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School is awful!

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anerki101 · 20/09/2022 09:56

DS has just started his second week in reception. It'd bloody awful, miserable and I hate every moment of it.

Firstly, getting up early is just dreadful. I'm not a morning person. I can set various different alarms, with different tones on different devices and I don't hear a single one. I have to rely on poor DH to wake me up. Sometimes I don't hear him and he has to flick me with water.

Before I had DS I had this problem with working FT too. The drudge of waking up at an ungodly hour five days a week. Spending all day in an environment you'd rather not be in with people you'd rather not be with. I'm terrible with routine and having commitments.

Then there's navigating the school run which is the worst kind of torture and you have to do it twice a day. Getting there early enough to find somewhere within walking distance to park or end up trudging miles in the pissing rain. All the parents seem to know each other already and stand around chatting in cliques.

DS is incredibly shy and struggle socially. He seems to get overlooked, forgotten and ignored. I worry dreadfully about him. He doesn't know how to interact with the other children. I fear he's going to get lost in the system both socially and educationally. He didn't eat his Yoghurt one day at school because he couldn't open it. My fault for sending something he couldn't open but I felt terrible he wasn't confident enough to ask one of the lunch time supervisors for help.

I can't help but feel it's wrong as a society that we inflict this on our four year old children. Dragging them out of bed when it's still dark, ignoring their natural body clock, shoving a slice of toast down their throats and sending them off into an unfamiliar environment five days a week. DS has only just turned four and can't yet wipe his own bum. I dread him doing a poo at school and prey that he at least does it towards the end of the day so he doesn't have to spend long covered in his own shit. He still has to be reminded to drink and every day so far he's come home with his water bottle still full to the rim.

It feels so wrong to send a just turned four year old into an environment where he has no help with wiping his bum and no encouragement to drink.

Before anyone starts, I don't for one minute blame the school or DS' teachers. They are brilliant. My issue is with the system itself. The society that requires us to send our children into this environment.

Yes, I know I don't have to. I could homeschool. But it's not that easy is it. Society isn't set up for parents to home school. Mostly, both parents need to work outside the home full time just to keep a roof over their heads.

Nursery was a far better environment. Ds went 15 hours a week. Enough for him to spend time with people outside rhe immediate family and enough for me to have a bit of time to get things done without him in tow. We could choose the hours best suited to us and what worked best for DS. Drinking wasn't an issue. He had help when using the toilet.

I know there was the option to defer school for a year and keep him in nursery for another year but we simply couldn't afford to do this. Also, DS was ready for school in an educational sense just not in an emotional and social sense.

The house feels empty without him too. I feel his absence in the silence.

Just musing really. It's nice to get my thoughts out.

Every day I pick him up from school he isn't himself. He's tired and emotional and has a tantrum over something minor before we've even walked through the front door. It's like he's holding himself in all day and letting it out when he's back with me.

He didn't even manage the first week at school, he caught covid on day four!

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SpeckofDustUponMySoul · 20/09/2022 10:59

My twin girls have just started in reception.
I've got pretty bad combined ADHD and the new 'routine' is absolutely fucking with my head. I struggle massively with executive dysfunction and every day feels totally overwhelming from start to finish.
I hope it gets better for anyone having similar issues.

qwertyqw · 20/09/2022 11:00

You mentioned he just turned 4, was he an august baby? if so you have the option to keep him back a year. I did that with my son. There was no way i felt he was ready for full-time school. I put him instead in part-time nursery just to adjust to the idea of being without me, and we didn't attend religiously either. you know your child best! I do feel kids should be left to play a little longer and 4 is far too young to be left to the education system.

AMessageToYouRuby · 20/09/2022 11:00

On one hand I hear you. I HATE the mornings and have always battled through working to get up early. Had children and found no change because none of mine like early mornings either. I loathe routine and the drudgery of school and work was something I could really go off the deep end about.

However, it is what it is. I've conquered my mornings issue of being someone who found 9am too early by getting up at 5am (2 hours earlier than necessary) and going for a walk then having a slow getting ready. Grim initially but now I'm into it and even if I oversleep will wake by 6:30 latest.

Also, I had the realisation I'm being too self-indulgent. Frankly, life is hard, made harder by not building up some emotional resilience. Practice things at home, he will get thirsty and drink, he will have to learn to navigate the world and you can't shield him from that.

anerki101 · 20/09/2022 11:01

DH won't let me homeschool, unfortunately. I think he thinks I'm too flakey and unreliable to do it. He also thinks school will be good for DS socially and as I'm abysmal at maths, DH says DS definitely needs to be at school!

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lemonyanus · 20/09/2022 11:01

It is hard at the start. But some children really do thrive in school. My son cried at the start and he was so young and it all felt so wrong. Very quickly though I saw a huge improvement in his behaviour, his vocabulary and his understanding of the world. I have invested a lot of time and effort into helping him to learn at home but he needed more skilled guidance and more stimulation than I could ever offer.

