To think Prince Harry should now do whatever it takes to cancel his book contract?

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And withdraw his book?

A rapprochement looks possible if he meets the RF halfway.

The worst thing is that he’s clearly not happy with Meghan and yet there is literally no way back for him. He knows Meghan wouldn’t make it easy to leave and the public will be difficult to win back. He’s so stuck and you can see he’s completely miserable.
I, and others on here, would say the complete opposite to that. Huge relief that he has his own little family and is not pulled apart with the MSM tirelessly day after day over here.
Good on them for leaving.

How you can say 'he is clearly not happy', I don't know. Unless you just look at the gutter press with pictures snapped in a millisecond of him not smiling continually.

Just because you want him to be unhappy, doesn't mean he is.

It only his Mother hadn’t died..But many children lose their mothers, in far more impoverished situations that are probably harder to overcome.
William lost his mother , too, of course, but hasn’t founded a career of pain over it.
Harry does appear very emotionally vulnerable , and that makes him easier to manipulate by people out for their own agendas.

But H was younger and more vulnerable and W is the heir so is treated quite differently. I understand C wanted to be seen to slim down the monarchy but I think treating H and W markedly differently was one of the most stupid things he has done in a lifetime of poor choices. H doesn’t have another parent to turn to and he doesn’t have another sibling who is in the same boat as him.

Historically wives and younger sons have generally treated a bit shitly in the aristocracy.

He should not write a book. His Father is the King. It's entirely inappropriate

I don't really understand that couple

Cant Megan go back to acting if they need money

Why shouldn't he write a book @tellmewhyidontlikemondayfunerals

We have the Queen's dresser with a 3 book deal. Is it only fluff books you're happy with? But yeah, the RF have no right of reply! Bollocks.

Charles wanted to slim down the monarchy to William and his family and Harry and his family, not exclude Harry. Harry excluded himself.

He slimmed down the monarchy to the queen, him and Camilla and W&K. Already H was treated differently as the non-heir which was inevitable to some extent but distinction was created that hadn’t existed between him and Andrew for example. Creating division between 2 brothers was not wise.

And then H left.

IrisVersicolor , but that's not really true, is it. It's not that long ago that we had William, Harry and Kate doing events together, obviously relaxed, enjoying what they were doing. The Earl and Countess of Wessex have stepped up to do duties that would have obviously been down to Harry and his wife.

Perhaps Harry's children wouldn't have been so involved, but Harry would definitely have played a major role.

@Roussette I agree that M&H seem perfectly happy with their own little family and Doria. It’s a shame that they’re estranged from so many other family members ( not all, e.g. Eugenie), but they seem fine as a family unit.

Even if Diana had not died they both had a pretty miserable childhood! Punctuated by Diana's eating issue's and emotional problems, caused by her loveless marriage to a man who loved someone else! Rhey spoke of being ferried between them after the divorce the horror of the parents interviews.
There were accusations of affairs on both sides and hideous things written.

They didn't really have a good time prior to the death.
William I am sure suffered a great deal and seemed to have taken on much emotional burden from his mum.
However, Diana said she was concerned about Harry because of the attention William had.
William because of his position will naturally have more power than Harry.
He certainly has far more money now.
Also however William has hugely benefited from the strong family of the Middleton's.
They are strong and close.
Two sisters, a brother and the parents still together.
Again, Harry has not had fhis rock like family to support him..

I agree @PaperTyger . I remember the things Margaret got up to. I remember the hideous self-indulgent interviews of Charles and Diana, plus Penny Junior and her arse licking books etc. Harry and William had a hideous childhood. Catherine's family is a huge asset to William.

Thanks, I knew most of this but it's a great summary and will be sent on to an annoying relative of mine right now

Princess Diana had a very close friend called Julia Samuel, who also happened to be a psychotherapist who has specialised in child bereavement. She remained a close friend to William and Harry after their mother’s death, and is a godmother to Prince George.

