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Imagine getting the hardest job of your life aged 73 and having to do it till you die.

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MrsMarlowe · 19/09/2022 21:11

Just watching the ‘highlights’ of the day (if you can call it that).
I’m not a monarchist. But I really feel for Charles. He looked much older than I’ve seen him look before, so sad (naturally) and utterly exhausted.

Most people are retired aged 73. Imagine being that age and only just getting started on your hardest job. And not being able to decline the role (without massive fallout) and having to do it till you die.

And think about what motivates the rest of us in our jobs: the prospect of increased reward, status, respect, and finally more downtime as we reach retirement to enjoy the fruits of our labour.
Obviously he has all the wealth, status etc already … but then where can any motivation come from? He just doesn’t have a choice - it’s duty. Talk about a gilded cage.

I felt quite emotional watching Charles, William and George in the wake of the coffin. Knowing that it will come to them one day. Knowing their destiny is already set, whether they like it or not. What a life, to be royal.

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LobeliaBaggins · 20/09/2022 07:47

Alternatively, think of it as a man who hasn't worked much and had his entire life to play polo, garden and go on holidays now having to finally do some work at 73.

hopsalong · 20/09/2022 07:55

I do feel sorry for him but disagree that he looks broken down or older. In some existential sense I think he looks happier, as if there is contentment (amid grief) from knowing that his life's purpose is now fulfilled. Imagine dying before ever making it to the throne.

As I watched the service, I was wondering if Camilla felt glad that she'd missed the middle bit and had children with someone else. Prince William looked burdened and drawn.

MagpiePi · 20/09/2022 07:57

King Charles has inherited something like £370 million, the Duchy of Cornwall brings in about £20million per year (but at least he pays tax on that) and the whole royal family is worth £67 billion or thereabouts.

Gotta have some sympathy for his difficult cuircumstances 🙄

MagpiePi · 20/09/2022 07:58

Do you think he's lying awake at night wondering how he's going to afford to heat his multiple residences this winter?

LobeliaBaggins · 20/09/2022 07:59

Yes. Even odder then that posters on this thread are being urged to donate and give up their one house to the poor.

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 20/09/2022 08:00

LobeliaBaggins · 20/09/2022 07:47

Alternatively, think of it as a man who hasn't worked much and had his entire life to play polo, garden and go on holidays now having to finally do some work at 73.

Yes, and also not actually even having to if he doesn't want to.

PianoHouseBanger · 20/09/2022 08:06

I have compassion for the RF losing their Mother/Grandmother etc, but they all have a choice.
None of them know what hard work is.

ChaToilLeam · 20/09/2022 08:09

I have a lot more sympathy for seniors (and others) who will have to choose between heat and food this winter.

We all experience grief at some point in our lives and nearly everyone goes through the loss of a parent. Charles has never known poverty, or hunger. The increases in the cost of living won’t make any difference to his luxurious existence. His valet puts his toothpaste on his toothbrush every morning, that’s how much this man has done for him!

He isn’t personally responsible for the increasingly inequality in our society but he is part of it. Really, I’d like to see an end to all this forelock tugging and fawning.

StoneofDestiny · 20/09/2022 08:09

NO HE CANT (bow out of it)*

Of course he can. Edward V111 did, and lived his life in millionaire land. (Just think the UK would have had a Nazi sympathiser as King if he had not - the danger of inherited, unearned, positions)

Anne chose not to give her children titles - and off they went to live happily ever after.

Andrew meanwhile has fought tooth and nail for his daughters to be given royal status and privileges 'as their right'- or have we forgotten his demands his daughter had a 'royal ride about' at huge police expense for her wedding.

Andrew, despite his mother throwing (was it £10 or £12 million) to his victim to keep him out of court, still lives unemployed in a royal palace with every whim and fancy attended to. He's another one to remind the UK how close we were to having a man 'involved' in a paedophile ring as King! Another danger of inherited, unearned positions.

derxa · 20/09/2022 08:16

I have a lot more sympathy for seniors (and others) who will have to choose between heat and food this winter. I bet you don't really give them a minute's thought.

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 20/09/2022 08:18

Yes, the arguments that he couldn't abdicate are just fucking odd. Because he could.

People seem to be confusing that with he wouldn't feel like he could or some such, which is vastly different. And honestly, the man's 73, if he does find it to be harder work than he wants or just feels like pissing off into the sunset, it would be easy enough for him to say he was stepping down for health reasons. Given that the prevailing narrative for the past few decades has (correctly or otherwise) been that he's desperate for the gig, he'd have a great cover story already.

fUNNYfACE36 · 20/09/2022 08:26

Whatsthepointofmosquitos · 19/09/2022 21:39

Hundreds of thousands of children in the UK have the life you describe. You don’t have to be monarch to give your children top education health home safety etc.