The school run is a pain in the arse but it becomes second nature. Same with getting up. Lying about half the morning isn't much good for anyone. If they didn't have schools they'd eventually be up much earlier going down mines or up chimneys or helping out on farms or whatever kids did before school became mandatory so they wouldn't get a lie in anyway.

We've just got back from a short break together and I didn't want to send him to school today, I want to keep him here and cuddle him and spend all day every day just being together. But it wouldn't do either of us any good in the long run. Children deserve more than that.

MistressIggi · 20/09/2022 11:02

What does the child's dad think about this? A lot of planning for this wee boy's entire childhood based on one week is going on on this thread!
There is no diagnosed neurodiversity in the family. If OP does have ADHD she could get treatment that could radically alter her life. I think that would be a good first step rather than removing the child from his peers at the start of reception.

hoorayandupsherises · 20/09/2022 11:02

anerki101 · 20/09/2022 10:44

I think I might be. Have suspected for a long time. Worried my son might be too. He's so much like me. But never been assessed. Either of us. DH also thinks I am and that DS might be too, so definitely not in my head!

Ask your DH to look at getting diagnoses for you and DS, as the admin of making the appointments etc. are (ironically) made virtually impossible by being ND (I am ASD/ADHD, diagnosed and undergoing titration).

I could weep for previous undiagnosed, untreated self. It would have made the most incredible difference to have had help from starting school.

anerki101 · 20/09/2022 11:02

qwertyqw · 20/09/2022 11:00

You mentioned he just turned 4, was he an august baby? if so you have the option to keep him back a year. I did that with my son. There was no way i felt he was ready for full-time school. I put him instead in part-time nursery just to adjust to the idea of being without me, and we didn't attend religiously either. you know your child best! I do feel kids should be left to play a little longer and 4 is far too young to be left to the education system.

He's a July baby. Should have been 20th July but came two weeks early.

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Outofdepthmum · 20/09/2022 11:02

You’re studiously ignoring the ADHD posts…

unicormb · 20/09/2022 11:04

anerki101 · 20/09/2022 11:01

DH won't let me homeschool, unfortunately. I think he thinks I'm too flakey and unreliable to do it. He also thinks school will be good for DS socially and as I'm abysmal at maths, DH says DS definitely needs to be at school!

So why is it your responsibility to get your DC to school and back every day? Belayed it's sounds like your DH might be better suited to it.

anerki101 · 20/09/2022 11:04

hoorayandupsherises · 20/09/2022 11:02

Ask your DH to look at getting diagnoses for you and DS, as the admin of making the appointments etc. are (ironically) made virtually impossible by being ND (I am ASD/ADHD, diagnosed and undergoing titration).

I could weep for previous undiagnosed, untreated self. It would have made the most incredible difference to have had help from starting school.

I keep reading all the posts telling me to get the ball rolling for assesments and keep thinking, 'must get DH to do that!' I can't do it. I can't speak to the doctor.

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OnlyFoolsnMothers · 20/09/2022 11:04

Quite frankly go to bed earlier, your son may need to go to bed earlier if not waking up until 8.
Yes admin and deadlines is a lot, it's also parenting. No way of avoiding it.

anerki101 · 20/09/2022 11:04

Outofdepthmum · 20/09/2022 11:02

You’re studiously ignoring the ADHD posts…

I'm not ignoring... just struggling to keep up with speed of the thread!

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anerki101 · 20/09/2022 11:05

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 20/09/2022 11:04

Quite frankly go to bed earlier, your son may need to go to bed earlier if not waking up until 8.
Yes admin and deadlines is a lot, it's also parenting. No way of avoiding it.

He goes to bed at 7.

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sóhâ‚‚wlÌ¥ · 20/09/2022 11:05

I'd look into neurodiversity.

I'd also try and separate your issue from DS.

Getting up - I find it hard but do it - you say you've tried light but have your tired vibrating or one you have to get up to stop - like puzzle ones - also try and earlier bed time.

An August child being tried after school - well that was my experience. That was despite her doing pre school. School was much bigger classes and she actually got on better than in small pre-school - more people to choose from for friends.

I also missed her like mad - despite having two children still at home with me - also she often had to go to bed very early as she was so tried - but she did settle and was happy it didn't feel like we "got her back" till around summer term of reception.

if you have concerns about toileting etc - talk to the reception teacher and practise at home.

If it really isn't working for him then think about home schooling. I would give it time to settle and talk to the staff about him and his needs. Also wouldn't encourage a socially awkward shy child not to interact - that was done to me - they need more help and more opportunities to develop these skills - though that can be done with home schooling groups so school isn't only option for that.

