Will the queens funeral be bigger than Diana's

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Thoughts ?

Diana's funeral was awful; all those wailing people hurling flowers at the hearse.

Diana didn’t touch my heart. I did feel sorry for her as I thought she was treated pretty shabbily by her own brother and family . Where as The Queen has been the only monarch I have know and I am not far off 60. I have memories of my childhood of going to watch the Queen drive past on Derby Day, street parties for the silver jubilee etc so on a personal level the death of her has a lot more significance than the death of Diana.

Obviously the queens' funeral will be bigger, she was queen for 70 years. It's an occasion of state. The public grief at Diana's death was a spontaneous outpouring by the people, not led by the media and not recognised by the RF until an amount of pressure from the public, and apparently Tony Blair. Royalists call the people hysterical for that but I think that shows a fundamental contempt for the people of the country. You can't compare the two events and it's disrespectful to both of them to do that.

I was the same. I remember getting into Dover and stopping at a petrol station and the papers were all with her with pictures of DAF on the front and things like ‘Di says watch out RF you wait and see what I have planned next’ etc and I said to the guy - get rid of those papers she’s dead. The initially news had him dead and her with a broken arm and lots of muttering about it being her fault as she wasn’t wearing a seatbelt etc very surreal
I cried for Diana though - to me she was a lamb to the slaughter of that family. PC proposed to her sister and she said no and Diana was very very innocent when she was trying to console him
over a death and after like 2 hours he proposed and set the wheels in motion.
she never had any mental health support and on honeymoon he ignored her.
she wanted love and a family
he wanted an heir and his camilla

recently you can see what he is like over the pens etc once he rang a bell as he stopped a letter off the table into the waste paper bin for …… him to retrieve it for him. He does what he wants and is pandered to.

State Funeral by definition outranks and is larger than a Ceremonial. It's a bigger event by definition and the Queen was a monarch of quite some stature and magnitude, as well as spending 70 years on the throne. People will become or be interested both in the Queen and the rarity of the occasion/piece of history feeling.

I think a lot of people felt guilty and horrified when Diana died. She left two young children who'd already been through a lot and despite disapproving of her, I don't think anyone actually wanted her dead. Hence the weeping and wailing and quick press reversal.

Tonally

It is a very different situation and vibe

Thanks @mumarewenearlythereyet they really are interesting!

I remember that swift u-turn over Diana, very surreal! and glad im not the only one that remembers it. I couldn’t believe the outpouring afterwards - was it triggered by guilt? Or just a case of mass hysteria ?

*It isn't drivel. Diana's death was unexpected, and millions of people worldwide were truly devastated at the time.

The Queen's funeral will be a more important world event, but won't arouse the same emotions as Diana's did. As the queen was 96, her death was expected to happen at some fairly near point*

I’m another who thought Diana was a self serving attention seeker. The public display of hysterical grief was sickening.

the queen, whatever you think of the monarchy, did a difficult job for a long time, and did it out of duty and respect for the position. Yes she may have been 96 and not unexpected, but I do think she deserves every second of the pomp and circumstance*

*not to mention the sheer amount of money and kudos this will bring into the UK in tourist dollars. BBC will have this syndicated worldwide. We have had every relative abroad phoning to ask us to send memorial coins, mugs etc.

Is it meant to be some sort of competition?

It's really ironic when people say this and then you see the thousands and thousands lining the streets today which proves the contrary

Anyway, without the monarchy our country would be in a much worse off financial state

Neither. People organised themselves to get there because the people (not the press or the establishment) wanted to. The people were very fond of her. Of course, there are individuals, like some on this thread who disliked her to the extent of being spiteful even now, years after her death. The ones you saw laying flowers felt differently. Public grief was probably exacerbated by the RF's perceived coldness, her youth and motherhood.

Diana died at the beginning of the last week of the Summer holidays in most parts of the country. The weather was lovely, most people were probably home from their holiday, so in that week it would be something to do to go into London to lay a cellophane-wrapped bunch of flowers in her memory. The press helped in ramping up the mass hysteria.

The whole Diana thing was weird. I don't understand why her funeral was so big.

The Queen had a State funeral with the whole world attending, as is customary.

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In regard to the u-turn I meant people irl not just the media. Other posters have reminded me it was happening all across the country, not just amongst the people I knew.

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makes sense

The HBO documentary ‘Princess’ covers the about-turn very well. People were saying vile things about her just before she died.

It’s a great piece of film.

What?

of course it will be bigger. Think about it logically. She’s the queen!

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Possibly in the circles you move in.

Have you completely lost touch with reality or not seen the millions filing past Her Majesty’s coffin?

I disagree. I think that the Queen's funeral has been far bigger than Diana's, as it should have been.

The Queen touched plenty of hearts the world over during her reign and that was very clear today.

Diana was lovely, but this constant deification of her 25 years after she died needs to stop.

I agree with this.

And Diana was not generally disliked before her death. All her adult life the media went between Diana the saint and Diana the sinner. It sold papers. It was simply part of that cycle.

The flowers outside the Palace gates were far more for Diana. Personally it seemed an incredible waste of money. But people wanted to show their grief.

There was no national mourning as there has been with the Queen. It was spontaneous and came from the public.