopause can be a real issue, rather than something to be spoken about in hushed tones.

Funnily enough, I sent DH a link to something Davina has done earlier today. He keeps accusing me of losing my sense of humour, and she explains it so much better than me!

unchienandalucia · 26/09/2022 19:36

She is pointing out that it is half of the population. That is a good thing. Stop trying to be offended ffs.

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 26/09/2022 19:37

Slavetotherhythm · 26/09/2022 19:21

It’s stupid terminology. What’s wrong with saying “half the population (If indeed it is that - in some countries it’s not quite 50% and in others, it’s more) goes through the menopause”?

Currently it is ambiguous and opaque. My initial thoughts were that it sounds like 50% goes through the menopause at the same time

Also, yes, why is the menopause suddenly a selling product?

'Half the population' and '50 percent of people' are exactly the same!

Natty13 · 26/09/2022 19:38

ButterYourMuffin · 26/09/2022 19:01

But it's the lack of mentioning that it is women that go through the menopause. Would it say 50% of people should get a prostate check?

It is well evidenced that things women go through get much less research, finding and attention despite us making up 50% of the population.

Period health, same.
Contraceptive health, same.
Etc...

I see it as 50% of all people go through menopause but it gets like 3% (made up number) of the funding compared to something else like, say, dementia or diabetes (random examples) which affects a lot less people.

We make up 50% of the population and something that affects all of us should get a LOT more attention. Its pointing that out.

LuciferRising · 26/09/2022 19:38

50%? Does that mean potentially my husband could go through it? It suggests that to me.

YennefersDress · 26/09/2022 19:39

Could it not have been worded better though? Whilst factually correct, saying something like 'every single woman- 50% of the population' would sound better, centre women but still get across the stats, in case people struggle with the concept. And fwiw I don't think men are any more inclined to listen anyway, as soon as they hear menopause they'll switch off anyway.

SparrowsNest · 26/09/2022 19:40

FourEyesGood · 26/09/2022 18:57

It’s factually correct, because women make up 50% of people! Stop looking for reasons to be offended.

This!