I cannot believe that when Harry was having his struggles with losing his mother, and later Meghan’s widely self-publicised feelings of suicide, that it wouldn’t have occurred to Harry to seek the advise of this closely connected and well-regarded woman which would have been very possible without involving royal courtiers to give assistance or guidance - they really were not alone locked in a gilded cage trying to work it all out for themselves against a tidal wave of indifference.

I’m afraid their protestations of victimhood don’t hold up, and I’m sure Julia Samuel (no doubt a very discreet confidante) is probably horrified to hear Harry and Meghan’s cries of being abandoned in their struggles with their mental health. There’s an awful lot of unverified nonsense being leaked to the media out there….

I quite honestly can't get my head around the logic of some people on MN. Harry with the best education money could buy, the love and guidance of his beloved royal family, is being manipulated by a two bit American actress to turn on his loving family....really?? Give me a break. The whole of the royal family are completely dysfunctional. All of the males in the family have had mistresses or lovers. William stood by and watched while Catherine was ripped to pieces by the media for years, but she should be admired for keeping her head down.

If you look up to these people, who are no better than any of us and in my mind much worse than most, I honestly feel very sad for you

Cheers!

The worst thing is that he’s clearly not happy with Meghan and yet there is literally no way back for him. He knows Meghan wouldn’t make it easy to leave and the public will be difficult to win back. He’s so stuck and you can see he’s completely miserable.

I am not a fan of some of the choices H and M have made but a comment like above is farcical. None of us can say whether he is happy with Meghan or not. We don’t know him!

There's generally two ways you get citizenship of the average country. It will depend on the specific country's laws.

First, by descent. E.g. you get British citizenship if at least one of your parents is a British citizen born in Britain.

Second, by naturalisation. E.g. you move to Britain, get residence there, live there for long enough and you apply for citizenship. You generally have to make certain declarations of allegiance.

So the issue for Harry is that too get citizenship under American law he'd have to, I'm guessing, make an effective renunciation of his titles that would be recognized under British law. His kids wouldn't have the same dilemma because they'd be American (and British) citizens by descent.

He is right when he says he’s in a bubble. The times I’ve thought about death as the easier option is when I was in an abusive relationship with nowhere to turn and when I was in debt because of that relationship that was growing and sinking me -alone- every day. I just cannot feel sympathy with a loving couple in a massive mansion. Sorry.

I agree. These people are strangers.
I also find it disturbing that so many people appear to want their marriage to fail.

I find it is very common for dysfunctional families to blame the spouse of anyone who gets away.
The Royal Family are very obviously dysfunctional. Harry's role as a "spare" is a dysfunctional role in itself.

Amen. Always the bloody woman's fault.

Of course it's far easier for families of men to blame a convenient scapegoat, as doing otherwise might force them to confront realities about their own parenting and the state of their relationships with their sons, which for some reason I can't comprehend, they seem very loath to do.

Another interesting parallel. When these sons/DiLs inevitably go NC, the parents always assert that they are blameless. That old analogy of the final straw that breaks the camel's back never seems to occur to them. And they never, ever, admit to knowing 'what it was we did wrong'.

Harry got two A levels, a B in Art (which I think is quite good, he must have some talent there) and a D in Geography (which is not good, perhaps he did no work or perhaps he has some kind of SEN). We have to bear in mind that while he was confident of never having to earn a living, this was Eton where his performance is extraordinarily underachieving. Most probably he was out of his depth academically there, and did very little work, but it could be that he has SEN that actually still affect him today and make it harder for him to self regulate and make decisions.

No royal princes have done well at A levels (didn’t Charles get 2 Es or something?). They can’t all have SEN.

Most likely they are of average intelligence (which isn’t that bright, many people didn’t do A levels at all back then) and have no incentive whatsoever to study as they know they can go wherever they want for uni due to their lineage.

I think William got ABC in his A levels.