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IvyPlant · 2022-09-17T16:03:46+00:00

Currently got a tradesperson in to do a job. They quoted me a day rate of 8 days work (which I think will take less time than that, but they're the expert...) Anyway, that's not my AIBU. I checked my security footage this week and noticed a woman popped round to my house when I was out and tradesperson was working alone in my house. I can only see her walk past my front door to the back garden gate, she knocks and then the feed ends. She's seen leaving 4 hours later. The next day, same thing, except 3 hours. At present the tradesperson gets here for about 8am and has already stopped working by 3pm. So that's 7 hours of work, fair enough, but 4 (and 3) of them an unknown woman here is (it's not his wife, I did a little social media digging and it's not her). AIBU if I question him about it next week? He still has 4 days left to finish the job next week and I don't l like the fact there's an unknown and univited person in my house when I'm not there, plus, how much work can he really be doing if his "mate" is there for 4 hours.

Hm2020 · 20/09/2022 20:41

I can’t wait to see what happens got my popcorn… this thread is brilliant they are most definitely shagging imo

Nameless3 · 20/09/2022 20:41

Bookworm777 · 20/09/2022 20:36

I think I'm alone on this thread in finding it baffling you are happy to let him continue to sully your property, and film him doing it, rather than sack him. They might actually have recourse against you for filming them without their consent, seeing as you've now placed hidden cameras without their knowledge. Because you're not taking action and just filming them day after day, it could be considered voyeurism.

Exactly this. Why would you let him carry on? Filming him is just a little bit weird.

Blondeshavemorefun · 20/09/2022 20:42

IvyPlant · 20/09/2022 19:51

Is anyone else really pissed off by the multiple duplicate posts on this thread? It's 800+ posts because most of them say the same thing 🙃

Yes.

the ones that say placemarking 😃🙄

they could actually

watch this thread

and click it at the top of thread or bottom
onn3 dots drowning how you view it

TooMuchToDoTooLittleInclination · 20/09/2022 20:47

@IvyPlant

i think you're doing the right thing, waiting until he's finished the (electrical) job.

dome of the comments are hilarious. People who can't be arsed to even read all of your posts, let alone anyone else's! If they did, they'd make slightly less of a show of themselves.

There are many people I'd recognise from their forearms. Not the 'celebrety' though, mind you, if you had his face in the shot and his initials I'd probably not be able to name him either!!😂😂

I seem to be a line voice, I know, but him shagging in the outbuildings wouldn't bother me at all (other than feeling sorry for his wife!!) as long as he didn't charge me for the hours. I'm not squeamish about other people having sex.

pinkyredrose · 20/09/2022 20:48

Nameless3 · 20/09/2022 20:41

Exactly this. Why would you let him carry on? Filming him is just a little bit weird.

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OP is an ex copper, she knows what she's doing. She's not intending to film anything other than parts of her own property. If the guy is then seen on camera doing something unsavoury then that's totally on him.

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IvyPlant · 20/09/2022 20:49

Bookworm777 · 20/09/2022 20:36

I think I'm alone on this thread in finding it baffling you are happy to let him continue to sully your property, and film him doing it, rather than sack him. They might actually have recourse against you for filming them without their consent, seeing as you've now placed hidden cameras without their knowledge. Because you're not taking action and just filming them day after day, it could be considered voyeurism.

You're probably baffled because you're misunderstanding the definition of happy.

I'm not happy with his behaviour. In fact, I actively dislike it (trying not to say fuming because I know it's trite.) But unfortunately, due to the nature of the work and the point in which he is at with it, I have no option to let him continue as I currently have no power to half of my property.

I'm trying not to let other people's opinions and views affect how I'm feeling or my decisions in dealing with the situation, but I realise I sharing my experience online to a public forum, it opens it up to criticism. At the end of the day, I'm the one who has to live in a property without full power if I decide to confront him now. It's not just me living here, I have my little boy and my partner to consider also.

