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School is awful!

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anerki101 · 20/09/2022 09:56

DS has just started his second week in reception. It'd bloody awful, miserable and I hate every moment of it.

Firstly, getting up early is just dreadful. I'm not a morning person. I can set various different alarms, with different tones on different devices and I don't hear a single one. I have to rely on poor DH to wake me up. Sometimes I don't hear him and he has to flick me with water.

Before I had DS I had this problem with working FT too. The drudge of waking up at an ungodly hour five days a week. Spending all day in an environment you'd rather not be in with people you'd rather not be with. I'm terrible with routine and having commitments.

Then there's navigating the school run which is the worst kind of torture and you have to do it twice a day. Getting there early enough to find somewhere within walking distance to park or end up trudging miles in the pissing rain. All the parents seem to know each other already and stand around chatting in cliques.

DS is incredibly shy and struggle socially. He seems to get overlooked, forgotten and ignored. I worry dreadfully about him. He doesn't know how to interact with the other children. I fear he's going to get lost in the system both socially and educationally. He didn't eat his Yoghurt one day at school because he couldn't open it. My fault for sending something he couldn't open but I felt terrible he wasn't confident enough to ask one of the lunch time supervisors for help.

I can't help but feel it's wrong as a society that we inflict this on our four year old children. Dragging them out of bed when it's still dark, ignoring their natural body clock, shoving a slice of toast down their throats and sending them off into an unfamiliar environment five days a week. DS has only just turned four and can't yet wipe his own bum. I dread him doing a poo at school and prey that he at least does it towards the end of the day so he doesn't have to spend long covered in his own shit. He still has to be reminded to drink and every day so far he's come home with his water bottle still full to the rim.

It feels so wrong to send a just turned four year old into an environment where he has no help with wiping his bum and no encouragement to drink.

Before anyone starts, I don't for one minute blame the school or DS' teachers. They are brilliant. My issue is with the system itself. The society that requires us to send our children into this environment.

Yes, I know I don't have to. I could homeschool. But it's not that easy is it. Society isn't set up for parents to home school. Mostly, both parents need to work outside the home full time just to keep a roof over their heads.

Nursery was a far better environment. Ds went 15 hours a week. Enough for him to spend time with people outside rhe immediate family and enough for me to have a bit of time to get things done without him in tow. We could choose the hours best suited to us and what worked best for DS. Drinking wasn't an issue. He had help when using the toilet.

I know there was the option to defer school for a year and keep him in nursery for another year but we simply couldn't afford to do this. Also, DS was ready for school in an educational sense just not in an emotional and social sense.

The house feels empty without him too. I feel his absence in the silence.

Just musing really. It's nice to get my thoughts out.

Every day I pick him up from school he isn't himself. He's tired and emotional and has a tantrum over something minor before we've even walked through the front door. It's like he's holding himself in all day and letting it out when he's back with me.

He didn't even manage the first week at school, he caught covid on day four!

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Peanutbuttercupisyum · 20/09/2022 11:11

I felt exactly like you! Missed the relaxed days, running around the woods, hated the horrible routine of drudgery. Hated the rush in the morning. Hated the after school shift even more, for its rush to get her fed,bathed and in bed ready for the next morning. I felt like my DD wasn’t flourishing in any way. She was shy, awkward, moody. Not herself at all. Tbh…I moved her to a school where drop off was anytime between 8 and 8.50 (just turn up)and only 8 per class so bum wiping and yoghurt opening was no problem. It really will get better over time. You could delay school and just start him in y1 next September. You’ll need to do some phonics, reading and counting with him, but everything else should be fine. Do try and arrange some play dates, and try and make some friends with the other parents. Will make it all easier.

SealHouse · 20/09/2022 11:15

At just gone 4, for me, and depending of course on the individual child, perhaps he's just still too young. I don't know what the rules are in the UK or how much discretion you have about what age to start a child in school, but where I am (Ireland) I would be definitely be keeping him home another year if I didn't feel he was ready. Once he's on the school treadmill, that's it. A friend of mine is in Germany and her kids all started at 6. I recall reading that some studies show that starting a bit later can be beneficial for some kids (boys moreso even than girls).
Waiting another year would also give you some space to assess for potential neurodiversity for both of you if you think it might be a factor.

lemonyanus · 20/09/2022 11:16

Outofdepthmum · 20/09/2022 11:02

You’re studiously ignoring the ADHD posts…

I'd ignore them if I were OP, must be annoying to have people trying to diagnose you with something because you don't like early mornings Confused

sóh₂wl̥ · 20/09/2022 11:16

I didnt realise you started school at 4 in England!

There'a cut of date end of August - one side you go days after turning 4 and day after cut off date your're in next school year.

Since I had mine it has become easier to defer a year - so that's an option.

