To think most Brexiteers must now regret their vote?

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If you voted Brexit, do you feel like you have been able to "Take Back Control?" If so, where? Can anyone state one positive change since Brexit - I would genuinely like to hear at least something. Anything?

YANBU - I voted Brexit but now regret it
YABU - I voted Brexit and can see a benefit

Nasty comment about British builders "not showing up". Unable to admit you liked EU builders because they were cheap. Any objection from British tradesmen who were not able to compete was met with "well you should just work harder for less and then we'd employ you".
Oversimplification of issues - yet it's apparently only the "Brexiteers" who are too thick to understand all the repercussions (presumable the "other side" understood it all")
Stupid and divisive again OP. It really doesn't matter who voted for what when, (and how far back do you want to go? Blair? Cameron? Thatcher? Churchill FFS?).
It matters how we act now to get the best society for everyone.

What a load of bollocks about cheap EU builders. There's a massive shortage of trades people in the UK, has been for years. You can't get a builder round here for love nor money, you've practically got to beg them for a quote and then it's a fortune.

What is it with the Brits being incapable of admitting "We got it wrong"?

Every single piece of evidence is pointing to Brexit being a COLOSSAL mistake.

There are many ways to create a fairer society.

This is NOT it.

In fact, what you will see now is inequality and poverty ballooning over the next few years.

At a certain point, Brexit will have to be partially reversed by joining the EU Customs Union.

There are no options left for the UK now. Thats how dire the current economic situation is.

My experience with British builders have mainly included horrific incompetence, broken promises, and general laziness and greed, whereas the exact opposite has been true for EU builders from Poland, Romania. Friendship circle have similar experiences. So while I can't generalise, I can only speculate that brit builders voted brexit as the standards have been increased.

This was my brothers experience as well.

British builders have always been notoriously unreliable.

They fail to show up when they said they would, over-charge for basic materials, do not fix shoddy work etc..

Zero sense of professionalism. Its like they want to be paid just for showing up.

Nasty comment about British builders "not showing up". Unable to admit you liked EU builders because they were cheap*

I dont know what the original comment was so i may dont know if it was sad rudely but ive never used an EU builder, only ever British

We moved recently and need work and loads of them haven't turned up or turned up and ghosted us or don't come back if you need them back to amend something

British builders are the pits. Sat in today waiting for someone. He was supposed to show up at 9!!
no communication! not answering his phone!
Ths is the experience of lots of people who I know.

Yes, yes. and yes!

We've had some brilliant ones mind

If you compare the euro to the pound over the last year, 1 euro cost 85 pence. It's recently gone to 90 pence, which reflects a big drop in the value of the pound.

Well irrespective of whether you are a remainer or a leaver, it seem to me to be fairly clear that no, leavers on here do not generally regret their vote.

There certainly aren't many people on here saying "Yes - I really regret voting leave".

My UK-based (and heavily Remainer) extended family were just like this. Windows, house renovations erc: they would go for the cheapest quote, and in each case it was builders from eastern Europe.

Fwiw in the last project I know of they did a lousy job and went way over budget, and in fact didn't finish.

I'm not convinced that they were charging a fair price, ie, if you're a young single man who always intends to build up a best egg and return to a cheaper country you can undercut the local opposition.

As for the shortage, I reckon successive UK governments simply haven't bothered with decent training schemes for builders because they can just rely on the EU.

Nothing good was ever going to come out of it. We have Cameron to thank for this.

A bit embarrassing to admit it though. That's why they prefer to say nothing, or pretend they're happy with the dire situation the country is in.

Nope
My biggest worry was economic instability and politics and relations in some of European countries and how some European states were heading more far right. And it was increasing.

It was such a complex and difficult decision which is shown by how close the vote was and how majority (bigger than our political parties get) pipped into leave .

I don't think there was a perfect answer Brexit or remain.

And U.K. would have challenges either way.

I'm pretty convinced we are seeing what covid pandemic delayed, now start to play out.

It was a guess / a prediction that Europe was becoming destabilised anyway and we lost a lot to leave European Union, but my prediction is after a few painful years we would be more stable than a fractious EU will be.

So no I don't regret it.

But I do worry for many reasons bc I know it was a guess and one I don't regret

I do regret my and other EU countries children's generations of free movement being stopped though.

Immigration was not a deciding factor for me despite Remainer rhetoric

It was European politics and economic stability based on what I was seeing over 20-30 years and I felt we needed to step out and get a buffer between increasing centralisation to EU.

So, another delusional leaver.

Why do we even let you people vote?

Letting people vote on things they have zero knowledge on is sheer folly.

Thats also precisely why civilised countries banned referendums.

Saying that people you disagree with "shouldn't be allowed to vote" is not a good look.

There should be more, and more frequent referendums on all kinds of things. Let the people have their say. Politicians need to realise that they work for us, not the other way round.

This is nonsense.

Voting on things you have zero clue about is folly.

Why do we even let you people vote?

Right. Way to go to open a civilised debate.

Well it has certainly become clear that having a Chancellor and Prime Minister who have no clue about economics is a special kind of folly.

facism runs rife throughout Europe, Russia threatens from the north, economic depression hits Europe, Germany is concerned about how their people will react to shortages. War in Europe, conscription in some countries, talks of food shortages

all this is eerily familiar.

not at all sorry we’re standing alone.

Agree. That is a low standard even for a Brexit thread.

You can’t take away voting power just from the wrong - in their view - type of voter.

Are you someone who thinks those who voted leave have no clue?

The point stands.

These people have shown that they had absolutely no clue as to what they were voting for.

Thats not Democracy. Democracy only works when people have a basic education about what they are voting for.

What we have now is MOB RULE.

A bunch of folks easily manipulated by a very thin slice of the population.

Again, why do we allow this?

Its downright insane. And what is happening now is what happens when the extremism that generates reaches the end of the road.