I do have more to share on what I found on the footage today but as I've previously said today, I'm not willing to share it here until after the work is completed in case this thread comes to his attention.

It's all very well saying "if it were me I'd do x, y, z" but it's not you. It's me. And until you're in the position of trying to balance fact with speculation, whilst feeling the need to resort to filming in your own home to try and understand what is going on, you really have no place to tell me what to I should be doing.

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PyongyangKipperbang · 20/09/2022 20:51

If she ends the job early (she cant sack him, she isnt his employer) he can chase her in small claims for work done. As there is no proof of what is going on (he could claim OW is doing work for him at the same time he is there....admin etc). Her best bet is to confront him when its done and bank on the fact that he wont want his wife finding out what has been going on to get the money off for the hours not worked.

But as an aside...how trashy that she is happy to shag on a manky blanket in an outhouse......

Bookworm777 · 20/09/2022 20:53

IvyPlant · 20/09/2022 20:49

You're probably baffled because you're misunderstanding the definition of happy.

I'm not happy with his behaviour. In fact, I actively dislike it (trying not to say fuming because I know it's trite.) But unfortunately, due to the nature of the work and the point in which he is at with it, I have no option to let him continue as I currently have no power to half of my property.

I'm trying not to let other people's opinions and views affect how I'm feeling or my decisions in dealing with the situation, but I realise I sharing my experience online to a public forum, it opens it up to criticism. At the end of the day, I'm the one who has to live in a property without full power if I decide to confront him now. It's not just me living here, I have my little boy and my partner to consider also.

I do have more to share on what I found on the footage today but as I've previously said today, I'm not willing to share it here until after the work is completed in case this thread comes to his attention.

It's all very well saying "if it were me I'd do x, y, z" but it's not you. It's me. And until you're in the position of trying to balance fact with speculation, whilst feeling the need to resort to filming in your own home to try and understand what is going on, you really have no place to tell me what to I should be doing.

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Or you could just confront him and tell him to pack it in and finish the job in a professional manner.

LiesDoNotBecomeUs · 20/09/2022 20:54

OP you are being admirably restrained (here and over the cheating-tradesman).

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IvyPlant · 20/09/2022 20:55

Bookworm777 · 20/09/2022 20:53

Or you could just confront him and tell him to pack it in and finish the job in a professional manner.

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You're placing too much trust in the tradesperson that he would still want to finish the job after I confronted him. I know if it were me, I'd be far too embarrassed to set foot in here again.

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Bookworm777 · 20/09/2022 21:00

PyongyangKipperbang · 20/09/2022 20:51

If she ends the job early (she cant sack him, she isnt his employer) he can chase her in small claims for work done. As there is no proof of what is going on (he could claim OW is doing work for him at the same time he is there....admin etc). Her best bet is to confront him when its done and bank on the fact that he wont want his wife finding out what has been going on to get the money off for the hours not worked.

But as an aside...how trashy that she is happy to shag on a manky blanket in an outhouse......

But OP knows what's going on – he's had the same woman visiting him at her property for hours on end while he's meant to be working. That's enough of a breach of OP's privacy to confront him. Why does she need recorded proof of them having sex as well? He's absolutely in the wrong and is behaving appallingly, yet if I were him and I found out OP had known for days but instead of saying anything had just recorded us, I'd be horrified. Especially if she then tries to knock money off the final fee because of what she's got on her recordings – that's straying v. close to blackmail!

HairyClairey · 20/09/2022 21:02

Hm2020 · 20/09/2022 20:41

I can’t wait to see what happens got my popcorn… this thread is brilliant they are most definitely shagging imo

😆 I'm the same.

Ein · 20/09/2022 21:04

OP I just want to send huge sympathy for the way this guy is abusing your trust and home. I know it’s a kind of a funny story and you’re handling it perfectly but it must still be very upsetting. Hugs.