Op DH doesn't trust her to home educate saying she's too flakey and unreliable - if the DS can't cope then he may change his mind but a large amount of the post is OP not coping - as she needs to do these tasks perhaps emphasis on making it more bearable. PFB did have a few 6pm bedtimes as overtiredness was such an issue.

Whiskeypowers · 20/09/2022 11:18

With all three of mine they came out dehydrated and starving in reception the youngest still does as he’s currently there. I think that okays a huge part in their disposition and experiences and not at all happy that teachers don’t monitor this more

i think it is often a shock to the system for all concerned

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 20/09/2022 11:21

My child is August born- tbh school in reception is learning through play, it's less hours that a private nursery. Everyone saying they arent ready are being a bit dramatic.

ItsRainingPens · 20/09/2022 11:21

Seriously OP, the best/only way to make this better is to get yourself the help you need

RoomOfRequirement · 20/09/2022 11:21

anerki101 · 20/09/2022 11:04

I keep reading all the posts telling me to get the ball rolling for assesments and keep thinking, 'must get DH to do that!' I can't do it. I can't speak to the doctor.

...why can't you speak to the doctor?

PoorPaddington · 20/09/2022 11:23

@amijustparanoidorjuststoned On none pre school days, Dd and I get up around 8 🤷🏻‍♀️Is there something wrong with that 😬

ThanksItHasPockets · 20/09/2022 11:23

I don't like armchair diagnoses but I have to agree with pp that a lot of your posts have characteristics of neurodiversity. Did you struggle with your own experience of school? Have you had 9-5 type day jobs?

puddingandsun · 20/09/2022 11:23

I can completely understand where you're coming from.

Schools benefit societies economically - free childcare for parents to enable them to work. But they are definitely not the best thing for children. They are overcrowded, mostly impersonal and all children are expected to fit the mould. Works well for some - I was perfectly happy at school - but it is such an unnatural way of raising children.

MindYourBeeswax · 20/09/2022 11:24

If your DH thinks you're too flakey to home educate, could he take a sabbatical and do it himself for a while, at least to get the ball rolling? Is there anyway, he could start later at work, maybe working through his lunchtime, to make up time?

I notice in your opening post, you say he used to throw water on you in order to get you up. That sounds abusive to me. Could your son be picking up on this? It might be time to think about a life without him. You might do a lot better without his assessment of your character, his throwing water and his making you so dependent on him.
I hope you are studying for a well paid career and not something like origami.

SwordToFlamethrower · 20/09/2022 11:26

That is why I'm home schooling my baby after having 2 kids go through that hell. I know exactly what is in store for my baby girl and we just aren't putting her through more of the same.

Huge sacrifice, but then, having children is. Couldn't live with myself if I sent her into the system after everything I've learned.

Bullying, exams, rigid rules, the drudgery, learning crap she will never need in life. Why?

OldieButBaddie · 20/09/2022 11:26

Sorry to hear you are struggling. Have you seen the doctor for a check up lately? If you are going to bed at 1030 and waking up at 7 that's 8.5hrs sleep which should be enough, could you be anaemic? Or have some other health issue which means you need more sleep. Could you have a nap in the day?

anerki101 · 20/09/2022 11:27

ThanksItHasPockets · 20/09/2022 11:23

I don't like armchair diagnoses but I have to agree with pp that a lot of your posts have characteristics of neurodiversity. Did you struggle with your own experience of school? Have you had 9-5 type day jobs?

Yes I struggled massively with school and hated it. I mostly didn't go. I have had 9-5 jobs and struggled with those too. Probation periods extended, etc. Simply because I couldnt fit in with everyone else.

OP posts:
anerki101 · 20/09/2022 11:28

OldieButBaddie · 20/09/2022 11:26

Sorry to hear you are struggling. Have you seen the doctor for a check up lately? If you are going to bed at 1030 and waking up at 7 that's 8.5hrs sleep which should be enough, could you be anaemic? Or have some other health issue which means you need more sleep. Could you have a nap in the day?

Have always needed about 10 - 12 hours a night. :) it's not a new thing.

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arethereanyleftatall · 20/09/2022 11:29

SwordToFlamethrower · 20/09/2022 11:26

That is why I'm home schooling my baby after having 2 kids go through that hell. I know exactly what is in store for my baby girl and we just aren't putting her through more of the same.

Huge sacrifice, but then, having children is. Couldn't live with myself if I sent her into the system after everything I've learned.

Bullying, exams, rigid rules, the drudgery, learning crap she will never need in life. Why?

Because most/many children love it and it's hugely beneficial for them?

EatAllDay · 20/09/2022 11:30

Is it compulsory to go to school so young? In ireland most kids are 5 or 5.5 when they start school. Could you take him out and start next year?
chat to his teacher with all of your concerns to calm yourself a little. Kids are resilient and in reality he’ll most likely settle within a few weeks. There’s no way he’s the only child unsettled.

