To ask you to think twice about eating chicken regularly

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...it's just not sustainable for us to consume as much as we do.

Intensive chicken farming is polluting and destroying our rivers and also potentially causing breathing difficulties and lung issues in those who live near farms spraying chicken / other animal manure as fertilizer.

Really worrying too, at a time when govt are ripping up EU regs on environmental laws that will further destroy our rivers and the animals, plants and people that rely on them (along with the shit already pumped into them...).

www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/sep/25/chicken-farm-giant-linked-to-river-wye-decline-was-sued-over-water-blight-in-us

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jan/14/muck-spreading-could-be-banned-to-reduce-air-pollution

inews.co.uk/news/brexit-bonfire-environment-regulations-otters-dolphins-birds-conservationists-1875799

Maybe stop Being so selfish. It's not just about what tastes nice for you for the 5 minutes or less that you are eating it

Animal products are part of a healthy, balanced diet for the vast majority of people.
Today I’ve had, yogurt for breakfast. Chicken salad for lunch. Beef chilli for dinner.

Pretty normal! It’s hardly selfish for humans to eat food they were designed to eat.

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I'm somewhat lactose intolerant as is DS and his partner. The Ben & Jerry chocolate brownie is a must have in our freezer with fresh fruit it's gorgeous. The grandchildren love the caramel one. I drink lactose free milk, can eat brie. I am concerned about women who don't eat some dairy bone strength wise. I've a couple of friends with osteoporosis diagnosed in their fifties. The Meds they have to take are grim

Designed? I wasn't designed

stop trying to run other peoples lives, control freak

Sorry but being vegan doesn't solve all the world's problems.

There are large amounts of land that cannot be used to grow crops.

Some cultures are defined by their livestock, you would end the way of life for many people.

You have to eat more vegetables to get the same nutrients as you get from animal protein.

You would still need to control pests to protect crops, so what are you going to do with the rabbits you shoot?

How are you going to manage things like deer?

What are you going to feed to babies who cannot be breast fed?

Reducing meat consumption, particularly in the west would probably benefit the world, but not stopping it all together.

There's such a naggy preachy element from some vegans. It's always been like that. And it will never make a difference. No one is ever going to look at these threads and think, ooo, I'll swap meat for lentils and vegan subs. It's just not going to happen.

OP post is pretty moderate - asking to cut back not go vegan. It’s a sensible approach.

no one needs to eat meat twice a day. Most Brits eat twice as much protein as they need.

climate scientists are saying we can’t sustain the current levels of meat production.

I guess it sounds ‘naggy’ as people feel told off or guilty about eating animals. It’s uncomfortable to face that.

Meat consumption has fallen by 18% in the UK in the past 3 years so clearly lots of people ARE listening.

Price is also a factor. Welfare issues and climate concerns are given as reasons in research.

I only buy free range chicken and outdoor bred pork. It is a lot more expensive so we just eat less of it and bulk meals out with vegetables etc.

Of course it makes a difference! Why do you think people do look into it and change their diet? Me included.

Like with many things, when I hear of new things or new information, I look into it and if it makes sense, i change or try to change.

Well it is. Because it's delicious and high in protein.

I don't really care about the impact my food intake has because it is incredibly small. What's important is quality and price. If I stopped eating meat tomorrow and became a preaching vegan, how much difference would that actually make? Almost nothing. If 50 million OTHER people quit meat, maybe THAT would make a difference. So it's a big change for me with no positive benefits, or no change for me with potentially massive positive benefits.

I'll do me, you can refuse to eat meat if you like.

I don't eat meat particularly. Although if I want to then I will. Someone else's opinion on that would not matter a jot.
But threads like these make me want to stuff half a cow in my mouth. Honestly give it a rest. Preaching will not win people over.

That’s the whole point. If we all make small changes it adds up.

eg have roast chicken for Sunday roast but don’t buy those plastic packs of low welfare chicken bits and have falafel instead?

if we each buy one less chicken a month that’s millions

We had an acre field on limestone, scattering of soil. Very sterile Bought a few geese they hatched many goslings, within two years this field had cowslips, primroses, rare orchids, grasshoppers, butterflies, moths, lizards, lots of other wild seeds propagated. It was astonishing. The only difference being goose pooh as far as we could see . It actually excited the expert who came across it that it was listed as an SSSI . We then had university interest, students visiting

It actually is
Its not selfish to want to enjoy what your eating. Thats normal lol

I have a very small appetite, i wont waste it on stuff thats just ok or i straight up dont like to have a vegen friendly option.
I dont want close to bacon, i want real bacon
I want creamy cream, not fake cream

Im guessing you have never lived rural and plucked your own pheasant or partridge?

I see farmed animals as a source of food yes.

I generally buy the ones in metal barns but of course if a neighbour offered me a chicken I would take it, why wouldnt I?

I agree. They are a source of food. That's the whole point of farmed animals. It's part of the food chain.

How wonderful.

Shame intensive farms have zero relation to this.

I'm really struggling to get round this way of thinking... Presumably you don't recycle or vote?

Animals were put on the plant for each other to eat. Humans are animals so...