TooMuchToDoTooLittleInclination · 20/09/2022 21:06

Bookworm777 · 20/09/2022 21:00

But OP knows what's going on – he's had the same woman visiting him at her property for hours on end while he's meant to be working. That's enough of a breach of OP's privacy to confront him. Why does she need recorded proof of them having sex as well? He's absolutely in the wrong and is behaving appallingly, yet if I were him and I found out OP had known for days but instead of saying anything had just recorded us, I'd be horrified. Especially if she then tries to knock money off the final fee because of what she's got on her recordings – that's straying v. close to blackmail!

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How is it blackmail to pay him for the hours he has worked, not for the hours he's been in her property???

be serious!

TooMuchToDoTooLittleInclination · 20/09/2022 21:07

Bookworm777 · 20/09/2022 21:00

But OP knows what's going on – he's had the same woman visiting him at her property for hours on end while he's meant to be working. That's enough of a breach of OP's privacy to confront him. Why does she need recorded proof of them having sex as well? He's absolutely in the wrong and is behaving appallingly, yet if I were him and I found out OP had known for days but instead of saying anything had just recorded us, I'd be horrified. Especially if she then tries to knock money off the final fee because of what she's got on her recordings – that's straying v. close to blackmail!

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How is it blackmail to pay him for the hours he has worked, not for the hours he's been on her property???

be serious!

TooMuchToDoTooLittleInclination · 20/09/2022 21:08

Bookworm777 · 20/09/2022 21:00

But OP knows what's going on – he's had the same woman visiting him at her property for hours on end while he's meant to be working. That's enough of a breach of OP's privacy to confront him. Why does she need recorded proof of them having sex as well? He's absolutely in the wrong and is behaving appallingly, yet if I were him and I found out OP had known for days but instead of saying anything had just recorded us, I'd be horrified. Especially if she then tries to knock money off the final fee because of what she's got on her recordings – that's straying v. close to blackmail!

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How is it blackmail to pay him for the hours he has worked, not for the hours he's been on her property???

be serious!!!

Bookworm777 · 20/09/2022 21:09

PyongyangKipperbang · 20/09/2022 20:51

If she ends the job early (she cant sack him, she isnt his employer) he can chase her in small claims for work done. As there is no proof of what is going on (he could claim OW is doing work for him at the same time he is there....admin etc). Her best bet is to confront him when its done and bank on the fact that he wont want his wife finding out what has been going on to get the money off for the hours not worked.

But as an aside...how trashy that she is happy to shag on a manky blanket in an outhouse......

But OP knows what's going on – he's had the same woman visiting him at her property for hours on end while he's meant to be working. That's enough of a breach of OP's privacy to confront him. Why does she need recorded proof of them having sex as well? He's absolutely in the wrong and is behaving appallingly, yet if I were him and I found out OP had known for days but instead of saying anything had just recorded us, I'd be horrified. Especially if she then tries to knock money off the final fee because of what she's got on her recordings – that's straying v. close to blackmail!

SurpriseSurprise · 20/09/2022 21:09

How many more days is he booked in for? It’s definitely sounding more dodgy

SurpriseSurprise · 20/09/2022 21:09

How many more days is he booked in for? It’s definitely sounding more dodgy

HoofWankingSpangleCunt · 20/09/2022 21:11

Bookworm777 · 20/09/2022 21:00

But OP knows what's going on – he's had the same woman visiting him at her property for hours on end while he's meant to be working. That's enough of a breach of OP's privacy to confront him. Why does she need recorded proof of them having sex as well? He's absolutely in the wrong and is behaving appallingly, yet if I were him and I found out OP had known for days but instead of saying anything had just recorded us, I'd be horrified. Especially if she then tries to knock money off the final fee because of what she's got on her recordings – that's straying v. close to blackmail!

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Don’t be daft.

Op has said why she needs the job completed.

It must be horrendous, I’m feeling all sorts of ugh for you but I hope that this thread has helped a bit.

And for all the naysayers calling out “fibre of my being” etc I rather like the cut of Op’s jib.