Hundreds of thousands do mot have the same degree of privilege!!
And as for 'poor Kate' from day 1 st St Andrews she planned a campaign to ensnare Willam.She has openly admitted this.she chose this fir her offspring!

maddening · 20/09/2022 08:27

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 19/09/2022 21:16

Save your tears, he will be fine.

I am a fan of the Royal Family, but Charles doesn't need tears and sympathy. Neither does William or George.

They are all free to abdicate/refuse to be the King.

This totally.

As an aging person he also won't have to organise anything, food, cleaning, the heating, travel. He will be waited on hand and foot from getting dressed, having his bed made, a bath would be drawn for him, having food made for him (and all the buying etc of the food), his travel will be arranged from his door, doctors will come to him. He will not have the hardships of many people his age or older. He won't worry about having a fall while trying to make his own dinner etc. He won't be cold as he can't afford to heat. He won't live in a home he can't clean properly as he is too frail, he won't be at the mercy of carers, his meals won't be tasteless meals on wheels.

fUNNYfACE36 · 20/09/2022 08:27

What was needed yesterday was Louis to lighten the mood!

Blondeshavemorefun · 20/09/2022 08:34

Whatsthepointofmosquitos · 19/09/2022 21:37

I felt so, so sorry for him. He looked like he just needed to be in private for a while so he could cry about his dead mum. Imagine not having the freedom to cry at your mum’s funeral and having cameras in your face for hours. I felt uncomfortable and exploitative watching it.

To those saying “he can abdicate” that would just pass a crappy job on to William, who’s got a very young family. Charles knows what it’s like to grow up the child of a monarch, and has been frank in the past about his difficulties with it. He won’t force his son or grandson into that role until he absolutely has to. So he can’t abdicate can he.

Yes, they’re rich, but I bet they’d give anything to have been born non-royal.

This 100%

Charles looked so sad when the anthem was sung

stiff upper lip came to mind

when I lost my mum 8yrs ago the funeral was so hard

then doing it in front of the world and cameras forever showing your emotions

yes he could retire but then goes to William who needs to live his life

within 20yrs or so William will be king

Comedycook · 20/09/2022 08:35

I genuinely find it incredible that people feel sorry for them. The British public really are gullible

luckylavender · 20/09/2022 08:36

EfficientDynamics · 19/09/2022 21:14

Cutting ribbons and shaking people's hands is'nt that hard tbh

That's not all he does of course.

donquixotedelamancha · 20/09/2022 08:37

Might look on the outside like the Kardashians but it’s happened the opposite way round. The Kardashians did what they want and got money for it. The Royals are given the money upfront and then do what they’re told.

Nonsense. They both do what they want, the reason they choose the attention seeking is to keep up the brand because the brand maintains their lifestyle.

Both groups are only trapped by their own expectations- their fame creates huge influence. Both could retire as 'ordinary' millionaires and avoid all the attention.

The only material differences are that we pay for the RF whether we like it or not and that the RF have legal powers, not just cultural influence.

luckylavender · 20/09/2022 08:37

NCforthis864 · 19/09/2022 21:16

I sometimes wonder how Kate feels knowing George has to serve that life, never being free enough able to do what he might want - be a lawyer, train driver, gardener, whatever. I would find it hard knowing my child had no choice.

She knew that would happen to her eldest child though. She had more of a choice.

passport123 · 20/09/2022 08:37

NCforthis864 · 19/09/2022 21:16

I sometimes wonder how Kate feels knowing George has to serve that life, never being free enough able to do what he might want - be a lawyer, train driver, gardener, whatever. I would find it hard knowing my child had no choice.

She went after William from day 1 at St. Andrews. She wanted this life for her and her kids. No idea why, but it was her free choice.

donquixotedelamancha · 20/09/2022 08:38

That's not all he does of course.

What does he do that constitutes hard work in any normal sense?

ReadyForPumpkins · 20/09/2022 08:39

I would love that job. Then I don’t have to worry about having enough income to retire. It’s hardly the hardest job.

HKM2B · 20/09/2022 08:42

Discovereads · 19/09/2022 21:44

They couldn’t care less about you, so save your sympathy.

They do care imho about us. I read somewhere that they raise some £2bn a year collectively for charities to help the most vulnerable and in need. Don’t see Bezos or Branson or Polvsen or any billionaires doing the same.

Not true. But unusual, yes:

www.bbc.com/news/business-62906853.amp

Am sure Charles could do something similar.

SingularityCat · 20/09/2022 08:44

Tbf it is not exactly a very gruelling job and the compensation is amazing! To put it in perspective: in 2019 Charles undertook almost 550 engagements which sounds an awful lot but he was only undertaking those engagements on 160 days of the year. That's working 3 days a week. Hardly taxing.

ChocolateCakeYum · 20/09/2022 08:48

Meh he can retire (abdicate). In recent times the monarchs of many other countries (Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg and Spain spring to mind) have retired.

I find it hard to worry about a 73 year old man who’s been given all the (unearned) privileges of life and only really has to cut a few ribbons and read the odd speech (which will be written fir him).

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