Iamblossom · 20/09/2022 11:05

Mariposista · 20/09/2022 10:29

Sorry but parenting is not about lying in bed until you feel like getting up. Get yourself up, out the door on time and off to school. That is what thousands of working people do every day, and most of them have children to factor in too. Sort out your kid's toilet training. Are you going to be wiping his bum for him forever? Shyness is normal, and about the only part of this I can sympathise with, but his confidence will grow in time. House feels lonely? How about getting a job?

Hmm, I know this is going to sound harsh but I completely agree with this. Sounds like you need to get a grip and grow up a bit? Take responsibility for getting yourself up in the morning and teaching your child to do the same, plus wiping his bottom etc!

Kids take their cue from you so if he observes you on a major go slow and being grumpy and annoyed about having to get up and face the world he is going to do the same right? How about a bit of get up and go, enthusiasm, cheerfulness about spending the day with kids his own age learning interesting things?

I thought from the thread title you were going to talk about secondary school which can be truly awful for some kids but reception is fun!

anerki101 · 20/09/2022 11:06

unicormb · 20/09/2022 11:04

So why is it your responsibility to get your DC to school and back every day? Belayed it's sounds like your DH might be better suited to it.

Because DH is at work. I'd be much happier if he did but he can't:(

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unicormb · 20/09/2022 11:07

It doesn't sound like your DH has been particularly proactive either though, OP.

Both my husband and I are neurodiverse. It's got to be one of us that does this stuff though doesn't it? You just have to crack on, to a certain extent. Being responsible for a small human being is quite a big thing.

Cosycover · 20/09/2022 11:07

I didnt realise you started school at 4 in England!

When is your son 5?

My daughter is 4 and wouldn't cope with school just now either.

Do they do full days at that age?

Holidaying7 · 20/09/2022 11:08

I agree that they’re too young at 4!

Crunchingleaf · 20/09/2022 11:08

VioletInsolence · 20/09/2022 10:58

The lives we lead aren’t natural and schools are there to produce workers. Cogs in the capitalist machine to create wealth for those at the top. I see everyone rolling their eyes but this is a fact, unfortunately.

As a neurodiverse person, it tends to be more difficult to fit in with the system and it’s perhaps more obvious that it’s wrong. To most, it’s normal, unquestioned and they ‘get on with it’ and insist that everyone does the same. It’s difficult to tread a different path though and go against the majority.

I think you’ll be fine hime educating…ignore the person who says you won’t be able to because you get up late. Your son also gets up late and at this age, you don’t have to do very much…they’re only doing a bit of reading and counting and the rest is play. You can give him far better experiences than a school can and there are usually groups so that home educated kids can socialise.

Take good care of yourself and get as much sleep as you can and stick with your plan to stick at one child. Don’t beat yourself up for not keeping pace with everyone else.

I think I would definitely had agreed with you if you were talking about the school system in years gone by.
School has changed drastically and many (not all) neurodiverse kids do well in it. Schools are so much more accommodating and understanding of children being individuals. Mainstream doesn’t suit every child for a wide variety of reasons. It’s very early days here. Not many families can realistically afford to homeschool no matter how much they want to.

ittakes2 · 20/09/2022 11:08

Please google inattentive adhd I have this and struggling with organising yourself to get to places on time is a symptom. This plus social awkwardness as we miss social clues.

AMessageToYouRuby · 20/09/2022 11:08

Oh and I have been diagnosed with ADHD, which makes things much harder but tbh doesn't actually change anything in the sense of what needs to be done and when. I spent years raging against the system, lamenting that the world was run by 'fucking morning people' and why can't I get up at 3pm, school is so inconvenient, schedules are for fools, I don't accept the concept of time etc, etc.

I was doing myself and my children a disservice. I've just found ways to work within the system. I did for around a year do sleep between 10am and 2:30pm, work through the night then do the school run but it wasn't sustainable for holidays and ruined weekends.

Chaotica · 20/09/2022 11:08

@anerki101 I sympathise. It does get better. BUT have you thought about keeping DS part time until the term he turns 5? We did with DD (so she did half days until Easter) when it turned out that reception was too much. The school weren't that impressed, but she didn't fall behind and it was right for her. It turned out that she has ASD and the phased start was really what she needed. (She didn't drink or ask for help etc etc.)

She found it much easier in Y1 when there was less free play and more sitting and working. Reception was horrible for her, but because she wasn't violent or badly behaved (she just hid or stared at screens for hours without interacting), they didn't flag any issues... She was never a morning baby/child either and had awful sleep issues.

Don't stress about little things like the yogurt though - you learn these things on the job.

HeidiWhole · 20/09/2022 11:08

Gently suggesting there may be some neurodiversity with you and possibly your son.

I would home-educate for the infant years if you can and then re-assess.