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For wanting to do a Ouija board for a laugh?

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EbbyEbs · 24/09/2022 08:25

Next year DH and I are staying in a castle thought to be the most haunted in Britain. DH says he doesn’t believe in stuff like that, I’m on the fence really but more towards not believing. I think the most likely scenario if ghosts ARE real is that they’re historical residue and not intelligent entities. But even that is a stretch.

So, I’d like to do a ouija board when we’re there for a laugh. The castle is in the middle of nowhere so there isn’t much else to do on an evening other than drink (which I don’t do) and watch Netflix!

DH is point blank refusing saying he isn’t messing about with stuff like that. But he’s a non believer??! So what’s the harm?

If he doesn’t believe in it, am I being unreasonable to ask him to do it?

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Psychogeography · 24/09/2022 19:24

thedancingbear · 24/09/2022 17:44

You wouldn't be using fucking laughing emojis if you had just encountered the fury of Beelzebob.

I feel that Beelzebob should look like SpongeBob SquarePants, but with little horns and cloven hooves, cackling demonically around Bikini Bottom.

OhDeniseReally · 24/09/2022 19:30

Poor @Banana2079@Banana2079 she is getting a right bloody pasting. Why are people being so mean? If she had managed to get photographic evidence she would then be accused of faking that. Some people are never happy and make it their business to get the final word in. If you don't believe it, fine, but don't be so mean to someone who clearly had a very frightening experience, however it might have happened. Just have some respect for people's feelings.

GuyMontag · 24/09/2022 19:31

"bottom"

ReneBumsWombats · 24/09/2022 19:35

OhDeniseReally · 24/09/2022 19:30

Poor @Banana2079@Banana2079 she is getting a right bloody pasting. Why are people being so mean? If she had managed to get photographic evidence she would then be accused of faking that. Some people are never happy and make it their business to get the final word in. If you don't believe it, fine, but don't be so mean to someone who clearly had a very frightening experience, however it might have happened. Just have some respect for people's feelings.

She told me she didn't give a flying rat's arse what we thought, so don't worry, she's fine.

But maybe you could check with her how old her kid is. The child becoming a year younger in the course of the story was a little concerning. Although I'd happily let the Devil fling my airer around a bit if it meant getting back my lost youth.

thedancingbear · 24/09/2022 19:38

OhDeniseReally · 24/09/2022 19:30

Poor @Banana2079@Banana2079 she is getting a right bloody pasting. Why are people being so mean? If she had managed to get photographic evidence she would then be accused of faking that. Some people are never happy and make it their business to get the final word in. If you don't believe it, fine, but don't be so mean to someone who clearly had a very frightening experience, however it might have happened. Just have some respect for people's feelings.

The spirits did not throw Banana2079's airer across the room, though, did they?

MrsMarlowe · 24/09/2022 19:42

I don’t believe but I wouldn’t do one either. I don’t think it’s about believing, it’s about imagination.
IF you did it, even IF you don’t believe, and IF you imagination played tricks on you at the time and/or something terrible happened shortly afterwards… would you be able to dismiss it and think no more of it? Or would it be on your mind?

I don’t believe in Tarot and have been so tempted to try it just as a form of self reflection. But, I know that if a reading ‘told’ me something unexpected or worrying it would hold so much more power over me than any other random intrusive thought. So it isn’t worth the risk to my peace of mind.

GuyMontag · 24/09/2022 19:45

Although I'd happily let the Devil fling my airer around a bit if it meant getting back my lost youth.

Apparently if you go around the sun fast enough for thousands of years time moves backwards or something, eventually.

I tried to test this out one time by running around ds's sports bag that he'd left in the kitchen but he got all cross and said I was making a mockery of the quantum bollocks he'd spent the previous half hour spouting at me while I cooked tea. But maybe he was wrong, and ol'Banana here has actually unlocked the secret of rewinding time via moving everyday objects.

Pinktoothbrushesarefab · 24/09/2022 19:48

@Banana2079
I believe you - hope you're OK now?

limitededitionbarbie · 24/09/2022 19:48

If like me you would worry about it and it would affect your mental health then you should not pressure him to do it.

I dont think I believe in it but I wouldn't chance it because I'd worry about it.

Pinktoothbrushesarefab · 24/09/2022 19:52

@Bestcatmum Good luck with whatever demon comes through. Anything can manifest through that good or bad. Some just come through to mess with your life because they are angry. Mess up your marriage cause chaos and confusion. Ouija was created as a game but it isn't.

I totally agree.

GuyMontag · 24/09/2022 19:59

I mean, you know that is horseshit, right?

Pinktoothbrushesarefab · 24/09/2022 20:11

@XDownwiththissortofthingX
Why are priests the natural counter to 'spirits'? What sort of magical powers do they possess over and above mere mortals? Is it something they are trained in at priest school? Do they have a special containment unit in seminaries where aspiring priests can hone their powers against captive spirits? What if the spirit is an atheist, is the priest rendered powerless? What if it's a muslim spirit? do you call an Imam? do you need to mix and match your priest to meet the requirements of the spirit at hand?

I'll try and answer your questions.