Do almost everything the night before. Put lunch in fridge, have both of your clothes ready. Go to bed at 9:30.
Sounds like you might need a tonic or something to boost your health?
it’s not easy! It’ll get more manageable though. In general young kids routines are a massive pain in the arse!!

good luck 😉

anerki101 · 20/09/2022 11:30

MindYourBeeswax · 20/09/2022 11:24

If your DH thinks you're too flakey to home educate, could he take a sabbatical and do it himself for a while, at least to get the ball rolling? Is there anyway, he could start later at work, maybe working through his lunchtime, to make up time?

I notice in your opening post, you say he used to throw water on you in order to get you up. That sounds abusive to me. Could your son be picking up on this? It might be time to think about a life without him. You might do a lot better without his assessment of your character, his throwing water and his making you so dependent on him.
I hope you are studying for a well paid career and not something like origami.

He doesn't throw water on me. I asked him to flick me with water if he couldn't wake me up verbally. He wets his fingers under the tap and just flicks them at me in desperation but only because I'd given him prior permission to do so. He can't do anything more to help because of his job and we need the money from his job.

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whatsup00 · 20/09/2022 11:31

I would struggle with this bc I work (from home) until 4:30am.
I also am not a morning person at all, although I am OK with waking up any time after 8am. I would struggle with 6:45 massively. (I have small naps in the afternoon.)

Over time I think you will get used to it and it will just become normal.

What about trying those trackers that wake you up while you're in light sleep? The issue might be that your alarm is going at the time when you're in deep sleep. It seems like you're getting a lot of hours of sleep so I don't think that's the issue.

At least it's light now at that time and relatively warm.

Could you go on scooters or anything to make the journey more exciting?

roarfeckingroarr · 20/09/2022 11:31

JenJones5 · 20/09/2022 10:24

What job are you in that 06:00 is an early alarm?

That’s really not particularly early for an adult to be up and about.

Were you not particularly happy at school yourself, and is that maybe feeding in to the issues that you are having and that it sounds like your child is picking up on?

A 6am start is early! Unless you're a farmer or postie, it is early! I don't get up until 7:30 now and I accept that's not too early.

Goldbar · 20/09/2022 11:32

I think you need to separate your issues around school routine and admin from your DC's experiences at school.

I sympathise as we've gone from having fairly relaxed mornings to having to be out of the house by 7.45 in the morning since DC started school (either long walk or busy bus ride, so we need to leave plenty of time due to traffic congestion etc.). DC would previously have slept until 7.45/8, but now I wake them at 7.15 on the dot. What helps for us is having a very compact 25 minute routine and then we're out of the house and that's that. I wake DC, DC has 5 minutes to come to, then downstairs for breakfast (10 minutes) while I pack the lunchbox, then DC gets dressed with encouragement (10 minutes), then we check everything needed is in DC's schoolbag, fill water bottle etc., brush teeth and out of the house (5 minutes). Since there is no time to mess around or do other stuff in the morning (as DC now understands after having to go without breakfast for a few days due to playing instead of eating), it's very non-stressful as it's just a process we have to get through and I make it a race with DC to see how fast we can get out. Then we have some peaceful time while walking or on the bus. The routine is just becoming internalised for us now which is making it easier. I'm also mindful that this is the easy bit for us, as shortly we'll be doing the routine with a new baby in tow and then after that there will be nursery drop-off as well.

I think you're right that children start school (or at least formal learning) too young in this country. Unfortunately while children are individuals, schools are a bit one-size-fits-all in their approach, and some children take longer than others to adapt.

Whisperedew · 20/09/2022 11:33

Op I feel exactly the same as you
cokld have written it myself

legophoenix · 20/09/2022 11:33

Haven't read the whole thread so apologies if this has been covered, but you're saying that the noise and crowds at school is overwhelming and your son finds socialising difficult - has he been assessed for ASD?

If you also find it difficult then you may also be neurodivergent- does tend to run in families.

Mainstream school is absolute hell for some kids - it's a sensory disaster. Speak to school about all issues and they might have some solutions. Unfortunately if you want him to remain in mainstream education you're just going to have to suck up the early mornings.

whatsup00 · 20/09/2022 11:34

BTW I used to sleep 10 hours a night. It was too much (for me) and I felt sluggish a lot. I gradually shortened it just going to bed one hour later (not recommending this for anyone, just saying it's what I did). Ideally I think I'd sleep from midnight to 8am.

Everyone is different and maybe you need 10 hours but 12 hours seems extreme and you're losing half of the day.

I hate getting up early so I do sympathise. I would rather stay up late tbh.

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