I’d rather read a sentence with words with more than one syllable than all the endless OMG Place-marking!!!!!s

LuckyLil · 20/09/2022 21:16

IvyPlant · 20/09/2022 20:49

You're probably baffled because you're misunderstanding the definition of happy.

I'm not happy with his behaviour. In fact, I actively dislike it (trying not to say fuming because I know it's trite.) But unfortunately, due to the nature of the work and the point in which he is at with it, I have no option to let him continue as I currently have no power to half of my property.

I'm trying not to let other people's opinions and views affect how I'm feeling or my decisions in dealing with the situation, but I realise I sharing my experience online to a public forum, it opens it up to criticism. At the end of the day, I'm the one who has to live in a property without full power if I decide to confront him now. It's not just me living here, I have my little boy and my partner to consider also.

I do have more to share on what I found on the footage today but as I've previously said today, I'm not willing to share it here until after the work is completed in case this thread comes to his attention.

It's all very well saying "if it were me I'd do x, y, z" but it's not you. It's me. And until you're in the position of trying to balance fact with speculation, whilst feeling the need to resort to filming in your own home to try and understand what is going on, you really have no place to tell me what to I should be doing.

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I think the point is that if we were in your position practically none of us would be dealing with it the way that you are. That's why people are baffled, not because you're getting one over on us by being a super sleuth. You could have dealt with this instantly on page one long before you had no electricity.

JacquelineCarlyle · 20/09/2022 21:20

Ein · 20/09/2022 21:04

OP I just want to send huge sympathy for the way this guy is abusing your trust and home. I know it’s a kind of a funny story and you’re handling it perfectly but it must still be very upsetting. Hugs.

Well said!

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IvyPlant · 20/09/2022 21:20

Bookworm777 · 20/09/2022 21:00

But OP knows what's going on – he's had the same woman visiting him at her property for hours on end while he's meant to be working. That's enough of a breach of OP's privacy to confront him. Why does she need recorded proof of them having sex as well? He's absolutely in the wrong and is behaving appallingly, yet if I were him and I found out OP had known for days but instead of saying anything had just recorded us, I'd be horrified. Especially if she then tries to knock money off the final fee because of what she's got on her recordings – that's straying v. close to blackmail!

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Why are you talking about me in the third person and like I'm not here? Have you read all of my posts?

Here's a timeline to recap.

I only found out on Thursday evening a woman had been captured entering entered exiting my garden on my driveway camera.

At that point I had no proof she entered my house, only my property boundary.

I bought some cameras for in and around my property which arrived Sunday.

The tradesperson returned for the first time today since Thursday.

I've only managed to watch half the recorded footage this evening (mainly because I'm now wasting so much time responding to the likes of you) and yes, I have a little more information than I did Thursday.

Not once did I suggest he is definitely having sex on my property. Other users did. And I am certainly not wanting or attempting to film him having sex, if that is what he's doing. I am trying to figure out if he is working the number of hours/days he will be undoubtedly be invoicing me for. This means positioning the cameras in places he should be working.

It's unfortunate one of the cameras points towards the downstairs toilet door, but it's not facing directly inside the bathroom or the toilet itself.

Tomorrow is Wednesday. That's day 6 of the 8 days he estimated.

The more that is being recorded, the more I am realising he is not working the hours he has agreed to do, further, he is inviting someone else inside my home during the hours he should be working.

I'm not trying to blackmail him at all. As I've maintained throughout this thread, I'm trying to establish what he is doing inside my house.

And as an aside, if he is having sex at my property, my guess is he's doing it in the outbuildings, where there are NO cameras.

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Bookworm777 · 20/09/2022 21:22

TooMuchToDoTooLittleInclination · 20/09/2022 21:07

How is it blackmail to pay him for the hours he has worked, not for the hours he's been on her property???

be serious!

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My mistake, I misread it as OP going to ask for a lesser fee for the hours he clearly hasn't been working.