  1. We are not talking about spirits we are talking about demons.
  2. Priests do not fight evil alone, but with the backup of the Holy Catholic Church.
  3. They have to be specially trained as exorcists in Rome.
  4. Demons do not follow any religion or even none.

As I think your questions are perhaps a bit tongue-in-cheek I'll leave you with this quote from Baudeliere; "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist"

ReneBumsWombats · 24/09/2022 20:14

KEYSER SOZE

GuyMontag · 24/09/2022 20:23

🤣🤣🤣

GuyMontag · 24/09/2022 20:24

I grew up mired in the superstition and bullshit that the old Catholic church perpetuates and I am genuinely loving the direction this thread has taken.

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 24/09/2022 20:25

Oh HELL to the no! 😮😩😲

Psychopomps · 24/09/2022 20:27

Pinktoothbrushesarefab · 24/09/2022 20:11

@XDownwiththissortofthingX
Why are priests the natural counter to 'spirits'? What sort of magical powers do they possess over and above mere mortals? Is it something they are trained in at priest school? Do they have a special containment unit in seminaries where aspiring priests can hone their powers against captive spirits? What if the spirit is an atheist, is the priest rendered powerless? What if it's a muslim spirit? do you call an Imam? do you need to mix and match your priest to meet the requirements of the spirit at hand?

I'll try and answer your questions.

  1. We are not talking about spirits we are talking about demons.
  2. Priests do not fight evil alone, but with the backup of the Holy Catholic Church.
  3. They have to be specially trained as exorcists in Rome.
  4. Demons do not follow any religion or even none.

As I think your questions are perhaps a bit tongue-in-cheek I'll leave you with this quote from Baudeliere; "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist"

They certainly aren’t ‘specially trained as exorcists in Rome’. Each diocese was supposed to have someone who was available, though I strongly doubt that’s the case any more with the aged and declining priest population, and in any case, they would only even consider conducting an exorcism if they’d absolutely ruled out MH issues, which was always the default assumption, via a professional opinion. My uncle was one of these diocesan ‘exorcists’ and said he’d never conducted one in 30 years. Mostly he said a blessing with the intention of calming down someone frightened or mentally unwell.

IncompleteSenten · 24/09/2022 20:32

Kind of like that 'monster be gone spray' or whatever it's called that some parents use under the kids' beds when they think the boogeyman is under there.

The mind is a powerful thing. It makes you see shit that's not there and it makes you believe rituals remove shit that's not there.

I suppose since the end result is no longer seeing shit that's not there and feeling better about it, it does its job

JustJustWhy · 24/09/2022 20:33

roaringmouse · 24/09/2022 19:19

I've 'played' the Ouija board quite a few times and had some interesting, scary and funny experiences.

One time, the police turned up and peered at my friends and I through the back window as we were playing. When we opened the back door, they said they'd had a call from the landline registered to our address (this was a long time before mobile phones were a thing) but our phone wasn't able to make outgoing calls, only incoming.

Another time, things being spelt out on the board were so funny, we were all in stitches, and it was such a different humour to any of the people that were playing. It was like we had a comedian with us.

I can't explain either of these things, and there were others. I'm not sure what I believe. I decided not to play again, at some point in my twenties, because I did find it unsettling. I do sometimes want to though.

  1. Crossed lines. Used to happen all the time.
  2. It was someone in the group.

HTH.

Pinktoothbrushesarefab · 24/09/2022 20:38

@Psychopomps You are mistaken, see here:

www.theregister.com/2018/02/23/vatican_sets_up_dedicated_exorcism_training_course/

roaringmouse · 24/09/2022 20:43

@JustJustWhy

Maybe, but I lived in that house for three years, so it was very odd that there were 'crossed lines' on that particular night.

There was no one in the group who was that witty. There were only three of us.

Pinktoothbrushesarefab · 24/09/2022 20:43

@Psychopomps Also here ;- www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43697573

ReneBumsWombats · 24/09/2022 20:50

roaringmouse · 24/09/2022 20:43

@JustJustWhy

Maybe, but I lived in that house for three years, so it was very odd that there were 'crossed lines' on that particular night.

There was no one in the group who was that witty. There were only three of us.

If there were crossed wires any other night, you'd just dismiss it as crossed wires.

The three of you were in a particular head space, ready to find anything funny, and all working together.

Do you truly think the spirits of a frustrated electrician and a stand-up comedian are more plausible explanations?

StoneofDestiny · 24/09/2022 20:55

Yes it's a board game and there are no 'spirits or ghosts' to summon up - but it can mess with your head if you think you or someone else can 'summon up' something unnatural. You could end up haunting yourself!

ReneBumsWombats · 24/09/2022 21:03

Derren Brown tells the story of a policeman who was at a work event and a known psychic shook his hand, went into a trance and told him Henrietta was cold. Then she blinked, her eyes cleared and she innocently asked, "Who's Henrietta?"

Henrietta was his car and after such a performance, he was astounded that she knew of it.

But I wonder what he'd have thought if she'd shaken his hand, smiled and said, "So, I hear you call your car Henrietta!"